Hundreds of former prosecutors say Trump would've been charged with Obstruction..

[NYPat]

Right. The Steele Dossier sparked the bogus investigation against the President. AG Barr will be investigating the investigation. Since the investigation was based upon fraud, and involved the highest of the highest of government officials, some serious shiit is going to go down.

You sound like Schiff saying that there was plenty of evidence of collusion when that is 100% false as stated by Mueller. And, absolutely no evidence has ever been presented by Schiff, because he is a liar.

You are maikng it up as you go. I go by facts.

The Mueller report lays out plenty of "facts" that show collusion and obstruction. I'm not making anything up, it right there for everyone to read.

The problem you and many Trumpers on this fourm have is that no indictments were issued. If Mueller had indicted Trump, would you change your opinion? Probably not.

[Blasting]

It's astounding how Trump has so mezmorized his little cultist that regardless of who or how many prominent people from all political backgrounds condemn his douchebagness, y'all just laugh and say "hur dur 6 more years" "hur dur only the stooge Trump put in place as AG matters hur dur"

Man y'all are so freaking SAD

Almost, but not really, as astounding as you libs crying for years that orange man colluded with Russia, only to be proven wrong, and then to move the goal posts to another planet about obstruction that has no merit either. All because you don’t like the tweets of the guy that has the economy in fantastic shape.

[Ikeman83]

The Steele Dossier was not used to start the investigation, even though most of it was proven true.

The cost was not $50 million and the assets seized from Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort exceeded the cost of the investigation, and actually turned a profit for the government.

The conclusion was that a sitting president could not be indicted. There was plenty of evidence of bot h collusion and obstruction in the Mueller report.

Wow..

LOL, the Steele Dossier was the whole case.

Witch Hunt

[Mark1T]

The Mueller report lays out plenty of "facts" that show collusion and obstruction. I'm not making anything up, it right there for everyone to read.

The problem you and many Trumpers on this fourm have is that no indictments were issued. If Mueller had indicted Trump, would you change your opinion? Probably not.

I guess that's why Mueller himself stated that there was no collusion. But, a guy on the internet didn't get the memo.

I haven't ever run into you, NYPat, but I did think you were sharper than what you are displaying here.

The new investigation may go right up to the then Obama White House.

[Ikeman83]

The Mueller report lays out plenty of "facts" that show collusion and obstruction. I'm not making anything up, it right there for everyone to read.

The problem you and many Trumpers on this fourm have is that no indictments were issued. If Mueller had indicted Trump, would you change your opinion? Probably not.

It actually lays out that there was no Collusion, in spite of many opportunities being presented to Collude.

[beowulf10]

Barr said if the investigation was founded on illegal basis Trump had every right to do everything he could to stop it.

That’s not quite what Barr said.

Barr was talking about the corrupt intent element of the crime of obstruction.

He didn’t say anything about a hypothetical investigation being “illegal”, he spoke about a hypothetical investigation where the corrupt intent element would be absent in a case where a President ended an investigation which was groundless or based on false accusations.

And that’s not even an IF in the press case. We know the investigation was not groundless or based on false accusations given all the convictions and guilty pleas of the people involved.

Barr is the acting AG, not an anonymous former prosecutor.

As of this moment letter was signed by 500+ former prosecutor.

[NYPat]

LOL ok. So you are good with allowing the person under investigation to pick and choose which subpoenaed evidence they want to hand over and which they don’t?
Destroying subpoenaed material is the very definition of obstruction. You don’t seem to care about that though

However, the implication — that Clinton deleted emails relevant to the subpoena in order to avoid scrutiny — is unprovable if not flat wrong.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...eted-33000-em/

[WrestlingFan123]

The Steele Dossier was not used to start the investigation, even though most of it was proven true.

The cost was not $50 million and the assets seized from Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort exceeded the cost of the investigation, and actually turned a profit for the government.

The conclusion was that a sitting president could not be indicted. There was plenty of evidence of bot h collusion and obstruction in the Mueller report.

Wow..

You are cheering about the Manafort asset forfeiture that came about from a political campaign colluding with the Ukrainian Govt. to get dirt on Trump's campaign. Can't you smell the hypocrisy emanating from your post?

In terms of the Steele Dossier, we know for a fact that Cohen in Prague was verified to be an outright falsehood by both the SCO (Mueller) and Cohen's congressional testimony.

