What did Fauci’s partner mean by this statement??

[FidelEternal]

You’re just assigning that angle because it helps your mental gymnastics.




Question - do you like the Freedom of Information Act?

Sure. But people are free to use private emails to talk to each other. FOIA is pretty broad. Not all emails are public records.

[Anachron]

Bivalent is two different strains, so technically 2 doses. Walmart has better ventilation than small stores. Yawn.

Keep doubling down on your own stupid statements.

[Anachron]

And let’s not even get into the time he was a science-denying antivaxxer who put his entire community at risk!

Oh right, when he thought he knew better than the experts at the CDC and flat out refused to get the first and second boosters.

Why would he do that, when the Science has clearly shown that they are "safe and effective"?

[Bushmaster]

Sure. But people are free to use private emails to talk to each other. FOIA is pretty broad. Not all emails are public records.

That's kinda the purpose of the FOIA wincel.

No, not all government emails are public records - but they're supposed to be once a FOIA request has been made.

https://www.foia.gov/about.html

But I'm sure you knew that already seeing as how much smarter and more educated you are than the rest of us mere mortals.

Sure. But people are free to use private emails to talk to each other.

Not government employees discussing government and work related matters.

[Anachron]

Sure. But people are free to use private emails to talk to each other. FOIA is pretty broad. Not all emails are public records.

Using private email for professional communication is generally frowned upon, to the point of disciplinaey action and even termination of employment.

You would know this if you had a work related e-mail.

[FidelEternal]

Using private email for professional communication is generally frowned upon, to the point of discipline and even termination.

You would know this if you had a work related e-mail.

Not all professional communication is public record. It also is not frowned upon at all. You would know this if YOU actually ever had a job. LMAO.

[FidelEternal]

That's kinda the purpose of the FOIA wincel.

No, not all government emails are public records - but they're supposed to be once a FOIA request has been made.

https://www.foia.gov/about.html

But I'm sure you knew that already seeing as how much smarter and more educated you are than the rest of us mere mortals.





Not government employees discussing government and work related matters.

You can't just FOIA any government emails lmao. It has to be a matter of public interest and actual state business.

[Anachron]

Not all professional communication is public record. It also is not frowned upon at all. You would know this if YOU actually ever had a job. LMAO.

It is not frowned upon at all?

I mean we all knew you never had a real job... but thanks for confirming.

[Bushmaster]

You can't just FOIA any government emails lmao.

Interdasting...

Apparently Team Fauci never got that memo since they went to so much effort to hide their emails from the FOIA.

Not all professional communication is public record. It also is not frowned upon at all. You would know this if YOU actually ever had a job. LMAO.

Strong words from the homebound drain on society who can't function in life and has never had a job himself.

[FidelEternal]

Interdasting...

Apparently Team Fauci never got that memo since they went to so much effort to hide their emails from the FOIA.

I wouldn't blame them given the types of people with a malign agenda out to smear them.

[Seatard]

Ahh you must be from the land of the alligators.

Not lying to myself at all. I genuinely agree with Fauci and friends. And I think they are right. They are all decent people doing the best they can to protect Americans.

You can be a good scientist, with good intentions, and still not be fit for the job if you can't work within its boundaries.

That was our argument against Trump or anyone with a narrow expertise that they fail to translate to a macro scale.

[Anachron]

I wouldn't blame them given the types of people with a malign agenda out to smear them.

Just LOL @ you slipping up again.

First, it was you having to admit you weren't actually a landlord...

Now, it's that you don't have email in professional capacity.

Just LOL @ academics srs.

[Bushmaster]

I wouldn't blame them given the types of people with a malign agenda out to smear them.

How can you smear people who are as honorable, perfect, above reproach, unquestionable, and pure as "The Science" whose nuts you've been swinging from for almost 5yrs?

[FidelEternal]

You can be a good scientist, with good intentions, and still not be fit for the job if you can't work within its boundaries.

That was our argument against Trump or anyone with a narrow expertise that they fail to translate to a macro scale.

Strange that you never had a problem with Fauci until Fox News told you to have a problem with him.

[FidelEternal]

Just LOL @ you slipping up again.

First, it was you having to admit you weren't actually a landlord...

Now, it's that you don't have email in professional capacity.

Just LOL @ academics srs.

