New Trayvon Martin photos released into evidence

[tsbalr120]

Like what? Zimmerman did the right thing and called the police, but then decided to play rent-a-cop after the dispatcher told him NOT to follow him. All of you conservatards are so concerned about privacy, yet think it's ok for Zimmerman to invade on Martin's privacy.

Zimmerman needs to be tried for murder.

Is checking the street sign and walking back to his truck "playing rent a cop" to you? Because thats what happened in the statement.

How do you have privacy walking down the street? Do paparazzi break privacy laws eveyday then?

Last time I checked he is being tried brah


Still waiting on those links

[jafomofo]

Link to evidence he provoked it?

Link to where POLICE told him not to pursue?

Link to evidence he persued after talking to dispatcher

are we not considering the police dispatcher as a representative of the police now? Also, if you want evidence that he continued after the dispatcher indicated he shouldn't follow then just watch Zimmermans own re-enactment of the events. He went back with cops the next day and walked them through it. His explanation was off in a few places so its worth watching.

Link to relevant thread/post.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post989275553

[DennisR1977]

Like what? Zimmerman did the right thing and called the police, but then decided to play rent-a-cop after the dispatcher told him NOT to follow him. All of you conservatards are so concerned about privacy, yet think it's ok for Zimmerman to invade on Martin's privacy.

Zimmerman needs to be tried for murder.

It doesn't matter what the dispatcher said, and he lost sight of him after being told that.

So being followed in a public space is violating his privacy?

Duking out infers it was mutual combat, have any proof it was mutual?

[IawI]

Like I said... idiot confirmed.

You keep shortening my quotes and not addressing them in their entirety. But since you're ok with murder, I guess in your world, I can follow anyone with a loaded gun, wait for them to put a finger on me, then shoot them and get away with it.

[tsbalr120]

I don't give a f*ck who attacked who. You don't follow someone without the risk of an altercation. Zimmerman knew this so well that he followed him WITH A LOADED GUN.

Following someone is perfectly legal. Paparazzi make a living doing it. If the person being followed assaults the follower, they are legally 100% liable. Also it doesn't matter if zimmerman is armed since he was a legal CCW permit holder.


Links brah, snap snap.

[Kiknskreem]

You keep shortening my quotes and not addressing them in their entirety. But since you're ok with murder, I guess in your world, I can follow anyone with a loaded gun, wait for them to put a finger on me, then shoot them and get away with it.

Lol.

Sorry bro, you're too stupid/dishonest to converse with.

BRB... considering relevant info like who attacked who makes me somehow "ok with murder."

[tsbalr120]

are we not considering the police dispatcher as a representative of the police now? Also, if you want evidence that he continued after the dispatcher indicated he shouldn't follow then just watch Zimmermans own re-enactment of the events. He went back with cops the next day and walked them through it. His explanation was off in a few places so its worth watching.

Link to relevant thread/post.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post989275553

Dispatchers are not the police and have no legal authority.

As I said, after he lost sight while talking to the dispatcher, he checked the street name and was walking back to his truck.

[m0ridin]

are we not considering the police dispatcher as a representative of the police now?

I would hope not.

Also, if you want evidence that he continued after the dispatcher indicated he shouldn't follow then just watch Zimmermans own re-enactment of the events. He went back with cops the next day and walked them through it. His explanation was off in a few places so its worth watching.

Where was his explanation off? Lets not forget that he had just been in an extremely stressful situation. Most people can't even recall basic details about similar events, from what I understand.

[fitnessislife]

Zimmerman should get the death penalty or life in prison. You don't provoke a fight and then kill the person because you lost, especially after the police told your fat rent-a-cop ass not to pursue the situation.

Uh oh....

[Bushmaster]

are we not considering the police dispatcher as a representative of the police now?

No.

What part of DISPATCHER are you people not understanding? They answer the phone, and DISPATCH police, fire, and/or ambulance to points A, B, and C. They have no legal authiority to tell you jack shiit.

And I especially like the comparison hoooked made to a doctors receptionist lol. brb having the doctors receptionist set a broken bone..

[FawkinJuicy]

The sad thing, is when the facts exonerate Zimmerman, there are going to be riots in the streets because of the media's blatantly biased and attempted conviction of Zimmerman immediately following the incident.

[otisthebat]

are we not considering the police dispatcher as a representative of the police now? Also, if you want evidence that he continued after the dispatcher indicated he shouldn't follow then just watch Zimmermans own re-enactment of the events. He went back with cops the next day and walked them through it. His explanation was off in a few places so its worth watching.

Link to relevant thread/post.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post989275553

dispatchers/call takers have no authority. they are civilians.

[hooked4life]

No.

What part of DISPATCHER are you people not understanding? They answer the phone, and DISPATCH police, fire, and/or ambulance to points A, B, and C. They have no legal authiority to tell you jack shiit.

And I especially like the comparison hoooked made to a doctors receptionist lol. brb having the doctors receptionist set a broken bone..

Look, "agency" is part of law.

If the doctor's receptionist calls you and tells you to come in a week too late and you loose your toe because of it - you know who is getting sued? The doctor.

No, the receptionist doesn't set the bone, she/he speaks for the doctor.

