RH Chat 17: *SoClose* I'll be calling in a year...

[Kaptn Krunch]

mandatory top of page pic then bro...

Lion has melanism...A recessive trait where all the skin and fur are completely black. It's the opposite of albinism.

[Stix14]

that is one sexy beast bro...real animal or painted?

[nvrstopworking]

Pretty much. I'm gonna get hated on either way.
Either I don't do my job, or I do it too much. No such thing as a middle ground.

Eh. Based on what I've seen so far you seem to be pretty fair and you don't get off on being a douchenozzle. I've seen some other mods around in the past that have just made me shake me head.

And what do you mean "being a mod is a thankless job"? Look at your reps!!! Doesn't that make it worth it???

LMFAO

In all seriousness though, VA is just doing his job. I've been a mod of other forums, and I know what it's like to have to ban people/babysit other forums/etc.

Call me a WK if you'd like (no wk!); I'm just empathising with him, is all.

Fuggin' WK.

[spectre86]

Totally know that feel breh... Mine's 5'0"

I know dat feel... Best fawking thing about dating spinners!

YES, I ****ing love that...or when it takes both of their hands to grab your whole sack (feels so nice in the summertime)...hnnng

ahahaha fawk yeah. makes me feel like porn star.

5'2 checking in ...

use to hands plz and mouth. lots and lots of drool....

[Kaptn Krunch]

that is one sexy beast bro...real animal or painted?

100% real. I edited the post to add more info about the lion.

[nvrstopworking]

You done Deads lately Spec? My mind is still shattered that that lift is your lowest one lol....

[Kaptn Krunch]

100% real. I edited the post to add more info about the lion.

I lied. Upon further research, the pic is photoshopped. There are no lions that suffer from melanism.

[Ecnewyx]

What is unclear about the copyright stuff? Maybe I can elaborate.

The same thing that is unclear about whether something is a copyright violation anywhere? Usual defenses to copyright violations.

"Forum" means an area, site or feature offered as part of any Site that offers the opportunity for users to Distribute Submissions for viewing by one or more Site users, including a chat area, message board, instant messaging, mobile messaging, social community environment, profile page, conversation page, blog, e-mail function (including electronic greeting cards and send-a-friend e-mails).

PMs are lumped into there. Therefore it meets the ToS definition of Forum.
And then it even says "features offered therein" in which you can consider PMs to be an offered feature of the forum.
So either way, no expectation of privacy, and no guarantee of security.

This is a moot point but I'm always up for conversation.

1. PMs aren't lumped in there expressly. I notice that "private messages" are not expressly on that list. "[I]nstant messaging" is, whatever that is.

2. You can make the argument that PMs should be included as "a feature offered as part of any Site that offers the opportunity for users to . . ."

3. There is a difference between disclaiming responsibility for accidental "leaks" (i.e. no guarantee of security) and affirmatively reading messages and communications. The rest of that rule supports the reading as the former. For example, the ToS does say: "we cannot guarantee the security of any information", "you make such disclosures at your own risk", "we have no duty to monitor any Forum", "you . . . remain solely responsible for the Submissions", etc. It does not say, "we can monitor your messages", "we will investigate your messages". In fact, it suggests the opposite.

4. While this is not a constitutional matter, as you correctly pointed out, when the Constitution has been applied the courts have drawn a distinction when the party [i.e. government or public school] expressly stated that the user should not expect privacy because messages can be searched upon certain conditions/reasonable suspicion, etc., or that communications can be monitored. The BB.com ToS mentions neither. Again, because the ToS is written to protect BB.com from accidental disclosure, not to allow BB.com to read private messages.

Cliffs:

BB.com ToS is a shield, not a sword. And since (according to you) the mods cannot read private messages, it would appear that the BB.com ToS agrees with me.

Also: I'm not arguing with anyone. I never argue.

Were there nothing going on wrong, I probably woulnd't have reason to be directed here, 'nom sayin?

Hmm... that makes me curious how you were directed here in the first place.

Since, presumably, if I send a PM of myself naked to... let's say, you and you appreciate it (as you would be believe me ) there would be no reason for anyone to report either myself or you since, while the rule is being broken, no one is affected by it.

No homo notwithstanding the winky face.

[Tiffany Wantsmore]

That lion was all over ********. Shame its not real because its really beautiful.

use to hands plz and mouth. lots and lots of drool....

[VAPump]

Get off your high horse/10


Later guys.

And who exactly are you?