[NitrogenWidget]

It's astounding how Trump has so mezmorized his little cultist that regardless of who or how many prominent people from all political backgrounds condemn his douchebagness, y'all just laugh and say "hur dur 6 more years" "hur dur only the stooge Trump put in place as AG matters hur dur"

Man y'all are so freaking SAD

Or maybe you just have TDS and are wrong?

[beowulf10]

Who cares what some former Obama or Bush attorneys have to say? The signature petition was started by "Protect Democracy" which is run by Ian Bassin, a former Obama White House lawyer ( https://twitter.com/ianbassin ).

Looking up Ian Bassin's donations on Fec.gov, he gives tons of money to ActBlue, Beto for Texas, Swing Left, and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, but he assures everyone on his website that he's "non-partisan"

Okay, Jeff

From the WP article:

“The list also includes more than 20 former U.S. Attorneys, and more than 100 people with at least 20 years of service at the Justice Department — most of them former career officials. The signers worked in every presidential administration since that of Dwight D. Eisenhower.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...?noredirect=on

[NYPat]

I guess that's why Mueller himself stated that there was no collusion. But, a guy on the internet didn't get the memo.

I haven't ever run into you, NYPat, but I did think you were sharper than what you are displaying here.

The new investigation may go right up to the then Obama White House.

You mean conspiracy charges vs collusion.

But lol at calling out my intelligence while promoting an Obama CT theory. Fuking Fox News lol.

[BuckNakedinBama]

BREAKING NEWS: NOT ALL LAWYERS COME TO A CONSENSUS ON WHETHER OR NOT THE SKY IS BLUE

Seriously. You can find 400 lawyers in this country to say anything. I argue with my colleagues about everything all the time, and they with each other. This means nothing.

Also, LOL at the absolute worse thing that Trump might have done after being harassed for 2+ years was trying to get people to stop harassing him and his family/friends. That's an incredibly pathetic narrative and shifting of the goal posts for the Democrat party of losers.

[WrestlingFan123]

The Mueller report lays out plenty of "facts" that show collusion and obstruction. I'm not making anything up, it right there for everyone to read.

The problem you and many Trumpers on this fourm have is that no indictments were issued. If Mueller had indicted Trump, would you change your opinion? Probably not.

[NYPat]

You are cheering about the Manafort asset forfeiture that came about from a political campaign colluding with the Ukrainian Govt. to get dirt on Trump's campaign. Can't you smell the hypocrisy emanating from your post?

In terms of the Steele Dossier, we know for a fact that Cohen in Prague was verified to be an outright falsehood by both the SCO (Mueller) and Cohen's congressional testimony.

Who's "cheering"? Trump surrounded, and continues to surround himself with super shady people.

Cohen in Prague is the only thing proved false. Can you name anything else? Because many things were proven true.

[beowulf10]

"Hundreds of former federal prosecutors..."

LMFAO!!

The only opinions that matter are those of AG Barr, DAG Rosentstein and Mueller and NONE of them found that Trump obstructed justice .

With respect to Mueller that’s not true. Mueller refrained from stating a conclusion, but outlined several different episodes where there was substantial evidence proving each element of the crime of obstruction.

And that’s why 500+ former prosecutors signed this letter

[NYPat]

BREAKING NEWS: NOT ALL LAWYERS COME TO A CONSENSUS ON WHETHER OR NOT THE SKY IS BLUE

Seriously. You can find 400 lawyers in this country to say anything. I argue with my colleagues about everything all the time, and they with each other. This means nothing.

Also, LOL at the absolute worse thing that Trump might have done after being harassed for 2+ years was trying to get people to stop harassing him and his family/friends. That's an incredibly pathetic narrative and shifting of the goal posts for the Democrat party of losers.

Are you a federal prosecutor?

[WrestlingFan123]

With respect to Mueller that’s not true. Mueller refrained from stating a conclusion, but outlined several different episodes where there was substantial evidence proving each element of the crime of obstruction.

And that’s why 500+ former prosecutors signed this letter

Once again please read pg 391 of the Mueller Report pdf

In contrast, the President’s actions to serve political or policy interest would not qualify as corrupt. The President’s role as head of the government necessarily requires him to take into account political factors in making policy decisions that affect law enforcement actions and proceedings. For instance, the President’s decision to curtail a law-enforcement investigation to avoid international friction would not implicate the obstruction of justice statutes.

[Mark1T]

You mean conspiracy charges vs collusion.

But lol at calling out my intelligence while promoting an Obama CT theory. Fuking Fox News lol.

FOX News? Grabbing at straws. No one is talking about collusion anymore but you. Embarrassing.