The dispatcher doesn't go out an arrest people, but she/he speak for the police.

Zimmerman knew the police did not want him to go after Martin.

[D2135739]

dispatchers/call takers have no authority. they are civilians.

let's play COD, riPPer.

[otisthebat]

Look, "agency" is part of law.

If the doctor's receptionist calls you and tells you to come in a week too late and you loose your toe because of it - you know who is getting sued? The doctor.

No, the receptionist doesn't set the bone, she/he speaks for the doctor.

The dispatcher doesn't go out an arrest people, but she/he speak for the police.

Zimmerman knew the police did not want him to go after Martin.

actually, no they dont.

the call taker cannot give orders/commands that carry legal standing.

just like the janitor at the police station cannot give you orders.

[hooked4life]

actually, no they dont.

the call taker cannot give orders/commands that carry legal standing.

just like the janitor at the police station cannot give you orders.

Which would matter, at all, if I was talking about "orders" at all.

And yes, that dispatcher did speak for the police.

[otisthebat]

Which would matter, at all, if I was talking about "orders" at all.

And yes, that dispatcher did speak for the police.

the call taker has ZERO authority. you have no legal obligation to listen to anything the call taker says.

[Bushmaster]

No, the receptionist doesn't set the bone, she/he speaks for the doctor.

She might set up his appointments, but she will never in a million years "speak for the doctor" on medical issues. Same with the dispatcher. They Dispatch - not enforce laws. You're reaching.

[jafomofo]

dispatchers/call takers have no authority. they are civilians.

So the dispatcher would need to be a cop to have the authority to indicate that he shouldn't be following martin? Also, throughout zimmermans re-enactment he indicates, erroneously btw, that he was doing as the dispatcher was asking him concerning providing a street address, location, etc... so...?

[hooked4life]

the call taker has ZERO authority. you have no legal obligation to listen to anything the call taker says.

Which again, would matter at all, if that's what I claimed, at all.

[Bucher15]

Which would matter, at all, if I was talking about "orders" at all.

And yes, that dispatcher did speak for the police.

A dispatcher gives advice......nothing more nothing less.

[DennisR1977]

Which would matter, at all, if I was talking about "orders" at all.

And yes, that dispatcher did speak for the police.

Then why do you constantly argue they speak for the police? Which they don't by the way.

[JUSA]

Like what? Zimmerman did the right thing and called the police, but then decided to play rent-a-cop after the dispatcher told him NOT to follow him. All of you conservatards are so concerned about privacy, yet think it's ok for Zimmerman to invade on Martin's privacy.

Zimmerman needs to be tried for murder.

Zimmerman has no right to follow around a suspicious person? Lawl. Trayvon wasn't on his own property, he was out in the public. Nobody was invading his privacy.

I don't give a f*ck who attacked who. You don't follow someone without the risk of an altercation. Zimmerman knew this so well that he followed him WITH A LOADED GUN.

There is no law against following around someone in your neighborhood. There are laws against assault and attack people. Try to think for once, tard.

[hooked4life]

She might set up his appointments, but she will never in a million years "speak for the doctor" on medical issues. Same with the dispatcher. They Dispatch - not enforce laws. You're reaching.

Just think for a second. If get off the phone with the doctor's aid who says "the doctor says to take XYZ." You do it. Your toe falls off. Do you REALLY think the doctor isn't going to be in trouble there?

[hooked4life]

Then why do you constantly argue they speak for the police? Which they don't by the way.

Informing Zimmerman what the police want =/= giving Zimmermna an order.

[DennisR1977]

Informing Zimmerman what the police want =/= giving Zimmermna an order.

The police didn't tell him what not to do, why is it so hard to understand they are not the police, nor do they speak for the police, hence, not a legal authority. They relay information to the responding officers/firemen/paramedics.

[hooked4life]

The police didn't tell him what not to do, why is it so hard to understand they are not the police, nor do they speak for the police, hence, not a legal authority. They relay information to the responding officers/firemen/paramedics.

"We don't need you to do that" - Zimmerman now knows that an agent of the police department is telling him that the police don't want him going after Martin.

It's not an order, I never said it was. But he's now on notice that the police don't want him going after Martin.

[jafomofo]

The police didn't tell him what not to do, why is it so hard to understand they are not the police, nor do they speak for the police, hence, not a legal authority. They relay information to the responding officers/firemen/paramedics.

who was the we when the dispatcher said 'we don't need you to do that'. the royal we? Why was he so willing to follow other direction or satisfy other requests but not that one? Why is zimmermans overview of the incident so at odds with his call to the non-emergency line? Does that not cause you any concern about the validity of his story?

[flairon]

Which would matter, at all, if I was talking about "orders" at all.

And yes, that dispatcher did speak for the police.

The dispatcher can't give orders that have any kind of weight of law behind them. They are not a LEO (for about the 10th time)

[hooked4life]

The dispatcher can't give orders that have any kind of weight of law behind them. They are not a LEO (for about the 10th time)

It's getting pretty funny. You QUOTE me saying "I'm not talking about orders" and reply with "but but!!!! the dispatcher can't give orders!!!!!"

I'm at a loss.