Misc Firearms Crew LXXX: Land of the Rising Holosun and Larue Trigger Watch Part FAL

[Farley1324]

Yea plate carrier, battle belt, 45 degree ambi safety, and a light 3 pound trigger is the perfect storm of conditions for a negligent discharge if you aren’t careful.

Happened when I was on the range recently and luckily the round just popped into the dirt and no ones foot or leg. Dude claims the gear switched his safety off but idk. Belt buckle pulled the trigger when it was dangling from sling.

I...I don't believe it when people (people who should know) say that a safety on a rifle is exactly the same as a holster for a handgun.

I have personally, more than once, had a regular safety get flipped off when the rifle was slung across my back. Not even in gear, just street clothes, both times I squat or sat down to do something on the ground, and I heard the click, rotated the rifle around and yup safety was in the fire position.

And once you have a ready to rock rifle bouncing around a sling let alone in battle rattle with all that sht just waiting to hook the trigger...scary

[benz5521]

Impressive muzzle brake. I wonder if it's enough to tame the recoil from the 9mm Luger round.

Well it’s a competition gun. You know the place where people that actually know how to shoot go shoot.

[criminal_manne]

Well it’s a competition gun. You know the place where people that actually know how to shoot go shoot.

I like competition shooting but… the gear is specialized for the game. Ex: a lot of guys handload their own 9mm so it’s weak AF and barely recoils etc. what competition people do is often times extremely irrelevant to the general population who want a home defense gun or whatever

[NuggzTheNinja]

Rona test came back negative for the wife and I. It makes no sense how this thing propagated. I licked all the same doorknobs as everyone else.

[Brozef]

Well it’s a competition gun. You know the place where people that actually know how to shoot go shoot.

So why have you been looking for one?

???

I don't follow.

[OfficerJimLahey]

Rona test came back negative for the wife and I. It makes no sense how this thing propagated. I licked all the same doorknobs as everyone else.

You weren't licking hard enough maybe?

[RgrJNC]

Glock chambered crew
Shot gun mag full of slugs, empty chamber, safety on crew

Rifle currently cased so empty crew

[criminal_manne]

Glock chambered crew
Shot gun mag full of slugs, empty chamber, safety on crew

Rifle currently cased so empty crew

-Small kids crew
-Pistol unloaded and locked in a small safe in my top drawer crew
-all other firearms unloaded and locked in safe crew
-Gonna die if someone breaks in crew.

But at least my kids won’t shoot themselves accidentally

I’d have to get up, grab key, unlock safe too get loaded up. Would take less than 10 seconds but still.

[RgrJNC]

it’s my funeral.

ftfy

[benz5521]

I like competition shooting but… the gear is specialized for the game. Ex: a lot of guys handload their own 9mm so it’s weak AF and barely recoils etc. what competition people do is often times extremely irrelevant to the general population who want a home defense gun or whatever

Yea but the techniques most certainly apply. There’s a reason that Seal Team 6 and the Unit get trained by Ben Stoeger and Bob Vogel. Good shooting is good shooting. That’s not saying anything about tactics but for the shooting aspect, USPSA GMs or whatever are the best shooters in the world.

[benz5521]

So why have you been looking for one?

???

I don't follow.

Because they are fun to shoot? I don’t buy all my guns because they are tactical and will get me through an apocalypse. Plus wouldn’t mind trying out some PCC competitions.

[criminal_manne]

Yea but the techniques most certainly apply. There’s a reason that Seal Team 6 and the Unit get trained by Ben Stoeger and Bob Vogel. Good shooting is good shooting. That’s not saying anything about tactics but for the shooting aspect, USPSA GMs or whatever are the best shooters in the world.

I watch a lot of Stoegers YouTube training videos, a lot of good stuff in there. Getting rounds on target as fast as possible is a good skill to have for sure.

They make it look so easy and then when you go to range to do some of the stuff it’s like damn that’s a lot harder than it looks lol

[benz5521]

I watch a lot of Stoegers YouTube training videos, a lot of good stuff in there. Getting rounds on target as fast as possible is a good skill to have for sure.

They make it look so easy and then when you go to range to do some of the stuff it’s like damn that’s a lot harder than it looks lol

There are certain things to be careful of though. Like I’m really bad about dropping and holstering my gun as soon as I’m done a course of fire.

I was at a class and kept getting yelled at because I wasn’t checking hands, wingspan, waistband, and intent before bolstering the gun. That’s a flaw I have to work out.

[PapaBurgandy]

Morning, MFC.

[gbullock32]

-Small kids crew
-Pistol unloaded and locked in a small safe in my top drawer crew
-all other firearms unloaded and locked in safe crew
-Gonna die if someone breaks in crew.

But at least my kids won’t shoot themselves accidentally

I’d have to get up, grab key, unlock safe too get loaded up. Would take less than 10 seconds but still.

No kids crew, bedside shotgun loaded and chambered crew.

[JChippy]

No kids crew, bedside shotgun loaded and chambered crew.

This. But no shotgun.

All firearms loaded crew. Most are locked up. Only ones aren't are 3 bedside handguns, one of which is the edc. 1k sqft ranch

[SpeedCheeser]

This thread is the MFC (Misc Feces Crew). Not really sure what you’re asking there.

But if you have a question about dropping a deuce, you’ve come to the right place.

Someone get that Thunder Pants guy or whatever his name is in here.

