Having been through a lot is not the point. How you react to what you have been through is.
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05-11-2019, 02:08 PM #61
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05-11-2019, 02:09 PM #62
Brb, Dany went through the world of chit and finally has scraped together what she needed to fulfill her dream. Brb arrives west, listens to her advisors and doesnt overthrow Cersei (which she should have done in retrospect since it would be less losses plus she keeps her dragons and all her friends and army. Esp since people hated Cersei). Brb listen to advisors and get rekt. Brb listen to Jon and Tyrion and lose a dragon. Brb listening to Jon again and letting him mine the glass. Brb listening to Jon again and committing her army to his cause. Brb sacrificing her life to be in the front lines and battle the NK. Brb losing all her dothraki and most of her unsullied and Jorah. Brb listening to all these dip****s again while they (esp Sansa) treat her like absolute dogchit despite everything she's sacrificed for them. Brb getting a little hurt because everyone praised Jon and not her but calmly walking out like a rational human and not going crazy. Brb losing another dragon, brb losing her best friend. Brb begging Jon for just ONE FUKING THING that shouldn't matter to him since he doesnt want the throne.
Brb getting betrayed by Jon anyways who tells the one person who hates her guts and would obviously spread the news.
Brb Tryrion: "CERSEI I KNOW THERE IS SUM GOOD IN U"
Brb Varys: "Dany is a mad queen we must betray and kill her"
Tyrion: "I'm afraid you may be right lul XD"
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05-11-2019, 02:11 PM #63
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05-11-2019, 02:16 PM #64
You went back and edited your post again? Interesting technique. Ill leave you with this and we can agree to disagree if you like. She has a short fuse and she is impulsive. These are horrible triats for someone to rule a kingdom. Especially with the firepower she had or has. I admit i have just never liked her character, so she was always at a loss for me. I guess i wish she were a little more like Brienne who I absolutely think is awesome
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05-11-2019, 02:18 PM #65
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05-11-2019, 02:24 PM #68“We have these — these talking heads who have gotten the vaccine and are telling other people not to get the vaccine,” Gov. Spencer Cox (R) said.
“That kind of stuff is just, it’s ridiculous. It’s dangerous, it’s damaging, and it’s killing people. I mean, it’s literally killing their supporters. And that makes no sense to me.”
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05-11-2019, 02:26 PM #69
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05-11-2019, 03:48 PM #73
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05-11-2019, 04:10 PM #74
How is it a cop out? The First Men destroyed the Children of The Forest and led them to create White Walkers. No one on the throne has learned anything or used their power to help humanity. They all deserve to die, except Jon. He's the only noble character on the show and was resurrected for a reason.
They could have had NK kill the majority of characters then face off with Jon, Dany, and Arya at Kings Landing.
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05-11-2019, 04:11 PM #75
Why not?
If you consider it’s a drama —that’s a valid journey arch as an excuse for the characters to do things.
Them doing things and how they do it is the point of this entertainment genre.
Once again the comic book mentality ruleset is conflicting with the theater drama mindset.
If this was a comic book it would be a crappy reasoning arc but GoT isn’t held to those standards because unlike a drama, a comic book doesn’t have true content in between the skeleton so the Skelton has to be a good one, but GoT is about the meat on it so the skeleton doesn’t matter.
Make sense?
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05-11-2019, 04:19 PM #76
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05-11-2019, 04:26 PM #77
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doesnt make any sense, srs. If the purpose was to even the playing field between Dany and Cersei, they could have just done this:
-Script a smaller army for Dany when she left Essos
-Not have WW's at all
-Keep Cersei hiring the golden company after the Loot Train defeat
-Have enough time for a Season 3-tier plot with the war for the Iron Throne, with all the espionage, planning, military tactics, and drama that made the show amazing
In other words - it was a round-about way to get somewhere that they could have just established in the Season 6 finale. The WW's were a waste because they didn't even deliver on their build up.ωσяℓ∂ тяανєℓєя ȼяєω
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05-11-2019, 04:28 PM #78
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05-11-2019, 04:33 PM #80
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I don't think this particular case is bad writing tbh. Jaime by far has had the biggest redemption arc in the series, and it suddenly appeared it was being thrown to the wind. If he does go back to kill Cersei -- which I also agree is the most likely scenario -- it'll cement his redemption in a pretty satisfying way
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05-11-2019, 04:36 PM #81
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I never took that scene as him wanting to go back to Cersei. I think it's certain he's going to try and stop her and possibly kill her.
