Nut Misc "Do You Even Lift?" Thread

[midcoastking33]

Cmon man I'm serious. Im usually a very helpful poster and just want some honest insight

That was serious, take every compound you were doing and replace it with a machine alternative. You can still keep the same split you were doing though

[MITCHAPAL00ZA]

What's the machine equivalent of a deadlift?

Lol, my thoughts exactly, which is why I thought it was a troll response. and in that case, whats a "machine squat"? a leg press? a smith squat or hack squat? those would probably cause even more pressure on my back

[illiniStrive]

There's something like this in our gym:


Simulates a deadlift.

[ZMan45]

Normal to be weaker on smith squat than regular? Can do 270 3x8 on regular, but on the smith today I struggled with 245 on the same reps.

[Ion26]

I think most people have this. Dominant side is always gonna be bigger just from performing mundane tasks. Id go to dumbbells for all presses if its that severe.

I typically use dumbbells for bench/incline bench/shoulder press/etc. Problem is my left side loses its form alot quicker than the right. It even happened once that my right pec was sore and the left one wasnt...

Switch hit, nomsayin?

Nope?

[tanikR32]

All day yesterday and last night my injured shoulder has been irritated and in a lot of pain. I thought I was going to have to sit out for standing OHP today but I managed to still reach my top set of 1's week and hit 150 for 3 (ugly) reps. My lifting partner is all of 145lbs and hit 150 for 5 then went ahead and got 165 for 1. At first it feelsbadman cause I have over 100lbs on him but then I realized my shoulder is f*cked so I still did pretty well.
/blog

Does anyone else in here have a lifting partner who is strong as fuuuu (especially power:weight ratio wise)
In before "hell no, nobody is stronger than me" responses

[midcoastking33]

What's the machine equivalent of a deadlift?

Someone with a lower back injury should avoid anything lower back dominant period, so anything even resembling a deadlift would be out. Not that hard to figure out

[JasonDB]

Alright, So I saw the orthopedic today and after X-rays he doesn't think I have a disk herniation. Possibly ligament damage, but he still says it should heal on its own in 2-3 months. Im still not allowed to squat or dead lift during this recovery phase (and being the impatient a-hole I am, I did squats with only 135 yesterday, and even that really re-aggrivated my back so this time I'm waiting till I'm 100%)...What kind of routine should I go about? Im currently bulking and would like to continue building mass as I'm still a skinny *******.I am completely lost for what kind of program to do without deads or squats. Any advice? will rep 4 life if someone comes up with a good solution. sadly, I'm even debating taking some time off lifting.

Cliffs:
-Bulking
-Back problems, can't dead or squat
-need routine
-will rep

Let your back heal, so basically you have to remove most effective movements from your routine, do chest supported rows, bench press, arm and shoulder isos, insane amounts of leg isos.... see if you can do things like reverse hypers or very light weight (reduced ROM) cable pull throughs... or unweighted 45 degree hypers. Static ab work (again to avoid aggrevating the back)... which you can go very heavy on without causing back issues. Do hundreds of mobility squats every day.

Guys I have a question about symmetry. My left arm/delt/shoulder is noticeable smaller than the right side. For example my right arm is about .5+ in. It noticeable enough that one tshirt sleeve is tighter than the other.

Also I did bench with a friend the last couple of times and he said I can't keep the bar straight like my left arm sags down. Although I don't notice it while I'm doing the exercise.

Wat do?

You are too tiny and weak to worry about this yet... continue building a base before you worry about these things. You can't chisle a pebble. That being said an all dumbbell routine for the bodyparts in question for a couple months will often solve the issue. As to the bench problem, you don't know how to bench... it is a stability issue, not a left to right weakness unless you look like a lobster.

[FunkymonkAW]

Nearing the end of my cut (3 weeks), will be switching to Madcows then. Any reason I can't/shouldn't continue running Madcows next time I decide to change from a bulk to a cut?

EDIT: Considering starting my bulk/Madcows now for 8-10 weeks, and then resuming my long cut for 8-12 weeks after that. I have way more fat to lose than I originally thought, but I'm not sure if I'm sold on cutting for another 8-12 weeks right now.

[hankst]

^ I think Madcow is the ideal cutting routine. Pretty low volume, but some quality intensity.

[MarkVI]

You are too tiny and weak to worry about this yet... continue building a base before you worry about these things. You can't chisle a pebble. That being said an all dumbbell routine for the bodyparts in question for a couple months will often solve the issue. As to the bench problem, you don't know how to bench... it is a stability issue, not a left to right weakness unless you look like a lobster.

This is so awesome lol.

[MarkVI]

It's all that masturbation Ion does because he doesn't want to have sex or women despise him, thus leading one to long nights of self pleasure.

And the most awkward post award goes to SOJA

[jakefurfaro]

And the most awkward post award goes to SOJA

I was thinking the same thing, lol.