Unless you're going to be shooting with a gas mask. Then they're terrible.

Do you guys not have gas masks? srs question. Pretty easy to make on your own CS type gas, if there is a SHTF situation I'd expect some type of that stuff would be used, if the cops come for your guns they love gas, etc.

Hmmm, good point. I don't. I have a couple of those painter's masks (due for a cartridge change no doubt) but I don't suspect those are quite as effective. Any recommendations?

[benz5521]

Being pretty productive today so think I’ll be able to get to the range and test the MPX.

Any of you guys run handguards over suppressors? Was thinking about an 8” rail to give more real estate but curious how hot the rail would get?

With a 5.56 gun it wouldn’t be doable because the cans get so stupid hot. But I figured with 9mm it would be a lot better.

Something like this.

[benz5521]

And speaking of chits. I have to chit but the cleaning ladies are here. Think I should chit and then make them go in after and clean?

[Farley1324]

Competition shooting is generally good and relevant to defensive/professional/practical shooting, insofar as it is good and relevant to the mechanics of shooting quickly and accurately, and manipulating weapons quickly. Provided those mechanics are compatible with more practical firearms, shooting positions/movements, and more practical firearms and ammo than powder puff loaded race guns operating on the razors edge of reliability and making 'power factor' or whatever of course, but generally they are.

I don't care too much for too much competition, you end up with guys who think firing single shots at 25 yards is the be all end of defensive handgun shooting skills, get used to dropping the mag and unloading without so much as seeing the person standing 2 feet away from you the instant your pre-planned number of shots are fired, get penalized if you drop a mag on the ground when reloading, think you are behind cover as you lean way TF out because your feet are behind the line or the RO didn't call you on it, spend 99% of your time shooting guns and gear you would never ever carry or use professionally or for self defense, lose points vs someone else because you fired more rounds and got more A zone hits in less total time but also more C hits even though you didn't run out of ammo and wouldn't have run out of ammo shooting your carry gun...

Pro shooters at high levels are the best shooters in the world because they spend more time and effort shooting than anybody else in the world. And they supplementally train HSLD guys because once you get to the point of here you are, there is the target, dump it full of aimed rounds as fast as possible, that part the pro shooters have perfected.

[Farley1324]

And speaking of chits. I have to chit but the cleaning ladies are here. Think I should chit and then make them go in after and clean?

Never have them clean every bathroom on the same visit.

[28maynard]

I do have a credo

Which one and would you buy it again? I need something but don’t want to spend razor or NF $ on it.
That little ACOG is interesting but not sure if I’d like the 1.5 magnification. And, like you said, I don’t want to order one without looking through it first

[gbullock32]

Unless you're going to be shooting with a gas mask. Then they're terrible.

Do you guys not have gas masks? srs question. Pretty easy to make on your own CS type gas, if there is a SHTF situation I'd expect some type of that stuff would be used, if the cops come for your guns they love gas, etc.

you can get surplus masks cheap, the Israeli ones are decent or Amazon sells some but they cost more and you need to buy the nato cartridge separately.

[Griggz]

If anyone is looking for a rein but doesn't wanna go through the hassle of mailing a light to get a $100

https://lanbosarmory.com/index.php?m...1&keyword=rein


Been using this site for years and while it's outdated as fuk the prices are unreal. Don't spread the info too far lol. Their prices on almost everything is lower than anywhere i've ever seen

[Farley1324]

Which one and would you buy it again? I need something but don’t want to spend razor or NF $ on it.
That little ACOG is interesting but not sure if I’d like the 1.5 magnification. And, like you said, I don’t want to order one without looking through it first

The 1.5x is barely more magnification than the "not quite true 1x" "1x" that have been on the market.

And the glass is so crisp and bright and clear, when switching back and forth between the ACOG and the offset RMR, the RMR looks like absolute sht tier trash like somebody painted blue water paint over the lens and then squished it a little in a vise for the distortion effect

[Farley1324]

If anyone is looking for a rein but doesn't wanna go through the hassle of mailing a light to get a $100

https://lanbosarmory.com/index.php?m...1&keyword=rein


Been using this site for years and while it's outdated as fuk the prices are unreal. Don't spread the info too far lol. Their prices on almost everything is lower than anywhere i've ever seen

lanbos is legit

[dawktwenty]

Thinking of picking up a decent bolt action hunting rifle in 308

https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-...ster/p/1442501

Thoughts?

[JMath]

Being pretty productive today so think I’ll be able to get to the range and test the MPX.

Any of you guys run handguards over suppressors? Was thinking about an 8” rail to give more real estate but curious how hot the rail would get?

With a 5.56 gun it wouldn’t be doable because the cans get so stupid hot. But I figured with 9mm it would be a lot better.

Something like this.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/b2cJNGN_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=m edium[img]

Can't see images, but I have an MPX. Had the barrel cut back (by Relent actually) and the suppressor goes on in a way that basically maybe half is inside the handguard and the other half out. I haven't had any issues with the handguard getting too hot.

The suppressor still gets stupid hot though. I guess with enough shooting the handguard could get hot, but I have never had it happen.

[benz5521]

I’ll sell someone my Rein mini if they want it. It’s the full kit.

[Farley1324]

How hot do suppressors on 9mm sub gun lengths get anyway?

Even on a 14.5" 5.56 they quickly and easily exceed 700*F but I don't imagine a 9mm is going to do that right?