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    Originally Posted by Droz88 View Post
    Shut the fuk up dickwad. Everybody knows that any non-cop would of been violently pulled from the car and tasered within 2 minutes of refusing to get out. Instead your fellow piggy had a 10 min "I don't wanna" chat before the taser finally got pulled and he was only threatened with it. From that point forward they continued to treat him much more preferentially than they would any citizen.

    The only reason he got arrested and charged with anything was because the cameras were rolling.
    Actually we call a Sgt, and another vehicle to the job, and we explain to the driver that everything is being recorded, and if he doesn't exit the vehicle the window will be smashed, and he'll be charged with resisting arrest. Majority of people exit the vehicle afterwards.
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    Court is your investigation. He'll be going to court and having to deal with Internal Affairs as well.
    So internal investigations don't result in determinations of no wrongdoing and there is no trial for the cop? I think we both know the answer to this.
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    Originally Posted by Droz88 View Post
    Shut the fuk up dickwad. Everybody knows that any non-cop would of been violently pulled from the car and tasered within 2 minutes of refusing to get out. Instead your fellow piggy had a 10 min "I don't wanna" chat before the taser finally got pulled and he was only threatened with it. From that point forward they continued to treat him much more preferentially than they would any citizen.

    The only reason he got arrested and charged with anything was because the cameras were rolling.
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    Originally Posted by SwollNMember View Post
    So internal investigations don't result in determinations of no wrongdoing and there is no trial for the cop? I think we both know the answer to this.
    The answer is you're a lunatic.
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    So women should also get punished more severely for breaking the law?
    Or children?
    Or the handicapped?
    Or the elderly?
    Equal treatment under the law regardless of whether or not you wear a funny costume and carry a gun. Do you have a problem with that?
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    theres a lot of cops that would have let that guy go. in fact the only reason this one seems to be actually enforcing the law is because he got so many 911 calls and there is too much to cover up. he even says chit like "i understand where youre coming from" wtf, you understand him saying he should be held to a LOWER standard than the general public instead of a higher standard? just gtfo, crooked as chit.
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    Originally Posted by SwollNMember View Post
    So internal investigations don't result in determinations of no wrongdoing and there is no trial for the cop? I think we both know the answer to this.
    I just told you already, he'll be going to court and also dealing with Internal Affairs. Since this made the news, he'll probably lose his job, then you can go back to ranting about vaccines and taxes.
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    Originally Posted by dhawkeye1980 View Post
    My statement was in regards ti soecial treatment, which he did not receive

    The special treatment this guy gets is being able to drive completely hammered like a degenerate fukkhead and swerving all over the road and then sits in his car for 15 minutes arguing with the cops telling them to let him go.

    Any other civilian those cops would have ZERO patience for a scumbag like that

    The cop outside the window even says at 6:20

    "I'm being nice to you. Any other person you would have drug out of this vehicle"
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    I just told you already, he'll be going to court and also dealing with Internal Affairs. Since this made the news, he'll probably lose his job, then you can go back to ranting about vaccines and taxes.
    Lose his job maybe. Then move on to another police force.
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    Originally Posted by SwollNMember View Post
    Lose his job maybe. Then move on to another police force.
    So, what you're saying is that he'll lose his job as a Lieutenant, and then become a Lieutenant on another police force? Or are you implying that he'll start over in another district where they don't do background checks?
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    For anyone saying he shouldn't lose his job over this....WTF is wrong with you

    As a police officer, your suppose to hold yourself to a higher standard.


    - Now there's no way to escape professional discretion....but with something as srs as a DUI, from the video the other cop went easy on him.

    - There's no question this guy has a drinking problem, in fact anyone, today, that gets behind a wheel that drunk you have an alcohol problem and need to see someone asap
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    I feel bad for the guy, DUI is a life wrecker for a civil servant. I got one 5 and a half years ago, haven't drank since the night it happened. Long story short I got in an argument with a girl and she gave me my keys when I was blacked out and told me to go get the car. Luckily I didn't hurt anyone but I almost lost my FD job and can't ever drive apparatus because of it, even after being promoted to Lt. He can only be grateful no one was hurt.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    So, what you're saying is that he'll lose his job as a Lieutenant, and then become a Lieutenant on another police force? Or are you implying that he'll start over in another district where they don't do background checks?
    I say it's likely, if he does get fired (which I'll believe when I see it), he will move somewhere else and somehow get another job as a LEO.
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    Originally Posted by Ted1122 View Post
    I feel bad for the guy, DUI is a life wrecker for a civil servant. I got one 5 and a half years ago, haven't drank since the night it happened. Long story short I got in an argument with a girl and she gave me my keys when I was blacked out and told me to go get the car. Luckily I didn't hurt anyone but I almost lost my FD job and can't ever drive apparatus because of it, even after being promoted to Lt. He can only be grateful no one was hurt.
    Good that they aren't letting you drive apparatus. Glad to see our FD's are tough on DUI's.

