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    The hate that the top 1% get is bs. Liberals only target corporate dudes who work their asses off to build a legacy and provide jobs. They ignore the Celebs who earn just as much. Then again libs don't follow much logic. It's not the cool thing to hate on celebs earning the top 1%


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    Originally Posted by showtime2389 View Post
    The hate that the top 1% get is bs. Liberals only target corporate dudes who work their asses off to build a legacy and provide jobs. They ignore the Celebs who earn just as much. Then again libs don't follow much logic. It's not the cool thing to hate on celebs earning the top 1%


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    Do they despise individuals such as Zuckerberg, and Bill Gates? Do they hate Madonna? Oprah?
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    Originally Posted by NVious View Post
    All wealthy people inadvertently create more wealth in a year that most ever will, even if they are a complete misanthrope and only care about self-benefit, money isn't made saving, but investing. Wealth cannot be multiplied but through wise investing decisions, thus even the most degenerate trust fund baby will have handlers steering the money into productive sectors.

    1.Invest>spend

    2.1% investment and 99% hoarding from a wealthy person>spending 100% from a peasant

    3.Oh you mean like how computers/cellphones or other items that started out extremely expensive became profitable through rich people buying them and thus were improved to a point where we now have more technology at our finger tips than 99.9% of presidents/kings past?

    4.Yeah complaining is bad, unlike what your post does

    5.Yes they are, the world is and always will be comprised of the vital few and the trivial many, don't delude yourself otherwise
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    Also this, I dont think the average person understands how much of an effect the ultra-rich have on advancements in tech, medicine, etc.

    I still lol@the idea of free tuition, as a current student I can see with my own eyes what a massive fcuking waste of money that would be. If you want free tuition go earn it in high school, I'm getting paid to go to school thanks to all my scholarships and I earned every penny of those reimbursement checks I get every semester because I did and continue to run circles around the mediocre student body. If you're outperforming the vast majority of your peers, you get more because you deserve it, that's called life.
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    Who are you to tell someone what they can or can't do with their own money?
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    I suppose thinking of other human beings as inanimate pieces of metal makes it easier to advocate stealing from them.
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    Your sig says "Promoter of Freedom." .....good one.
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    You are free to obey brah
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    LOL. You almost had me, but #5 tipped you over from "delusional entitled liberal" to "obvious troll".

    Solid effort brah, 4/10 trolling.
    i. Currency was built upon abstract principles. It doesn't actually exist.

    ii. Money only governs the behaviors of individuals that value it above themselves and/or have an incomplete understanding of it.

    iii. Unlike you I could survive in a system that is contingent upon bartering, trading, or pure self-reliance (e.g. managing your own property & agriculture w/o external assistance).

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    Originally Posted by mistercollie View Post
    i. Currency was built upon abstract principles. It doesn't actually exist.

    ii. Money only governs the behaviors of individuals that value it above themselves and/or have an incomplete understanding of it.

    iii. Unlike you I could survive in a system that is contingent upon bartering, trading, or pure self-reliance (managing your own property & agriculture w/o external assistance).

    I forgot, you also said that you're mentally ill.
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    the problem is the rich are getting richer and the middle class/poor are getting poorer with less options. clearly thats a legitimate problem. A lot of rich people pretend to care but really dont give a fuack as long as they keep making their millions/billions.
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    Liberal logic...

    Rich (R) = Bad!
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    BRB - He has more money than me, the government should take it away because I'm unable or unwilling to reach that level of success
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    Originally Posted by BrahPlease View Post
    the problem is the rich are getting richer and the middle class/poor are getting poorer with less options. clearly thats a legitimate problem. A lot of rich people pretend to care but really dont give a fuack as long as they keep making their millions/billions.
    Except the middle class today are living better then the middle class from 30-40 years ago.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Except the middle class today are living better then the middle class from 30-40 years ago.
    what do you define as middle class? im mainly republican bro, im not a liberal btw.

    a lot of d-bags pretend to be middle class but clearly arent. if you live in a $500k house and have hundreds of thousands in the bank your not middle class.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    I forgot, you also said that you're mentally ill.
    If you're going to use the term "mentally ill", at least get it right according to the DSM or ICD.

    It's not an illness, but a disorder - a disorder that does not affect thinking or reasoning capabilities, but rather devices that coordinate imagination & memory.

    Dealing with an external imagination & selective memory actually takes a fortitude you couldn't possibly comprehend. You either survive or die (srs, many times by suicide). #geteducated

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    Reading comprehension is a struggle for you isnt it
    Whys that?
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    You can have a very reasonable standard of living if you work hard and you're smart in America, and you will live better than 99% of all human that has ever lived.

    I don't really care if some people have more than me, it doesn't affect me.
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    Originally Posted by BrahPlease View Post
    what do you define as middle class? im mainly republican bro, im not a liberal btw.

    a lot of d-bags pretend to be middle class but clearly arent. if you live in a $500k house and have hundreds of thousands in the bank your not middle class.
    Compare how the "poor" live today vs the 50's.
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    Asking for free education is as rational as asking for a unicorn. There's no such thing as free education, there is only education you pay for yourself and education paid for by others. If they want government paid education, that means they want strangers who have never done anything wrong to anyone to be threatened with the violence of a visit from armed government tax collectors if they refuse to pay their bill.
    Says the person who drives on publicly funded roads and has 24/7 access to emergency services like ems, firefighters, and law enforcement on top of 12 years of publicly funded education. How much did you personally pay for your entire middle school and high school education, textbooks, facilities, and teachers? Like what exact amount was the money you gave?

