2017 Orders Part 2: Robs taste buds still broken and DMAAs future in question.

[Misctake7]

Hey Rob! I have something moist for you. And it isn't cake



If I have a day off of work, I'll take a slow stimmed pre upon waking and that's when it's cleaning mode. Yea yea I know, I'll make an excellent stay at home husband some day



Back to my upper/lower program on Tuesday. After my light lifting today, focus and motivation is down in the dumps. Took Crimson which is VERY strong and always had good and strong focus and workouts off it. Lots of real life hitting lately and the gym hasn't quite been my typical escape for the last couple weeks. I guess I'll need a big refeed Monday night in hopes my body is ready for heavy lifting again. Just gotta get my head out of my ass and refocus I guess.

[VO2Maxima]

It's complicated and you will very rarely actually perform the big 3 lifts themselves, but clearly works when done right

Complicated is one way to describe it lol. I doubt I would have attempted it on my own if I didn't have a coach who was super familiar with that style of training...I was doing a much simpler DUP when I was on my own. I'm not familiar enough with the relationship between different band tensions/chain weights/bar types/lift variations vs weak points of lift to program it effectively for myself. I'm sure I'd still get stronger programming it myself, but not enough to give it an advantage over a simpler program. Getting better at accessory work selection, but even then that's usually after my coach is like "this is what needs to be improved, work on this."

Dave Tate wrote my programming for 18 months [srs].

If you have questions about some concepts I may be able to at least parrot some knowledge so feel free to PM me.

General training principles aren't incredibly complicated but peaking for a meet certainly can be.

^Good guy to ask. He's been running it longer than I have and probably much more familiar with how to program it effectively.

[SOH11]

So my ankle/foot is swollen. A lot. Doesn't hurt at all. Zero pain. Go in for my shift today, Sgt looks at my leg and immediately sends me to the hospital to get it looked at.


Anddddd infected.

da fuq?!

Also got a notify that when I go back to patrol in two weeks I am moved to 3rds. So now I have to find a new gym (agreement I have with the owner is that I wouldn't come in during peak hours and I lift at 5 PM on 3rds).

fuuuuuuu

[Rob1882]

Dave Tate wrote my programming for 18 months [srs].

If you have questions about some concepts I may be able to at least parrot some knowledge so feel free to PM me.

General training principles aren't incredibly complicated but peaking for a meet certainly can be.

Dave is legendary status that pizzasistance

Hey Rob! I have something moist for you. And it isn't cake

So is this a go on "Moistcake7 & Meatie in the Mornings"?

So my ankle/foot is swollen. A lot. Doesn't hurt at all. Zero pain. Go in for my shift today, Sgt looks at my leg and immediately sends me to the hospital to get it looked at.


Anddddd infected.

da fuq?!

Also got a notify that when I go back to patrol in two weeks I am moved to 3rds. So now I have to find a new gym (agreement I have with the owner is that I wouldn't come in during peak hours and I lift at 5 PM on 3rds).

fuuuuuuu

O man that is terrible :X I hope that heals up quickly. What kind of time frame you looking at just a few days or?

[UncleWade]

^Good guy to ask. He's been running it longer than I have and probably much more familiar with how to program it effectively.

Oh please, working with who you work with I am sure you're the real conjugate encyclopedia around here.

I have jumped off the conjugate train since about January - making the transition from full-time MBA to post-grad corporate life has made 5thSet a bit more kind to my schedule and the progress has been stellar so far.

Dave is legendary status that pizzasistance

The first time I heard about that diet while in the office, I nearly had a heart attach. Awesome and ridiculous does not even begin to describe it.

[VO2Maxima]

Oh please, working with who you work with I am sure you're the real conjugate encyclopedia around here.

I have jumped off the conjugate train since about January - making the transition from full-time MBA to post-grad corporate life has made 5thSet a bit more kind to my schedule and the progress has been stellar so far.

Pfft you worked with Dave Tate, you know your stuff.