[Stix14]

I lied. Upon further research, the pic is photoshopped. There are no lions that suffer from melanism.

It's ok, I can relate, sometimes I feel like the black lion...like I'm not real...

emoblog/10

[spectre86]

You done Deads lately Spec? My mind is still shattered that that lift is your lowest one lol....

no i havent. not in months. ill do shurgs once and awhile with 450-500 lbs using straps. but i have horrible grip strength I can do seated rows with 300 lbs for 12-15 reps for 5 sets. (clean not sloppy), so it not like i dont have decent back strength, i just can keep a tight grip on the bar.

been focusing on my legs pretty hard. quads are starting to really make progress. doing 405 for a 5x5. ATG. like my ass is damn near on my heels.

[Exane]

Eh. Based on what I've seen so far you seem to be pretty fair and you don't get off on being a douchenozzle. I've seen some other mods around in the past that have just made me shake me head.

And what do you mean "being a mod is a thankless job"? Look at your reps!!! Doesn't that make it worth it???

I've been a mod before, its not all that its cracked up to be. You see a lot of annoyances, mostly people reporting retarded **** with the most whiny comments, and PM's of people bitching and crying about anything and everything, every action you take or do results in people pissed off and calling for your head. It really is a thankless job, I cant imagine trying to manage the beast that is the misc. Reps alone would not be worth it to myself.

[VAPump]

The same thing that is unclear about whether something is a copyright violation anywhere? Usual defenses to copyright violations.



This is a moot point but I'm always up for conversation.

1. PMs aren't lumped in there expressly. I notice that "private messages" are not expressly on that list. "[I]nstant messaging" is, whatever that is.

2. You can make the argument that PMs should be included as "a feature offered as part of any Site that offers the opportunity for users to . . ."

3. There is a difference between disclaiming responsibility for accidental "leaks" (i.e. no guarantee of security) and affirmatively reading messages and communications. The rest of that rule supports the reading as the former. For example, the ToS does say: "we cannot guarantee the security of any information", "you make such disclosures at your own risk", "we have no duty to monitor any Forum", "you . . . remain solely responsible for the Submissions", etc. It does not say, "we can monitor your messages", "we will investigate your messages". In fact, it suggests the opposite.

4. While this is not a constitutional matter, as you correctly pointed out, when the Constitution has been applied the courts have drawn a distinction when the party [i.e. government or public school] expressly stated that the user should not expect privacy because messages can be searched upon certain conditions/reasonable suspicion, etc., or that communications can be monitored. The BB.com ToS mentions neither. Again, because the ToS is written to protect BB.com from accidental disclosure, not to allow BB.com to read private messages.

Cliffs:

BB.com ToS is a shield, not a sword. And since (according to you) the mods cannot read private messages, it would appear that the BB.com ToS agrees with me.

Also: I'm not arguing with anyone. I never argue.



Hmm... that makes me curious how you were directed here in the first place.

Since, presumably, if I send a PM of myself naked to... let's say, you and you appreciate it (as you would be believe me ) there would be no reason for anyone to report either myself or you since, while the rule is being broken, no one is affected by it.

No homo notwithstanding the winky face.

I'm not trying to be an ass, but honestly I'm not even going to read all this.

Whatever it is, I can already guarantee you are wrong. bb.com retains all sorts of smart legal people to write this crap up, and I can assure you it's all been put to the test many times.

[nvrstopworking]

no i havent. not in months. ill do shurgs once and awhile with 450-500 lbs using straps. but i have horrible grip strength I can do seated rows with 300 lbs for 12-15 reps for 5 sets. (clean not sloppy), so it not like i dont have decent back strength, i just can keep a tight grip on the bar.

been focusing on my legs pretty hard. quads are starting to really make progress. doing 405 for a 5x5. ATG. like my ass is damn near on my heels.

Why not just do Deads with straps?

[Ecnewyx]

Reps alone would not be worth it to myself.

I would sell reps for money though. And favors.

I'm not trying to be an ass, but honestly I'm not even going to read all this.

Whatever it is, I can already guarantee you are wrong. bb.com retains all sorts of smart legal people to write this crap up, and I can assure you it's all been put to the test many times.

I can assure you with 100% certainty that it hasn't. Or if it has, BB.com lost.

Unless you lied about not being able to read private messages.

You aren't being an ass. But if you don't want to read it, you should take my word for it. If you refuse to take my word for it, you should read it.

And again, I'm 100% sure that it has never been put to the test.