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    Whys that?
    My guess would be a combination of poor genetics and government education.
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    Says the person who drives on publicly funded roads and has 24/7 access to emergency services like ems, firefighters, and law enforcement on top of 12 years of publicly funded education. How much did you personally pay for your entire middle school and high school education, textbooks, facilities, and teachers? Like what exact amount was the money you gave?

    Go live in a 3rd world country if you're so against taxes or shut up and stop complaining
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Compare how the "poor" live today vs the 50's.
    the same way, i see them everyday. their on the streets begging for money addicted to drugs/alcohol. again, the divide between the rich and the middle class/poor is getting bigger and bigger, you cant deny that.
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    the same way, i see them everyday. their on the streets begging for money addicted to drugs/alcohol. again, the divide between the rich and the middle class/poor is getting bigger and bigger, you cant deny that.
    So the way you see it, the poor equals bums living on the street?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    So the way you see it, the poor equals bums living on the street?
    thats the poorest of the poor bro. the next step up are people living in shelters, then from that people living in government housing and on gov welfare, ect, ect.

    any adult should understand that.
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    Originally Posted by BrahPlease View Post
    thats the poorest of the poor bro. the next step up are people living in shelters, then from that people living in government housing and on gov welfare, ect, ect.

    any adult should understand that.
    So you're talking about different degrees of being poor.
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    the same way, i see them everyday. their on the streets begging for money addicted to drugs/alcohol. again, the divide between the rich and the middle class/poor is getting bigger and bigger, you cant deny that.
    And thats interesting because the government has only gotten bigger year over year.

    Poverty was vanishing before the government began subsidizing it
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    So you're talking about different degrees of being poor.
    your point? tell us how the poor and middle class are thriving and doing so well in 2015/2016...not
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    the same way, i see them everyday. their on the streets begging for money addicted to drugs/alcohol. again, the divide between the rich and the middle class/poor is getting bigger and bigger, you cant deny that.
    I'd rather the middle class richer and the gap between them and the rich larger, than the gap smaller and everyone be poorer.
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    I want a government that takes the money from anyone richer than me - and keeps most of it for itself and it's friends, then spends whatever's left on buying votes to make sure it's re-elected.

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    Originally Posted by BrahPlease View Post
    your point? tell us how the poor and middle class are thriving and doing so well in 2015/2016...not
    To be poor, and own your own vehicle with a flat screen television, and have the newest cell phone...
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    I want a government that takes the money from anyone richer than me - and keeps most of it for itself and it's friends, then spends whatever's left on buying votes to make sure it's re-elected.

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    To be poor, and own your own vehicle with a flat screen television, and have the newest cell phone...
    you can get a working poverty car for like $1k, a flatscreen for $25 at a thrift store, and a decent smartphone for like $40 a month. whats your point tho? owning those things doesnt make you not poor.
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    Originally Posted by smokeater View Post
    I've got no quarrel with the rich folks. I do get frustrated at a middle class that refuses to support others in the middle class and then complains/wonders why when the middle class shrinks.

    We buy our groceries at Wal Mart, instead of the local guy, so we can save 50 cents on bananas. We buy a cordless drill at Home Depot instead of spending $10 more at the mom and pop hardware store. We justify why we feed into the systems that make rich people richer, and wonder why the middle class is disappearing and the poor are growing in numbers.
    In order to compete, businesses that cannot offer the lowest prices are going to have to offer some kind of competitive advantage. If consumers only cared about low prices, stores like Bloomingdale's and Neiman Marcus would not exist.

    For example, I live in New Jersey, where ShopRite is the most popular supermarket chain because it offers the lowest prices. I shop there pretty often, but only after 9pm when it's less crowded. Other than that, I go to Stop & Shop because while the prices are generally higher, they do have a wide selection of products, pretty good sales, and it's consistently less busy than ShopRite, so I can shop in peace. My mom likes buying produce at the local farmer's market because it's better quality than the produce at the supermarkets, even though it's further away from our house. I'm not sure how the prices are there in comparison to ShopRite, but apparently the quality of the produce is enough of an incentive for people to buy from there.
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    i. Currency was built upon abstract principles. It doesn't actually exist.

    ii. Money only governs the behaviors of individuals that value it above themselves and/or have an incomplete understanding of it.

    iii. Unlike you I could survive in a system that is contingent upon bartering, trading, or pure self-reliance (e.g. managing your own property & agriculture w/o external assistance).

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    Originally Posted by BrahPlease View Post
    you can get a working poverty car for like $1k, a flatscreen for $25 at a thrift store, and a decent smartphone for like $40 a month. whats your point tho? owning those things doesnt make you not poor.
    And your solution to get them out of poverty?
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