[snrygo]

You are too tiny and weak to worry about this yet... continue building a base before you worry about these things. You can't chisle a pebble. That being said an all dumbbell routine for the bodyparts in question for a couple months will often solve the issue. As to the bench problem, you don't know how to bench... it is a stability issue, not a left to right weakness unless you look like a lobster.

this. efore i started squatting seriously, my left leg was 3/4" smaller than my right. now theyre the same size and that happenend after i stopped allthe isos

[Dexter3000]

To complement front squats with hamstring work, is there any significant difference between the Romanian Deadlift and Good Morning? Having tried both, I feel the GM puts more stress on my lower back, but perhaps I was using relatively different weights compared to with the RDL.

Anyway, can I just pick the one that I prefer most?

[Xfaxtor]

To complement front squats with hamstring work, is there any significant difference between the Romanian Deadlift and Good Morning? Having tried both, I feel the GM puts more stress on my lower back, but perhaps I was using relatively different weights compared to with the RDL.

Anyway, can I just pick the one that I prefer most?

Well the good morning does give you a longer weight lever so that would be tougher on the LB. I know a lot of people low them, but im not a fan of GMs. RDLs also gives me a lot better carryover to other stuff

[JasonDB]

To complement front squats with hamstring work, is there any significant difference between the Romanian Deadlift and Good Morning? Having tried both, I feel the GM puts more stress on my lower back, but perhaps I was using relatively different weights compared to with the RDL.

Anyway, can I just pick the one that I prefer most?

Both have their place, GM's will carry over more into your squat strength. If they hurt your lower back, 1) probably doing them wrong, 2) your back is weak. I'm actually going back to GM's every workout as they are such a powerful mass builder and accessory movement. I am a huge fan of the movement and of doing it heavy.

Speaking of which, squats and deadlifts are coming up every week, my bench press is a mess. I'm seriously probably going to squat 500 and deadlift 600 before I can get a legit heels flat, no bounce 315 bench. I can't arch correctly or bench with an arch with my heels flat. It is a massive clusterfuk still.

[joelash302]

You can't chisle a pebble.

Almost sig worthy right that is.

[Dexter3000]

Well the good morning does give you a longer weight lever so that would be tougher on the LB. I know a lot of people low them, but im not a fan of GMs. RDLs also gives me a lot better carryover to other stuff

Yeah that's why the RDL probably feels better. My lower back is not the strongest..

Both have their place, GM's will carry over more into your squat strength. If they hurt your lower back, 1) probably doing them wrong, 2) your back is weak. I'm actually going back to GM's every workout as they are such a powerful mass builder and accessory movement. I am a huge fan of the movement and of doing it heavy.

Speaking of which, squats and deadlifts are coming up every week, my bench press is a mess. I'm seriously probably going to squat 500 and deadlift 600 before I can get a legit heels flat, no bounce 315 bench. I can't arch correctly or bench with an arch with my heels flat. It is a massive clusterfuk still.

They don't particularly hurt but they're just more fatiguing, esp. after squatting. I see the benefits of GM's, though RDL's are probably my fav.

[snrygo]

how does one program stomach vacuums?

[ErickStevens]

Almost sig worthy right that is.

I prefer "You can't flex bone!".

Anyways - Busted out a 525 x 3 deadlift and a 365 x 3 pause squat. Grindy third reps but relatively easy. I'm feeling good about 500/600 in April.

[JasonDB]

I prefer "You can't flex bone!".

Anyways - Busted out a 525 x 3 deadlift and a 365 x 3 pause squat. Grindy third reps but relatively easy. I'm feeling good about 500/600 in April.

I has saw the video... and was impressed... I will not be catching you for a bit on those deads. :P

[phal]

how does one program stomach vacuums?

... As in how/where to add them into your routine? Just do them. (at the end)


-_-;;

[snrygo]

... As in how/where to add them into your routine? Just do them. (at the end)


-_-;;

i meant as far as time goes i can already hold one for like 1.5 mins without problems (asides from getting bored). how often should i be doing them and how many/much of them?

[phal]

I imagine you could get away doing them 2 - 3 times a week, XXX amount of sets x 30 - 60 seconds.

I bet Arnold outlines it in his encyclopedia. I somehow doubt (even if you do them randomly) they're taxing enough or harmful if you mess up the frequency/intensity.

[JasonDB]

I imagine you could get away doing them 2 - 3 times a week, XXX amount of sets x 30 - 60 seconds.

I bet Arnold outlines it in his encyclopedia. I somehow doubt (even if you do them randomly) they're taxing enough or harmful if you mess up the frequency/intensity.

I believe he did also. It was something like 3 30 second holds 3x a week.

[snrygo]

I believe he did also. It was something like 3 30 second holds 3x a week.

thats it? no progressive overload? nothing?

[JasonDB]

thats it? no progressive overload? nothing?

I guess you could do them laying down and stack progressively heavier dumbbells on your stomach. Arnold wasn't big on resistance for a lot of waistline stuff.

[snrygo]

I guess you could do them laying down and stack progressively heavier dumbbells on your stomach. Arnold wasn't big on resistance for a lot of waistline stuff.

wouldnt the DBs help with the vacuum because they are weighing the gut down?

[JasonDB]

wouldnt the DBs help with the vacuum because they are weighing the gut down?

I was kidding. A full vacuum can be achieved, along with completely control and the ability to do it any time, without doing anything progressive.