Are the Hodge twins and Lui Marco the biggest retard in the bodybuilding scene?

[AP12493]

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FUK OUTTA DA WEYYY!!!

[iiiEatBabies]

When im impatient i lose wait

[GaiusBaltar]

Deadlifts are dangerous if done wrong, and most noobs will hurt themselves doing them.

thats retarded. Every people out there that deadlifts was once a noob. and the people who hurt themselves are intermediate lifters with a too big ego.

[dmaaack]

Hodge twins are hilarious.

Like someone said above, they are not for the serious bodybuilder scene.
Their advice caters to the average joe. They keep it simple MAAAAYNE

[SuperGeO]

Pretty sure anyone serious watches the twins for amusement purposes only.

[GaiusBaltar]

are you retarded bro? you think every noob will know what IIFYM is, and count marcos? they keep it simple, when you over complicate things noobs give up

you are the retard. Buy saying you cant eat a certain type of food, they are over complicating stuff. If you say to a noob you can eat whatever you want to eat, as long as you watch quantities, its a lot more simple and motivating than saying you have to eat this and that at this time.

Ian says its simple. its about quantities and not the type of food you eat.

[HoratioC]

But you can do whatever the FUK YOU WANNA DO.

Lols.

Edit: ^Doctors advice average joes to do IIFYM. (Eat in moderation they say)

[ImJJames]

Its just advice.

[KidGogeta]

they hate on the pop tart **** for two reasons:

1) average dude doesn't know **** about counting macros, hes just gonna sit there eating ****ing pop tarts all day er day

2) their trying to promote a healthy lifestyle, who da **** eats pop tarts and ice cream and feels healthy. Sure it fits into your macros but what about your micros. the extreme bulks and cuts the people do aren't healthy in any way, and especially when you do it with ****ing pop tarts.

[testingsleeping]

[alphagorilla]

you are the retard. Buy saying you cant eat a certain type of food, they are over complicating stuff. If you say to a noob you can eat whatever you want to eat, as long as you watch quantities, its a lot more simple and motivating than saying you have to eat this and that at this time.

Ian says its simple. its about quantities and not the type of food you eat.

i was going to debate you on this,

then i saw BUY used incorrectly in a sentence by a 26yr old,

you should be worrying less about what other youtubers think, and worrying more about grammar.

[Woundwort]

source?

[Clean]

U guys are *******s. The hogdetwins give advice to the average joe looking to get in shape like them. They keep it simple to apply to a large audience. They preach: All supplements are crap besides creatine and whey. To use compound movements. You dont need 25sets a work out to build muscle. And to eat healthy. Whats the problem? But at the end of the day its just advice man. Thats allllll it is man. You can do whatever the FUK you wanna dooooo

How can they advocate compound movements when they hate on the best compound movement, the deadlift??? I don't even think they do squats either.

Entertaining as fuark though. I'm watchin em right now lol.

[ahox]

I really think they must be trolling the whole youtube fitness community. They both follow iifym yet they talk sht about iifym. Lui eats ice cream in countless numbers of vids and the twins talk about going to mcdonalds drive thru and eating other fast foods. They BOTH used to talk about white rice as it was some insulin bomb that promotes instantaneous fat gain now they have vids in which they BOTH eat white rice saying well it doesn't really make a difference. I actually think people are taking this too lightly. They are literally steering hundreds of people in the wrong direction for no reason, myself included at one time. I use to listen to this idiots and my life was just boring as hell and i made 0 gains. brb never drinking, eating out, only clean foods etc...Luimarco is like 30 something years old and has looked the same his whole life besides when he was a fat phuck and lost weight. The twins have been lifting seriously for like 3 years and pretty much hit their muscular potential already. Dem black genetix of peace. srs.

[aesethicsplz]

Always in on this thread.

To all of you saying if the Hodge twins don't harm their listeners, they give them 'safe' advice so there's nothing wrong:
When they say that you have to eat clean foods to get leaner, and that it's impossible to get leaner on dirty foods, the many people who listen end up making their lives far less enjoyable, even though if they hit their macros with the occasional 'dirty' food their results wouldn't be any different.

When they say the best way to get big legs is to do 20 reps+, they are slowing down the progress of anyone who follows that advice with their leg training.

When they say beta alanine just gives tingles and doesn't do anything to strength, people will factor this in when they buy a preworkout and maybe even disregard products that have them, even though there is stacks of research that proves how beneficial beta alanine is.

these are just a few examples. Anythign less than accurate advice will mean listeners can't possibly make optimal gains.
Their logic basically is "we did this, and we think is and it has worked very well for us so we must be right".

The problem with that is, something working does not mean it is optimal. Sure their advice 'works' for them, but that doesn't mean if they followed someone elses advice they wouldn't achieved the results even quicker, not to mention they could've made their lives way easier by using a more relaxed diet that fit their macros without affecting their progress.

[nodnarb481]

Fawkin ogus is the man..

[GaiusBaltar]

i was going to debate you on this,

then i saw BUY used incorrectly in a sentence by a 26yr old,

you should be worrying less about what other youtubers think, and worrying more about grammar.

Your using the exact same tactic as those *******s. Brb attacking the delivery of the message and not the message in itself.