How's 5th Set?? I'm assuming must be good, there's a 60-something woman who works with Swede and has me by about 60lbs lol. She's super impressive, last I checked she was current top 5 in the nation for 132.

[superhuman67]

So my ankle/foot is swollen. A lot. Doesn't hurt at all. Zero pain. Go in for my shift today, Sgt looks at my leg and immediately sends me to the hospital to get it looked at.


Anddddd infected.

da fuq?!

Also got a notify that when I go back to patrol in two weeks I am moved to 3rds. So now I have to find a new gym (agreement I have with the owner is that I wouldn't come in during peak hours and I lift at 5 PM on 3rds).

fuuuuuuu

That ankle must of looked bad for your Sgt. to send you to the hospital, make sure you take of that
so it doesn't get any worse.

[Misctake7]

So is this a go on "Moistcake7 & Meatie in the Mornings"?

Cat owners beware

So my ankle/foot is swollen. A lot. Doesn't hurt at all. Zero pain. Go in for my shift today, Sgt looks at my leg and immediately sends me to the hospital to get it looked at.


Anddddd infected.

da fuq?!

Also got a notify that when I go back to patrol in two weeks I am moved to 3rds. So now I have to find a new gym (agreement I have with the owner is that I wouldn't come in during peak hours and I lift at 5 PM on 3rds).

fuuuuuuu

Damn man! Maybe somebody should have listened and taken a few days off of biking and lifting! Jk, I'm guessing it's not something you could really help.

Hope it recovers soon. I had the same issue of an infection in my calf when I didn't even get cut or anything.

[UncleWade]

Pfft you worked with Dave Tate, you know your stuff.

How's 5th Set?? I'm assuming must be good, there's a 60-something woman who works with Swede and has me by about 60lbs lol. She's super impressive, last I checked she was current top 5 in the nation for 132.

I'll tell you about 5thSet if you tell me about Re1gn. Just about ready to pull the trigger and need one last little push.

[BenBlue]

Dave Tate wrote my programming for 18 months [srs].

If you have questions about some concepts I may be able to at least parrot some knowledge so feel free to PM me.

General training principles aren't incredibly complicated but peaking for a meet certainly can be.

Very cool, thanks man! I'll likely message you soon, gonna be choosing a first meet over the next few weeks.

[BenBlue]

Hey Rob! I have something moist for you. And it isn't cake



If I have a day off of work, I'll take a slow stimmed pre upon waking and that's when it's cleaning mode. Yea yea I know, I'll make an excellent stay at home husband some day



Back to my upper/lower program on Tuesday. After my light lifting today, focus and motivation is down in the dumps. Took Crimson which is VERY strong and always had good and strong focus and workouts off it. Lots of real life hitting lately and the gym hasn't quite been my typical escape for the last couple weeks. I guess I'll need a big refeed Monday night in hopes my body is ready for heavy lifting again. Just gotta get my head out of my ass and refocus I guess.

Hope things start easing up for you bro.

So my ankle/foot is swollen. A lot. Doesn't hurt at all. Zero pain. Go in for my shift today, Sgt looks at my leg and immediately sends me to the hospital to get it looked at.


Anddddd infected.

da fuq?!

Also got a notify that when I go back to patrol in two weeks I am moved to 3rds. So now I have to find a new gym (agreement I have with the owner is that I wouldn't come in during peak hours and I lift at 5 PM on 3rds).

fuuuuuuu

Damn, that ****in sucks. Sorry to hear this dude, hope it heels up quickly.

[gbullock32]

So my ankle/foot is swollen. A lot. Doesn't hurt at all. Zero pain. Go in for my shift today, Sgt looks at my leg and immediately sends me to the hospital to get it looked at.


Anddddd infected.

da fuq?!

Also got a notify that when I go back to patrol in two weeks I am moved to 3rds. So now I have to find a new gym (agreement I have with the owner is that I wouldn't come in during peak hours and I lift at 5 PM on 3rds).

fuuuuuuu

Sorry to hear that, hope it gets better soon.

