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03-02-2024, 10:15 PM #31
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03-02-2024, 10:16 PM #32
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03-02-2024, 10:21 PM #33
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03-02-2024, 10:27 PM #34
Taking down scientifically absurd and dangerous claims with a bit of humour, which the chicken nugget thing is, is lightyears away from your incessant chit-smearing and tranny insults, deliberate thread derails, and having a thread ongoing for a year just whining about the one poster.
You can't equate these two to do some form of damage control.Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
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03-02-2024, 10:33 PM #35
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03-02-2024, 10:39 PM #36
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03-02-2024, 10:44 PM #37
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03-02-2024, 11:14 PM #38
Evolution cannot be scientifically proven. Noah's Ark was real, an actual event. Every ancient civilization has a record of not just a local flood, but a world wide flood of disastrous proportions.
When you look at the four postulates of creation and hold them up against the 4 postulates of evolution, it is abundantly clear that only the postulates creation have been observed.
Evolution is based on four major ideas, none of them have ever been observed.
1. Life comes from non-life
Nope. Not a single example of life coming from non life.
2. All life forms we have today came from single cell life forms.
We do have single cell life forms that we call bacteria, but we DO NOT have 2 cell life forms, 3 cell life forms, not 4, nor 5 cell life forms. We go from single cell to complex, with no evidence that all life comes from single cell life forms
3. Time and chance drive evolution forward.
Time works against evolution. The chance of one simple 100 unit protein coming together by accident is mathematical impossibility, which I can explain if needed
4. What we see today, minor genetic variation in species is evidence of macro evolution
Since cats are diffrent colors, dogs are diffrent sizes, that means fish turned into cows. we know that this is not true Mandel proved that all the genes exist today, you can shuffle them around but no new genes are created. Variation is simply epigenetics.
Now we compare that with the 4 postulates of creation
1. Where there is a design there must be a designer
We see codes in DNA. Codes are evidence of intelligence. You have to translate from one language to another. Not a single example of that happening by accident
2. The earth, the solar system, the universe, the galaxies are young, measured in thousands of years not billions.
EWhat is the oldest living thing on the planet? (it's okay, I know you don't know), the oldest living thing on the planet are trees. How old are the oldest trees? 4,500 yrs..which takes us back to the year of the flood..2500BC
Solar nebuli. A solar nebuli is what we see from a supernova when a star explodes, it leaves a gas cloud, and with modern telescopes we can look deep into space and actually count the number of solar nebuli that are there. And how many are there? A supernova takes place about once every 26 yrs..how many do we have? ..6,000 yrs worth. That's impossible in a universe that is billions and billions of years old. Other evidence such as alpha decay that also shows the earth is 6,000 yrs old
3. Life we observe today are the basic kinds of animals and plant forms that were originally created, and we can test that.
You can breed dogs and breed cats, but you cannot breed cats with dogs, there are limits.
4. Earth experienced a world wide flood approximately 2500 BC, sixteen hundred and fifty six years after the world was created.
The world is filled with limestone. Limestone is a sedimentary rock, it precipitates out of water, the entire earth was filled with water. Every mountain chain in the world, including Everest has sea life on top of that mountain. The mountains rose out of the water, so we know that there was a world wide flood, as evident in the writings
Now give your example of a missing link and stop pivoting. And don't five me Lucy the farce of that bankrupt Indian that ran out of funding and was a known fraud
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03-03-2024, 03:16 AM #39
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03-03-2024, 03:39 AM #40
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03-03-2024, 03:43 AM #41
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03-03-2024, 04:40 AM #42
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03-03-2024, 05:36 AM #43
If you really want to help him, might educate him that attention-seeking (and also attention-giving) threads such as this have no chance of resolving people going after him and it's threads like this, and his own attitude within it, which are why people still do it.
Bodhy, if it truly bothers you and you don't get off to the attention (and I would think you wouldn't after the doxxing):
1. Be mature and ignore it
2. Be humble when you interact with people
If you do both, in time that thread will die on it's own and you will have a more positive interaction with every poster here.