[Bobooshka]

- Brb Ian McCarthy's advice is BS because he looks like he doesnt even lift, but when someone more aesthetic than them (Matt Ogus) back Ian, they say its because of genetics
- Lui Marco often gloats about how he eats Ice cream during a cut, but when Ian says eating pop tarts while maintaining a caloric deficit and hitting your macros, will make you lose wait, Lui Marco says its impossible to get lean with poptarts.
- Brb, 10 meals a day, no simple carbs except post workout, no carbs at night, if you dont drink protein 30 min after your workout, you miss the window. Lolwut, are we back in the 90s?

They are complete morons repping you for being aware

edit: if anyone wants to argue facts you should read some quotes out of wendler's book...

[Merc009]

its just advice

[Power_Strike92]

The twins are cool though, so its cool.

[abcdefg94]

Dead lift CAN be a one way ticket to snap city if your form sucks

[hurstville]

How can they advocate compound movements when they hate on the best compound movement, the deadlift??? I don't even think they do squats either.

Entertaining as fuark though. I'm watchin em right now lol.

If you watched their vids, you would know why they can't deadlift or squat

[thefederalist]

Always in on this thread.

To all of you saying if the Hodge twins don't harm their listeners, they give them 'safe' advice so there's nothing wrong:
When they say that you have to eat clean foods to get leaner, and that it's impossible to get leaner on dirty foods, the many people who listen end up making their lives far less enjoyable, even though if they hit their macros with the occasional 'dirty' food their results wouldn't be any different.

When they say the best way to get big legs is to do 20 reps+, they are slowing down the progress of anyone who follows that advice with their leg training.

When they say beta alanine just gives tingles and doesn't do anything to strength, people will factor this in when they buy a preworkout and maybe even disregard products that have them, even though there is stacks of research that proves how beneficial beta alanine is.

these are just a few examples. Anythign less than accurate advice will mean listeners can't possibly make optimal gains.
Their logic basically is "we did this, and we think is and it has worked very well for us so we must be right".

The problem with that is, something working does not mean it is optimal. Sure their advice 'works' for them, but that doesn't mean if they followed someone elses advice they wouldn't achieved the results even quicker, not to mention they could've made their lives way easier by using a more relaxed diet that fit their macros without affecting their progress.

you do realize that 20 rep squats are as old as bodybuilding and that some of the world's best strength coaches suggest incorporating them?

[Spartan5364]

So why do they pick up on Ian who backs everything he says with scientific studies?

that's what I mean. Hodgetwins never have any scientific backup for what they are saying. They know people could pick apart their broscience so they give a sort of disclaimer at the end of every vid "do whatever you wanna do" which means "I think this worked for me but honestly I have no ****ing idea what I'm talking about"

[Clean]

If you watched their vids, you would know why they can't deadlift or squat

They make the excuse that you'll "snap yo sh*t up mayne..."

[BENTLEY1]

are you retarded bro? you think every noob will know what IIFYM is, and count marcos? they keep it simple, when you over complicate things noobs give up

Repped. This.
Everyone was a noob at some point. As Our love for the iron game grew, (as well as muscles), we learn more. The twins r cool to me. I like the supp reviews and they're funny.
They give basic supps which is important, but at the end of the day it's entertainment.

[Vawx]

The problem is all their advice basically boils down to their catchphrase "you can do whatever the Fuk you wanna do"...

You'd be just as well off going into the gym with that mentality as listening to their advice, because nothing they say is based on science or research, it's just what they do when they go into the gym.

They tell people not to do deads or squats, don't eat certain foods, don't do less than 20 reps for legs. The problem is doing all of those things might be hugely beneficial to many lifters. The better thing for a noob to do is learn proper form, how to manage macros, and from there find out what kinds of lifts work for them. The twins give so much anecdotal advice that pretty much everything they say is useless to the average joe. You'd be just as well off creating your own program.

[coolbrah]

The problem is all their advice basically boils down to their catchphrase "you can do whatever the Fuk you wanna do"...

You'd be just as well off going into the gym with that mentality as listening to their advice, because nothing they say is based on science or research, it's just what they do when they go into the gym.

They tell people not to do deads or squats, don't eat certain foods, don't do less than 20 reps for legs. The problem is doing all of those things might be hugely beneficial to many lifters. The better thing for a noob to do is learn proper form, how to manage macros, and from there find out what kinds of lifts work for them. The twins give so much anecdotal advice that pretty much everything they say is useless to the average joe. You'd be just as well off creating your own program.

urine idiot man


they say they don't deadlift because their backs are messed up. and they cannot squat because of that as well.

they don't say don't do deadlifts, rather that it's a dangerous exercise and you don't need it. which is true, you don't NEED to do deadlifts. they are many other compound movements out there.


they have better physiques than everyone ITT so haters gonna hate

[Vawx]

Yes their backs are fuked up, and they act as though anyone that does a lift they wouldn't do is going to "snap their sh!t up." You don't NEED to do deadlifts, but you don't NEED to avoid them either. Just because 2 clowns fuked up their backs doesn't make it a dangerous exercise, but that's exactly how they portray it.

[AleFCP]

brb preach science but still look like he doesnt lift,


yeah no thanks