[nvrstopworking]

I've been a mod before, its not all that its cracked up to be. You see a lot of annoyances, mostly people reporting retarded **** with the most whiny comments, and PM's of people bitching and crying about anything and everything, every action you take or do results in people pissed off and calling for you head. It really is a thankless job, I cant imagine trying to manage the beast that is the misc. Reps alone would not be worth it to myself.

Ha! I was kidding dude.... I know that it sucks for the most part... esp. these days with so many incredibly stupid people and shyt-disturbers running around.

EDIT: NoFXN's banned too? Oh the irony lol...

in b4 I'm banned.

[Ecnewyx]

Ha! I was kidding dude.... I know that it sucks for the most part... esp. these days with so many incredibly stupid people and shyt-disturbers running around.

People are dumb. That's why I'd never be in law enforcement. Can't deal with stupid people or ****-starters.

[VAPump]

I would sell reps for money though. And favors.



I can assure you with 100% certainty that it hasn't. Or if it has, BB.com lost.

Unless you lied about not being able to read private messages.

You aren't being an ass. But if you don't want to read it, you should take my word for it. If you refuse to take my word for it, you should read it.

And again, I'm 100% sure that it has never been put to the test.

Oh ok, you must have access to the mod forum where we are informed of such things. Good to go.

[nvrstopworking]

People are dumb. That's why I'd never be in law enforcement. Can't deal with stupid people or ****-starters.

Seriously. I have mad respect for cops (the ones that aren't raging douche canoes) and teachers because of this.

I'm pretty sure that I'd kill someone within a week if I were in either of those jobs lol.

[Ecnewyx]

Oh ok, you must have access to the mod forum where we are informed of such things. Good to go.

No, but I do have access to an abundance of common sense.

Common sense tells me that if mods can't read private messages, the issue of whether or not the ToS allows mods to read private messages has never come up. Or if it has come up, it came down against mods being able to do so.

Can you find a flaw in that reasoning? Hint: There isn't one. I'm not 100% certain, so I'll backtrack on that one, but that at least gets me to 99%.

I'm equally certain that the Supreme Court has has never heard a case on whether the government should be permitted to conduct research on rocks playing the electric violin. For the same reason.

Mod forum?

I suppose if you tell me that in your "mod forum" someone told you that "yeah the ToS lets mods read private messages BUT mods can't actually do it because that's not a feature" I'll take your word for it. That's a joke, obviously. We both know your mod forum says nothing of the sort.

[digitalbath11]

explains a lot... digi no like me...

Not true!!! <\3

Sometimes I'm just left speechless.

You know... Like the ending scene in Jerry McGuire... "...you had me at hello"

/pink knight

[digitalbath11]

No, but I do have access to an abundance of common sense.

1+1= 17.3

I kid, I kid.

[Ecnewyx]

1+1= 17.3

I kid, I kid.

I was warned that the one I loved best would betray me most.

But I never believed...

[digitalbath11]

that movie ends with them getting married (NO I havent seen it..just know TC gets all sappy) soooo is this a proposal?

its ok I wuz just messin...

Suurrreee you havent seen it.

I was warned that the one I loved best would betray me most.

But I never believed...

Vag check.... Positive
I am a wimminz, wut can I say..


But srlsy, I'm on your side... Even if it gets us both banned... <3

[Ecnewyx]

Vag check.... Positive
I am a wimminz, wut can I say..

lulz. I knew all women were... awesome. That's what I was going for the whole time. "Awesome". Nothing to do with mod presence in this thread. I was thinking "awesome" so I said "awesome".

(Men are awesome too, no misandry, I love you all, no harassment or stalking).

But srlsy, I'm on your side... Even if it gets us both banned... <3

I don't have a side.

Just pointing out as part of a separate and unrelated discussion that the BB.com ToS is silent on the issue of mods reading private messages because, as VAPump was kind enough to point out, mods cannot read private messages. Which is a good thing. Because they're private.

/shrug

Mostly because I like to read myself type. I imagine Liam Neeson speaking my words. Gives it that extra punch.

[Aryan7]

Dat feel when the helicopter home gets cancelled

[nvrstopworking]

Dat feel when the helicopter home gets cancelled

One more reason I'm not crazy about offshore stuff lol.

[Tiffany Wantsmore]

Didn't you say there were helicopters every 10 minutes or something?

[Ecnewyx]

Seriously. I have mad respect for cops (the ones that aren't raging douche canoes) and teachers because of this.

I'm pretty sure that I'd kill someone within a week if I were in either of those jobs lol.

Yeap.