I use my personal email all the time. I just use my work email for internal contacts. I talk to many coworkers via personal email. Maybe it matters for the military or some chit, but nobody else cares. You just use work email if you want something on the record.

[jtaylor2010]

Not all professional communication is public record. It also is not frowned upon at all. You would know this if YOU actually ever had a job. LMAO.

Lolwut?? About the only thing that prevents something falling within the purview of FOIA is if it contains sensitive information(and not subjectively labelled as sensitive, there are clear metrics which define what is and isn’t subject to FOIA).

Double lol at your second statement. Depending on the job(and basically any reasonably high govt. job falls into this category), it is extremely frowned upon and often outright prohibited by the organization’s Acceptable Use Policy with regard to business related matters.

[Bushmaster]

You can't just FOIA any government emails lmao. It has to be a matter of public interest and actual state business.

Official government emails from "The Science" working THE global black plague zombie virus of doom that shut down the entire country isn't state business wincel?

Come on now, you're just getting desperate here lol.

[FidelEternal]

Lolwut?? About the only thing that prevents something falling within the purview of FOIA is if it contains sensitive information(and not subjectively labelled as sensitive, there are clear metrics which define what is and isn’t subject to FOIA).

Double lol at your second statement. Depending on the job(and basically any reasonably high govt. job falls into this category), it is extremely frowned upon and often outright prohibited by the organization’s Acceptable Use Policy with regard to business related matters.

No. It has to be of public interest. It needs to be state business, basically. You can't just go FOIA everyone's emails to stalk some girl or something. Sorry to break it to you.

Yeah we saw how frowned upon it was with the fuking SoS lmao. Nobody gives a chit. JFL if you think William Burns at the CIA puts everything in his work email.

[Bushmaster]

I use my personal email all the time. I just use my work email for internal contacts. I talk to many coworkers via personal email. Maybe it matters for the military or some chit, but nobody else cares. You just use work email if you want something on the record.

You don't have a job and you don't have any coworkers.

[Anachron]

I use my personal email all the time. I just use my work email for internal contacts. I talk to many coworkers via work email. Maybe it matters for the military or some chit, but nobody else cares. You just use work email if you want something on the record.

If you weren't larping, you'd be in for a rude awakening.

But you are, since no one who actually has work email would think that the bolded is valid.

[Bushmaster]

No. It has to be of public interest. It needs to be state business, basically. You can't just go FOIA everyone's emails to stalk some girl or something. Sorry to break it to you.

Yeah we saw how frowned upon it was with the fuking SoS lmao.

Because everybody knows covid was never a matter of public interest lol.

[FidelEternal]

If you weren't larping, you'd be in for a rude awakening.

But you are, since no one who actually has work email would think that the bolded is valid.

If you want to make sure it is known you sent your manager something, then you use the work email.

[Anachron]

You have to kind of feel sorry for wincel, he makes up all this chit about how successful he is...

But because he made it all up, and doesn't actually know anything about what he claims, he keeps exposing himself for the LARP he is.

Just LOL @ fuking up on work emails...

[Seatard]

Strange that you never had a problem with Fauci until Fox News told you to have a problem with him.

LOL Not sure who you are but you have to do better.

I never had a problem with Fauci, he was just one dude with no inherent authority, and I don't buy into speculation and conspiracies.

I don't know for sure what they were doing with emails, but this is basic chit and if true, whether malice or incompetence, it's an easy call to expect consequences.

[Anachron]

If you want to make sure it is known you sent your manager something, then you use the work email.

Brah, just stop, the hole you dug for yourself is not getting any smaller if you keep digging.

[Bushmaster]

Strange that you never had a problem with Fauci until Fox News told you to have a problem with him.

LOL Not sure who you are but you have to do better.

I never had a problem with Fauci, he was just one dude with no inherent authority, and I don't buy into speculation and conspiracies.

I don't know for sure what they were doing with emails, but this is basic chit and if true, whether malice or incompetence, it's an easy call to expect consequences.

It's wincel.

And you're going to think Hell has frozen over but I'm gonna go to bat for and defend the 'tard on this one. You're acting stupid and unhinged AF wincel, because you know damn well he never got his "Fauci hate" from Fox News. Get hold of yourself ffs.