[82ndAirborne]

So my ankle/foot is swollen. A lot. Doesn't hurt at all. Zero pain. Go in for my shift today, Sgt looks at my leg and immediately sends me to the hospital to get it looked at.


Anddddd infected.

da fuq?!

Also got a notify that when I go back to patrol in two weeks I am moved to 3rds. So now I have to find a new gym (agreement I have with the owner is that I wouldn't come in during peak hours and I lift at 5 PM on 3rds).

fuuuuuuu

good luck to you on the heal up brother...how come you are not supposed to be in the gym during peak hours? Too much of a beast srs?

[SOH11]

Thanks for all the healthy wishes guys! Whatever new antibiotics they gave me, they are 100% working. Woke up this morning and my foot/ankle looks 90% back to normal. The past two days it looked like I had a club foot

good luck to you on the heal up brother...how come you are not supposed to be in the gym during peak hours? Too much of a beast srs?

The place I lift at, which is awesome, is a personal training facility geared towards clients and group classes. I just wanted access to the facility. So the agreement I had with the owner was that I could get a door code and use the facility whenever except during peak hours (4 pm - 7 pm) and Saturday mornings. With my previous hours of 1 pm - 11 pm and current hours of 9 am - 7 pm, this was perfect. On 3rds...not gonna work. Back to the commercial gym I go.

Supp question: if I put pres in the freezer, will I be able to scoop from them as normal and put them back in the freezer? Or do I have to let them thaw first or something?

[Blainex]

Thanks for all the healthy wishes guys! Whatever new antibiotics they gave me, they are 100% working. Woke up this morning and my foot/ankle looks 90% back to normal. The past two days it looked like I had a club foot



The place I lift at, which is awesome, is a personal training facility geared towards clients and group classes. I just wanted access to the facility. So the agreement I had with the owner was that I could get a door code and use the facility whenever except during peak hours (4 pm - 7 pm) and Saturday mornings. With my previous hours of 1 pm - 11 pm and current hours of 9 am - 7 pm, this was perfect. On 3rds...not gonna work. Back to the commercial gym I go.

Supp question: if I put pres in the freezer, will I be able to scoop from them as normal and put them back in the freezer? Or do I have to let them thaw first or something?

You should be able to just scoop them as normal, would recommend a vigorous shake of the container first

[SOH11]

You should be able to just scoop them as normal, would recommend a vigorous shake of the container first

Thanks my man!

Another pre question...I've always worked out in the AM. For you guys that take pres and work out in the evening, how soon are you able to fall asleep?

[Farley1324]

Thanks my man!

Another pre question...I've always worked out in the AM. For you guys that take pres and work out in the evening, how soon are you able to fall asleep?

Good luck

[OT2000]

Thanks my man!

Another pre question...I've always worked out in the AM. For you guys that take pres and work out in the evening, how soon are you able to fall asleep?

I have never had an issue falling asleep even after stim pwo but many people do.

Good luck on healing up

[chemo29]

I have never had an issue falling asleep even after stim pwo but many people do.

Good luck on healing up

totally opposite here

any stims after 3pm and no sleep before 1-2am for me
(which doesn't mean i have energy till 2am, i just can't fall asleep)

[customshopkv1]

I take stim pwo in the AM and non stim pwo in the evenings.

[TrainerTone]

Thanks my man!

Another pre question...I've always worked out in the AM. For you guys that take pres and work out in the evening, how soon are you able to fall asleep?

I think that all depends on the individual. If I even workout at night in not able to go to sleep till around 1 or 2 am.

[Deadliftin]

I think that all depends on the individual. If I even workout at night in not able to go to sleep till around 1 or 2 am.

Same... I shoot for no stims after 3PM

[Blainex]

I usually have no problem taking a pre and working out at 5-6pm and falling asleep by 9:30-10:30 pm

[Misctake7]

Thanks my man!

Another pre question...I've always worked out in the AM. For you guys that take pres and work out in the evening, how soon are you able to fall asleep?