I've spoken to my thoughts on that thread and my disagreement with people still participating in it. On your end, be mature, act like an adult and when you inevitably have disagreements with posters, as we all do, treat them respect. In your case, that will be hard because people do not give you respect in kind. Earn it by being mature and ignore the people who can not let go. There are posters, well only one, I just do not give the satisfaction of my attention any longer. They do not deserve it. You should embrace that mindset yourself, Bodhy.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
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03-03-2024, 05:56 AM #44
I am not a creationist but his post is interesting. I'm curious where he's outright wrong. Are there no 2, 3 or 4 cell organisms? I'm not as concerned with a few of his points, but that one did kind of stick with me.
How is laughing at him without refuting or debating either productive or show where he's wrong? When we all respond to people, we're not just responding to them, this is forum and you are responding to every person interested and paying attention. In this case, I probably agree with you but you did nothing to persuade me at all.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
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03-03-2024, 06:40 AM #45
Furthermore, there are bacteria and fungi which appear in clusters of cells of 2,4 and 8 etc and there are organisms that can regulate transition from single to multicellular and could be a major link in understanding the transition from uni to multicellularity (there's a field devoted to this called the major transitions in evolution, which studies this as well as other transitions like sociality, sexual reproduction, language etc.)
Bacteria aggregate as colonies and biofilms all the time, it's no real mystery. It's why posters who studied science find debates like this painful, it's just a rehash of chestnuts long, long since refuted.Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
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03-03-2024, 06:51 AM #46
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03-03-2024, 07:32 AM #47
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03-03-2024, 07:38 AM #48
Again, you have no evidence of 2 cell organisms whatsoever. Give examples, which you cannot. Nothing I posted is incorrect, because creation is observable, your model of evolution is not.
Solar nebuli alone proves creation, that you cannot get around
I've asked you at least 6 times now to give an example of your missing link..still have nothing I see
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03-03-2024, 09:20 AM #49
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03-03-2024, 09:27 AM #50
It just wants you to post in this thread, instead of the other one, because it can delete this one.
Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!
The only dangerous thing about an exercise is the person doing it.
They had the technology to rebuild me. They made me better, stronger, faster......
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03-03-2024, 10:17 AM #51
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03-03-2024, 10:18 AM #52
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03-03-2024, 10:21 AM #53
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03-03-2024, 11:49 AM #54
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03-03-2024, 12:31 PM #55
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03-03-2024, 12:35 PM #56
There is no "missing link", the whole argument of there being one is fundamentalist religion propaganda. We could find every skeleton of every pre-historic human ever born and you'd still stick to your guns about evolution being false.
Here's a nice little tidbit about evolution happening in less than 40 years:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0417112433.htmWorst jew in the world.
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03-03-2024, 12:39 PM #57
That’s epigenetics & I’ve addressed this, never denied it. Much of what is usually attributed to mutations in the nature is simply adaptation, EPIGENETICS. It is a system that does not change the DNA, it regulates gene-expression and does not need those millions of years to do it. In fact a good example of epigenetic adaptation are the Galapagos finches. It was supposed until recently that changes in the size and form of their beaks required time periods typical to the Darwinian explanation, observations have however confirmed that the changes occur continuously (as rapidly is in a couple of years) and are reversible.
Last edited by Paul Kreul; 03-03-2024 at 12:50 PM.
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03-03-2024, 12:40 PM #58
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03-03-2024, 12:40 PM #59
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03-03-2024, 12:54 PM #60
It's still an evolutionary trait, adapting to its environment and the stessors of it. We've already dug up plenty of evidence showing we share a common ancestor with modern day chimpanzees. Whales evolved from a mammal that used to walk on land almost 50 million years ago. Life is a tree with many branches, common ancestors branch off to different forms of life.
You're a good dude, I agree with a lot your views, especially on politics, but you're letting your religious views completely blind you to scientific fact. We're going to have to agree to disagree. I'd rather the thread get back on track and ignore wincel's derailment to take focus off of his chit smearing boyfriend.Worst jew in the world.
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