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    Originally Posted by Reliance012 View Post
    2,300 dead today. Weekly moving average nearly 1,700. Cases seem to be plateauing because states are locking back down.
    Positive test rates began plateauing 15-16 days ago. States would've had to lock down 3+ weeks ago, but that's not the case. Lockdowns are trailing the plateauing infection rates, not the other way around.

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    Originally Posted by ViolentZ View Post
    More than half of covidcels dont experience fever, so temperature checks are very crude
    and people can also easily pop a fever reducing pill before entering.



    Infections gotta come from somewhere ofcourse, so if bars are closed and infections are still high, its gotta be schools or workplaces
    it's almost as if you can't escape a highly contagious virus without locking all of humanity in their homes, thereby executing the global economy and plunging the world into a unprecedented depression that would end up doing far more damage then the actual virus could ever dream of......

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    Originally Posted by iifymbro View Post
    it's almost as if you can't escape a highly contagious virus without locking all of humanity in their homes, thereby executing the global economy and plunging the world into a unprecedented depression that would end up doing far more damage then the actual virus could ever dream of......

    keep suckling that government teet though, it knows what's best
    Reactionaries and purely emotion based decision makers are pretty terrible at long-term thinking. The only long-term thinking they do is never actually their own, capable of just verbatim repeating what a politician says.
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    Lockdowns are/were a mistake

    One of many studies showing no correlation between mortality and lockdowns
    Rapid border closures, full lockdowns, and wide-spread testing were not associated with COVID-19 mortality per million people
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    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    Lockdowns are/were a mistake

    One of many studies showing no correlation between mortality and lockdowns

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/e...X/fulltext#%20
    hmmmm. Wonder why Sweden is reversing course now and locking down?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Who here enjoyed their Thanksgiving with friends and family?
    I sure did, for some strange reason many were not so eager to talk politics, go figure.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    hmmmm. Wonder why Sweden is reversing course now and locking down?
    guess they aren’t following the science

    Here’s more science

    Results: Higher Covid death rates are observed in the [25/65°] latitude and in the [−35/−125°] longitude ranges. The national criteria most associated with death rate are life expectancy and its slowdown, public health context (metabolic and non-communicable diseases (NCD) burden vs. infectious diseases prevalence), economy (growth national product, financial support), and environment (temperature, ultra-violet index). Stringency of the measures settled to fight pandemia, including lockdown, did not appear to be linked with death rate.
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    Tfw live in Az and still haven’t Met anyone that’s been “rekt” by covid
    I know several people who live in AZ who have been rekt by covid. Lol @ the typical Trumper mentality of, "If I don't know people with it, then it doesn't exist." Trump done twisted your dome, son.
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    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    Lockdowns are/were a mistake

    One of many studies showing no correlation between mortality and lockdowns

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/e...X/fulltext#%20

    Although containment measures implemented in countries like China, South Korea, and Taiwan have reduced new cases by more than 90%, this has not been the case in many other countries such as Italy, Spain, and the United States [5,6]. Despite appropriate public health guidance, less than optimal population compliance in western democracies may be an important contributing factor to variation in outcomes among the various countries.


    U should read ur own article more carefully


    Predictors significantly associated with the total number of reported cases per million were days to any lockdown (i.e. full or partial), median age of population, prevalence of obesity, days to any border closure and number of tests performed per million population (Table 3). There was a negative association between the number of days to any lockdown (RR=0.94; 95%CI:0.91–0.98) and the total number of reported cases per million, where a longer time prior to implementation of any lockdown was associated with a lower number of detected cases per million.

    ......and a longer number of days to any border closure (RR=1.04; 95%CI 1.01–1.08) had significantly higher caseloads.

    When the analysis was continued on the outcome variable ‘recovered cases per million’; a full lockdown (versus partial/curfew only; RR=2.47; 95%CI:1.08–5.64); and a higher GHS risk environment (RR=1.55; 95%CI:1.13–2.12) were positively associated with an increased number of recovered cases (Table 3).

    The government policy of full lockdowns (vs. partial or curfews only) was strongly associated with recovery rates (RR=2.47; 95%CI: 1.08–5.64). Similarly, the number of days to any border closure was associated with the number of cases per million (RR=1.04; 95%CI: 1.01–1.08). This suggests that full lockdowns and early border closures may lessen the peak of transmission, and thus prevent health system overcapacity, which would facilitate increased recovery rates.



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    In the context of COVID-19, it is thought that public health interventions typically require from 2 to 3 weeks to affect outcomes, hence the impact of widespread border restrictions may not have yet been detected in our dataset [38,39].

    In the case of full lockdowns, such a government policy may only be effective in those countries where it can be easily implemented and enforced. For example, the United States has had challenges enforcing lockdowns, with citizens in several states publicly protesting public health measures to limit viral transmission, and encouraging open revolt [40].
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    Originally Posted by ViolentZ View Post
    U should read ur own article more carefully



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    re-read it, yep, lockdowns still don’t impact mortality rates
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    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    re-read it, yep, lockdowns still don’t impact mortality rates

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2764658



    In this cohort study, the number of incident COVID-19 cases, rates of confirmed cases, and Rt were reduced and the outbreak was under improved control in Wuhan after implementation of multifaceted public health measures (including but not limited to intensive intracity and intercity traffic restriction, social distancing measures, home confinement and centralized quarantine, and improvement of medical resources).
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    So draconian measures of welding apartment doors shut reduced the case count?
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    re-read it, yep, lockdowns still don’t impact mortality rates
    Only targeted lockdowns needed. A lockdown of society is like using a patriot missile to kill an ant. Lockdowns save a few lives, but for the most part just are a short delay of the inevitable among a tiny portion of people.
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    So draconian measures of welding apartment doors shut reduced the case count?
    Libs tend to leave that part out for some reason.....
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    Libs tend to leave that part out for some reason.....
    you can't even calculate the correct death rate for covid and here you are yapping away like usual.
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    you can't even calculate the correct death rate for covid and here you are yapping away like usual.
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    Originally Posted by ceizer1985 View Post
    You're such a lost soul.
    Did you? If you didn't have a ZOOM Thanksgiving, then you're a hypocrite. Had a great Thanksgiving, with friends and family. Lori would not have approved.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Did you? If you didn't have a ZOOM Thanksgiving, then you're a hypocrite. Had a great Thanksgiving, with friends and family. Lori would not have approved.
    Lol, you don't have friends or family, son.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Did you? If you didn't have a ZOOM Thanksgiving, then you're a hypocrite. Had a great Thanksgiving, with friends and family. Lori would not have approved.
    Usually the ones gloating online about their great friends and family are the ones who are alone in real life. But there is no reason for us to get personal.

    Since you're so interested in continuing to yap, let me ask again, what is the death rate in the US for Covid?
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    Spent Thanksgiving with around 45 people inside, no masks, for about 8 hours.
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    deaths not rising btw
    immunity has been reached btw



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    Originally Posted by frankdtank20 View Post
    Only targeted lockdowns needed. A lockdown of society is like using a patriot missile to kill an ant. Lockdowns save a few lives, but for the most part just are a short delay of the inevitable among a tiny portion of people.

    Yes, we need local lockdowns. Green areas should not be locked, red areas should be locked. Lets look at the map.






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    Originally Posted by ViolentZ View Post
    Yes, we need local lockdowns. Green areas should not be locked, red areas should be locked. Lets look at the map.






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    Originally Posted by HairyWBush View Post
    Hey, you're red. what's going to happen to you?
    I can't believe he hasn't died of COVID yet...
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