Usually take my pre around 3:30-4pm and I'm normally passing out around 9:30-10pm. Usually never have any problems sleeping unless I take yohimbine when I don't have a tolerance built up.

[BenBlue]

So I used Reign again this morning, and I'm leaving Kraken in my numero uno position. I actually didn't love Reign so much this time. I won't be using it at 2 full scoops regularly. I was a little generous with my scoops this morning, they were rounded to a degree, and I had some sides. Def had cold sweats but they were manageable, not too bad. Had a runny nose which again was manageable. The part that got me was the heart rate. I can't remember the last time I felt my heart beating through my chest. The first 30 minutes or so once it kicked in, my chest was tight, could feel my heart pounding through my chest plate with my hand. But the weird thing is, I didn't feel like I took a bunch of stims. Just the chest pounding and cold sweats were the give away. So didn't quite get the rush of smooth energy/focus that I want out of a heavy hitter. The energy aspect was smooth from a head high perspective, but the physical sides weren't so pleasant and they made it hard to focus on my lifts.

I think i'm gonna end up using it at lower doses and not for my super heavy and hard days. I'll leave Kraken as my go to for those days, and maybe use Reign sparingly at lower doses. Still think it's a great product, just not sure the Stim x is what I want out of a stimulant. Glad it's been a positive experience for so many others though, and who knows, maybe this was a one off.

[Farley1324]

So I used Reign again this morning, and I'm leaving Kraken in my numero uno position. I actually didn't love Reign so much this time. I won't be using it at 2 full scoops regularly. I was a little generous with my scoops this morning, they were rounded to a degree, and I had some sides. Def had cold sweats but they were manageable, not too bad. Had a runny nose which again was manageable. The part that got me was the heart rate. I can't remember the last time I felt my heart beating through my chest. The first 30 minutes or so once it kicked in, my chest was tight, could feel my heart pounding through my chest plate with my hand. But the weird thing is, I didn't feel like I took a bunch of stims. Just the chest pounding and cold sweats were the give away. So didn't quite get the rush of smooth energy/focus that I want out of a heavy hitter. The energy aspect was smooth from a head high perspective, but the physical sides weren't so pleasant and they made it hard to focus on my lifts.

I think i'm gonna end up using it at lower doses and not for my super heavy and hard days. I'll leave Kraken as my go to for those days, and maybe use Reign sparingly at lower doses. Still think it's a great product, just not sure the Stim x is what I want out of a stimulant. Glad it's been a positive experience for so many others though, and who knows, maybe this was a one off.

harmonica

It's strong, that's for sure.

I wonder how it will stack with the new epilogue when it drops, like one scoop reign + epilogue

[BenBlue]

harmonica

It's strong, that's for sure.

I wonder how it will stack with the new epilogue when it drops, like one scoop reign + epilogue

That'll be interesting for sure. Will have to wait to see the profile.

But ya, it's strong but it doesn't feel as strong as some others for me in terms of the "head high". It's more the sides that made me realize how strong it is. I guess the Kanaease does a lot to mellow the effects.

[blokpost]

Nutrabio Pre
PES Prolific (haven't tried it)
Ergoblast
Scivation (haven't tried it)

[superhuman67]

I read over at AM that someone did 1 scoop of Re1gn and 1 scoop of Conquer Unleashed and that worked
well so that might be something to try. I haven't purchased Re1gn or CUL so I can't say how either feels
but just reading all the feedback so I know what to expect IF in the future I decide to tryout Re1gn but
for now I have enough PW on hand.

[Meatie]

That'll be interesting for sure. Will have to wait to see the profile.

But ya, it's strong but it doesn't feel as strong as some others for me in terms of the "head high". It's more the sides that made me realize how strong it is. I guess the Kanaease does a lot to mellow the effects.

im bouncing back between 1.75-2 scoops and the more i use it the less i get the 'undesireable' effects like you described. the heavy heart rate in between sets, runny nose, cold sweats. yesterday i two scoped it and blasted through the workout with very little anything other than good focus/energy/epic pomps