Why else would he be prompted after hearing about Cersei's victory on killing Rhaegal? He's terrified she might actually win and wants to protect what he sees are good people. Redemption accomplished.ωσяℓ∂ тяανєℓєя ȼяєω
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05-11-2019, 04:36 PM #82
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05-11-2019, 04:37 PM #83
It's bad writing because the writers aren't even giving us an ounce of doubt that that's what he's going to do. Had Brienne gotten killed during the battle for instance. Then it would show that he really had nothing to live for anymore outside of Cersei. So him going back to King's Landing would at least show some doubt in his story arc. But the writers had to just force the chick flick moment with him and Brienne.
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Eh well the dialogue itself definitely suggests he's going there to defend Cersei. And that's because Daenarys -- after Rhaegal's death -- is now more inclined to raze the city with Drogon whereas previously there was still the possibility of a somewhat-more diplomatic solution. Brienne is concerned for Jaime specifically because it's now far more likely the city will now burn
Whether or not the scene was convincing in that regard, I'd chalk it up to compressed timelines. But I wouldn't say the writing behind it is bad in concept, it's just hampered by the logistics of the Season 8 execution
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05-11-2019, 05:06 PM #86
They should've made the NK the final boss. Like..
- They lose the battle at winterfell vs the NK... then
- they all have to fall back to kings landing
- Someone somehow softens Cerseis heart and she agrees to fight the NK along Jon
- Cersei dies anyway in the heat of battle
- Badass NK fight at kings landing..
This would be a bit unlikely given cerseis, but interesting nonetheless
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05-11-2019, 05:07 PM #87
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The "she's hateful....so am I" part is harder to explain. But maybe he's making some futile attempt to save her knowing that he'll fail and it will be the end of one of them.
But the way he was told about Rhaegal made it sound like Dany was in serious trouble of losing. IDK if Jaime would reasonably suspect Dany to go Kamikaze on KL in response - he doesn't know her at all.
Yup that would have been both the more logical and more entertaining option.
Logically, Dany would have just annihilated KL after making it to Westeros, then the real war would begin. But I guess Jon's fear of the NK is the reason she didn't.ωσяℓ∂ тяανєℓєя ȼяєω
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05-11-2019, 05:16 PM #88
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True true. I got the impression that outwardly he was going to help Cersei, but I can see it from both perspectives for sure. I obviously think there has been a chitton of bad writing in these last couple D&D episodes, but that didn't immediately strike me as one of those cases
Anyways I'm pretty interested to see how things go down tomorrow night, we'll see if there's any shred of redemption for D&D's story arc
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05-11-2019, 05:20 PM #89
That is part of bad writing though. It's the writers who decided to make this the last season. It's the writers who decided to condense the season into 6 long episodes. Does anybody really believe Jaime is going back to KL to crawl back to Cersei?
I'll tell you how bad the writers are. Even when they do something good, they are still able to ruin it with bad decisions. We all knew that Jaime and Brienne has had a relationship that was full of sexual tension, etc. But it never had to be consummated with sex. Their relationship could have been just perceived as one where they both really loved each other, with it being consummated when Jaime knighted Brienne.
Brienne being knighted could have been her symbol of losing her virginity. I mean, Jaime used a sword to do it. That would have been a perfect way to end their relationship. But no, the writers had to add the romcom aspect of it to please the wine-drinking cat ladies who watch the show.
Brienne dying would have been more beneficial for his story arc.
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05-11-2019, 05:27 PM #90
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