Next time think about your argument before posting to save face.

Anyway, since you lost all credibility with obvious and proven untruths, we are done.

[BuckNakedinBama]

Are you a federal prosecutor?

No, but that's irrelevant. I am friends with several district attorneys and a few judges along with lots of attorneys in private practice and we all argue about many aspects of the law with each other on a regular basis. Lawyers disagree with each other about everything. You could find 500 environmental lawyers who say global warming isn't a thing if you wanted to. Would you treat their opinions as gospel?

[NYPat]

FOX News? Grabbing at straws. No one is talking about collusion anymore but you. Embarrassing.

Next time think about your argument before posting to save face.

Anyway, since you lost all credibility with obvious and proven untruths, we are done.

Aka, you're ditching out.

Have a nice night.

[NYPat]

No, but that's irrelevant. I am friends with several district attorneys and a few judges along with lots of attorneys in private practice and we all argue about many aspects of the law with each other on a regular basis. Lawyers disagree with each other about everything. You could find 500 environmental lawyers who say global warming isn't a thing if you wanted to. Would you treat their opinions as gospel?

Lol, cool story dude.

[SillieBazzillie]

Or maybe you just have TDS and are wrong?

Me and hundreds of prosecutors?

Man you people are a SAD commentary on this country. So invested in such a silver spoon, brainless douchebag. And you guys think you’re men? Following a weak little bitch like Trump? Nope nope

[401Delta]

With respect to Mueller that’s not true. Mueller refrained from stating a conclusion...

^^ In other words, he did not CONCLUDE that Trump obstructed justice.

And that’s why 500+ former prosecutors signed this letter

Whose combined opinions amount to a pile of dog sh*t. Scratch that...less than a pile of dog sh*t. Much, much less than a pile of dog sh*t.

LMFAO!!

[cashinout]

Me and hundreds of prosecutors?

Man you people are a SAD commentary on this country. So invested in such a silver spoon, brainless douchebag. And you guys think you’re men? Following a weak little bitch like Trump? Nope nope

so there aren't hundreds of Trump-hating prosecutors in this country?

im sure this list includes tons of people who agree with all of Trump's politics but just want to take the moral high ground

get real

[ImpressiveGainz]

So...just another attempt to extend the Russian collusion narrative? Will tax returns be important next week, or will it be another washed up pornstar reeeeeing #metoo? Hard to keep up with the schedule.

[SillieBazzillie]

so there aren't hundreds of Trump-hating prosecutors in this country?

im sure this list includes tons of people who agree with all of Trump's politics but just want to take the moral high ground

get real

Jim Jones was unfairly criticized too said his cultist. They were the only ones who really knew what he was saying.

Bizarre

[NYPat]

Letter is still meaningless. No one cares about it. It is solely meant for the news media to push to then be consumed by dupes like you and OP.

No one cares.

Yeah, the guy who wrote the report felt the need to write a letter to memorialize the fact that Barr was intentionally misrepresenting the report.

But yeah, no one cares and Barr made it clear that it was because Mueller cared what the MSM was saying...

(Mueller said nothing about the MSM in his letter)

[WrestlingFan123]

Me and hundreds of prosecutors?

Man you people are a SAD commentary on this country. So invested in such a silver spoon, brainless douchebag. And you guys think you’re men? Following a weak little bitch like Trump? Nope nope

How many of them were involved in the investigation or at least got to see the unredacted materials related to said investigation?

The SCO and Mueller punted on Obstruction, the highest law enforcement official in the US said there was no obstruction, Rosenstein who has no loyalty to Trump (and suggested wearing a wire in the WH) signed off on that same conclusion, Rosenstein himself oversaw the investigation and appointment of the SCO.

[401Delta]

So...just another attempt to extend the Russian collusion narrative? Will tax returns be important next week, or will it be another washed up pornstar reeeeeing #metoo? Hard to keep up with the schedule.

Tax returns are already a dud, too.

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=177122861

[Stizzel]

Who cares what some former Obama or Bush attorneys have to say? The signature petition was started by "Protect Democracy" which is run by Ian Bassin, a former Obama White House lawyer ( https://twitter.com/ianbassin ).

Looking up Ian Bassin's donations on Fec.gov, he gives tons of money to ActBlue, Beto for Texas, Swing Left, and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, but he assures everyone on his website that he's "non-partisan"

Okay, Jeff

Its pretty obvious there was obstruction. Trump gave them everything they asked for, never hindered them in any way, and never used executive privilege. It doesn't get any more obstruction than that.