[jtaylor2010]

No. It has to be of public interest. It needs to be state business, basically. You can't just go FOIA everyone's emails to stalk some girl or something. Sorry to break it to you.

Yeah we saw how frowned upon it was with the fuking SoS lmao. Nobody gives a chit. JFL if you think William Burns at the CIA puts everything in his work email.

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/foia/...0and%20control.


Who can I send a FOIA request to?
The FOIA applies to Executive Branch departments, agencies, and offices; federal regulatory agencies; and federal corporations. Congress, the federal courts, and parts of the Executive Office of the President that function solely to advise and assist the President, are NOT subject to the FOIA. Records obtainable under the FOIA include all "agency records" - such as print documents, photographs, videos, maps, e-mail and electronic records - that were created or obtained by a Federal agency and are, at the time the request is filed, in that agency's possession and control. Agencies are required by FOIA to maintain information about how to make a FOIA request, including a handbook, reference guide, indexes, and descriptions of information locator systems. The best place to get this information is on the agencies' websites. Doing research to determine the right office to send the FOIA request to within the right component of the right agency will make your FOIA efforts more productive.

What are the FOIA exemptions?

Exemption (b)(1) - National Security Information
Exemption (b)(2) - Internal Personnel Rules and Practices
- "High" (b)(2) - Substantial internal matters, disclosure would risk circumvention of a legal requirement
- "Low" (b)(2) - Internal matters that are essentially trivial in nature.
Exemption (b)(3) - Information exempt under other laws
Exemption (b)(4) - Confidential Business Information
Exemption (b)(5) - Inter or intra agency communication that is subject to deliberative process, litigation, and other privileges
Exemption (b)(6) - Personal Privacy
Exemption (b)(7) - Law Enforcement Records that implicate one of 6 enumerated concerns
Exemption (b)(8) - Financial Institutions
Exemption (b)(9) - Geological Information






https://www.justice.gov/archive/oip/...exemption6.pdf

To warrant protection under Exemption 6, information must first meet its threshold
requirement; in other words, it must fall within the category of "personnel and medical files
and similar files."8 Once it has been established that information meets the threshold
requirement of Exemption 6, the focus of the inquiry turns to whether disclosure of the records
at issue "would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy."9




http://www.foiadvocates.com/exemptions.html

Documents "related solely to the internal personnel rules and practices of an agency." 5 U.S.C. § 552(b)(2).
The courts have held that there are two separate classes of documents that generally fall within the ambit of exemption 2. First, information relating to personnel rules or internal agency practices is exempt if it can reasonably be described as a trivial administrative matter of no genuine public interest, such as a rule establishing when agency workers can take sick leave. In Department of the Air Force v. Rose, 425 U.S. 352 (1976), the Supreme Court construed Exemption 2's somewhat ambiguous language as protecting internal agency matters so routine or trivial that they could not be "subject to . . . a genuine and significant public interest." Id. at 369. The Court declared that Exemption 2 was intended to relieve agencies of the burden of assembling and providing access to any "matter in which the public could not reasonably be expected to have an interest." Id. at 369-70. Second, an internal administrative manual for instance, might be exempt if its disclosure would risk circumvention of law or agency regulations. In order to fall into this category, the material will normally have to regulate internal agency conduct rather than public behavior.




Sorry bro, try again. There’s a reason agencies are adamant about what is communicated as well as how it is communicated.








But aside from getting rekt like 17 times in the past 30 posts…let’s just all step back and appreciate that you are currently relegated to mental gymnastics defending govt. entities circumventing FOIA. These are the kind of positions people find themselves in when they absolutely refuse to acknowledge they were wrong and will conduct whatever mental gymnastics are required to do so.

[Seatard]

It's wincel.

And you're going to think Hell has frozen over but I'm gonna go to bat for and defend the 'tard on this one. You're acting stupid and unhinged AF wincel, because you know damn well he never got his "Fauci hate" from Fox News. Get hold of yourself ffs.

[Bushmaster]

Ahh you must be from the land of the alligators.

Not lying to myself at all. I genuinely agree with Fauci and friends. And I think they are right. They are all decent people doing the best they can to protect Americans.

By deleting their work related emails, and using gmail in order to hide from FOIA requests lol.

Right.. decent people doing their best for teh America. So noble... definitely not bureaucrat like at all.

[Polaris]