i do not get it. why waste time doing curls if pullups do it all. the military makes new recruits do pullups and pushups. if they are good for the military they are good enough for me. pullups will get my arms big quick. curls are for people not strong enough to do pullups. sorry if that makes people mad.
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03-23-2010, 11:36 AM #31
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03-23-2010, 11:38 AM #32
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I only said that because in my experience with pull ups thats where i feel alot of the strain, and yeah thats because the lower half of my body weighs about the same as a line backer in high school. but it still shows that abs Play a part in that motion. Stabilizing the lower body so its not swinging all over the place.
Immagine if pull ups ddnt recruit the core muscles people would have to stand 5 feet away from anyone doing pull ups to avoid getting Ko'd by a ragdoll roundhouse
I may have been liberal with the word "work" in my original post but if a workout recruits a muscle group your'e still working that muscle group.Last edited by BigD_SEVA; 03-23-2010 at 11:41 AM.
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03-23-2010, 11:41 AM #33
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03-23-2010, 11:41 AM #34
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03-23-2010, 11:45 AM #35
we talking pullups or chinups?
when i do pullups i clearly feel it in my back
when i do chinups its about 50/50 but my bi's usually give out b4 my back does....
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03-23-2010, 11:45 AM #36
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03-23-2010, 11:48 AM #37
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03-23-2010, 12:05 PM #38
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03-23-2010, 12:24 PM #40
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in my case i do, if my abs were stronger then i could do a pull up no doubt. Seeing as how Ive maxed out the resistance on some of the machines at my gym for crunches im working using my own body as resistance now. I expect to be able to do pull ups quite soon
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03-23-2010, 12:28 PM #41
Pullups are great! They are what's called a compound exercise. They work multiple body parts. You can also move your grip around to target specific muscles. I'm currently doing pullups with a wide curl grip. I'll do close grip chins. Hammer grip pullups. Great for working: back, shoulders, tris, bis, & yes the abs (from a stability point).
Curls are iso moves, targeting just the biceps.
Both can make your arms bigger, but pullups will help you work towards a better overall appearance.
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03-23-2010, 12:29 PM #42
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03-23-2010, 12:35 PM #43
How do some people say that chin ups won't make your bis grow?
What is the role of the bicep? What movement is better than chin ups at fulfilling that role?
Go ahead, slap 2 45 pound plates to a belt and do a dead hang chin up. Come back to me and tell me your bis won't grow when that happens.
There is no reason someone shouldn't do pull ups for back, and use chin ups as a main bicep exercise, above even the often-heralded "standing barbell straight bar curl".
OP, I don't know if you're trolling but this is important for those who actually want to know and might be browsing the thread:
Don't swing, use your core to stabilize yourself, go all the way up, go all the way back down, and repeat. Once you can rather easily do 8-10, start adding weight. Not only will your biceps grow, but your lats will get destroyed too. So that is an added benefit, even if that's not what you're originally using chins for.
Doesn't mean it should be the only exercise you do for them, as variety is key, but if its the only option, yes it will more than make your bis grow.
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03-23-2010, 12:42 PM #44
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03-23-2010, 12:46 PM #45
Why not just try it and see?
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03-23-2010, 12:57 PM #47
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im not trying to be billy bad ass, no joke I hope im not coming off like that. I have never really tested my back strength i know that one armed row on a machine i can do close to 100 pounds 4 reps lower back ive never tested but it can do waist up + a plate to my chest probably more
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03-23-2010, 02:03 PM #49
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THIS IS BODYBUILDING.com, not I want to be in the military.com. I am 270+ pounds right now. I train as a bodybuilder. I can do 8-10 wide grip full hang pullups. I also do curls. Now, not to get in a pissing contest here, but I WOULD not have arms over 20 inches if I had relied on pullups alone. It's simple. You asked if pullups would make your arms bigger. Sure. A little bit.
Imagine if you got off your butt and hit a stairmaster for a half hour a day 7 days a week. Imagine how easy pullups would be in a few months! Your abs are engaging so much because you are most likely bringing your legs up in a failed attempt to use momentum to get your big a$$ up high enough so you can say you finally did a bloody pullup.
More accurate ^^^
Serious dude, can you even do the negative of 1 pullup?Lift smart.
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03-23-2010, 09:16 PM #50
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03-23-2010, 09:25 PM #51
never done isolation movements for bis and have close to 16 inch arms which is good for my size. idc what you guys say i swear by chinups and hammer grip pullups for bis
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03-23-2010, 09:32 PM #52
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03-23-2010, 11:58 PM #53
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...what?
I'm sorry but how exactly does that work? are you bringing your knees up to your chest or something? Cuz i just tried every way i can think of to do pullups and thats the ONLY time i really felt it in my abs at all. and mind you my abs are killing me from yesterdays and todays training.
i dont mean to sound like a dick at all but how can you say your abs are what preventing you from doing a pull up? yes they do stabalize your lower body from going all over the place and all but you cant say they prevent you from doing one. I know people with very wear core muscles but can do pullups just fine. not many, but they can.
why not show a vid how you do them. cuz it sounds like your not doing something right combined with not having enough strength.
As for original question, I think they can to some extent. Since you can do chin ups and add weight and in the end your bi could be using more weight than they normally could, even though the back would be taking the bigger part of it. But if you want massive 20 inch arms you might wanna add a few other effective bicep execises. Plus tricep exercises since the tricep is about 2/3 of your upper arm. Im kinda surprised noones mentioned that. Or if someone has i missed it. lolzLast edited by blazing_hellion; 03-24-2010 at 12:01 AM.
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03-24-2010, 12:23 AM #54
clive has spoken.
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