    But it's great that you learned your lesson. Some decision we make are life changing, that's life


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    I say it's likely, if he does get fired (which I'll believe when I see it), he will move somewhere else and somehow get another job as a LEO.
    Don't they do background checks? If a police dept takes someone with a DUI, the dept needs to shut down asap
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    Good that they aren't letting you drive apparatus. Glad to see our FD's are tough on DUI's.

    But it's great that you learned your lesson. Some decision we make are life changing, that's life
    Yeah I learned my lesson all right, but at some point there needs to come a time when people can forgive and forget. Unfortunately for people who get DUI's, most of the punishment isn't aimed at necessarily "rehabilitating" people from the infraction but rather further progressing the problem. When I was going through the classes and counseling there was 4-5 people that couldn't make the payments for the classes/counseling and not only did they have to reschedule them, they had to then pay full price and forfeit what they had paid. How does that solve the problem?

    As for you being glad I can't drive apparatus how does that even make sense? I haven't drank since November 22, 2012. It's been 3 years since I was required to have an SR-22 filed on my insurance. I have 0 points against my license at this point and that was the only moving violation in any vehicle that I've ever had. I'm pretty sure if someone's house is on fire they aren't worried about if the driver of the apparatus had a DUI within the past 10 years.
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    The special treatment this guy gets is being able to drive completely hammered like a degenerate fukkhead and swerving all over the road and then sits in his car for 15 minutes arguing with the cops telling them to let him go.

    Any other civilian those cops would have ZERO patience for a scumbag like that

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    Originally Posted by Ted1122 View Post
    Yeah I learned my lesson all right, but at some point there needs to come a time when people can forgive and forget. Unfortunately for people who get DUI's, most of the punishment isn't aimed at necessarily "rehabilitating" people from the infraction but rather further progressing the problem. When I was going through the classes and counseling there was 4-5 people that couldn't make the payments for the classes/counseling and not only did they have to reschedule them, they had to then pay full price and forfeit what they had paid. How does that solve the problem?

    As for you being glad I can't drive apparatus how does that even make sense? I haven't drank since November 22, 2012. It's been 3 years since I was required to have an SR-22 filed on my insurance. I have 0 points against my license at this point and that was the only moving violation in any vehicle that I've ever had. I'm pretty sure if someone's house is on fire they aren't worried about if the driver of the apparatus had a DUI within the past 10 years.
    I'm w/ you. DUIs should be severely punished, but there's got to be some realistic ending to it where they recognize that you have paid your dues. Something like 2 years with no other issues and they should be able to forgive 100%, imo.
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    I'm w/ you. DUIs should be severely punished, but there's got to be some realistic ending to it where they recognize that you have paid your dues. Something like 2 years with no other issues and they should be able to forgive 100%, imo.

    Police officers shouldnt have anything on their record. Even a summary offense...>Not that hard.
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    Police officers shouldnt have anything on their record. Even a summary offense...>Not that hard.
    Meh, at the end of the day we are all people. I think there should always be room for discretion for the person making the hiring decision depending on the situation. I wouldn't hire the clown in OP, but that's different than a guy who blew a .08 a decade earlier w/ no further incidents.
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    Originally Posted by ctownballer04 View Post
    Meh, at the end of the day we are all people. I think there should always be room for discretion for the person making the hiring decision depending on the situation. I wouldn't hire the clown in OP, but that's different than a guy who blew a .08 a decade earlier w/ no further incidents.
    Alcohol isnt a necessity. If you plan on drinking, plan for a way home. Plenty of options...or just dont drink.
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    Originally Posted by TheAmericano View Post
    For anyone saying he shouldn't lose his job over this....WTF is wrong with you

    As a police officer, your suppose to hold yourself to a higher standard.


    - Now there's no way to escape professional discretion....but with something as srs as a DUI, from the video the other cop went easy on him.

    - There's no question this guy has a drinking problem, in fact anyone, today, that gets behind a wheel that drunk you have an alcohol problem and need to see someone asap
    This. resident cop seems to be ok with the standard being LOWER for a police officer instead of higher.

    You have any idea how peppered the angus is of any military member that gets a DUI these days. Its way worse than a civilian. Its because they have an image problem and repeat issues that reduces the publics trust. you would think the police departments would take the same stance.
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    Originally Posted by dhawkeye1980 View Post
    This again? A misd for drunk driving isnt special treatment. Thats the same charge anyone else would get with a .17, hell thats pretty low I had a chick blow .28. A motor cop i know has had in the .40s. There isnt extra charges based on how drunk you are. Idiots
    Usually we are in agreement, but not on this. In some states there are definitely laws that tack on charges based on BAC. Michigan for example (where this took place):

    https://www.michigan-drunk-driving-l...se-lawyer.html

    In the state of Michigan, those who operate a motor vehicle on public roadways and are found to have a BAC (blood alcohol content) of 0.17% or higher may be charged with a Super Drunk OWI offense.

    This should highlight to everyone the fact that cops don't necessarily know the law.
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    Originally Posted by dhawkeye1980 View Post
    He was still charged under the law so what special treatment did he get? .17 isnt even that bad like i said
    LOL. He wasn't 0.17, that's just the minimum for the charge he got. His actual BAC was 0.28, and he was swerving all over the road, slugging from an open bottle of vodka that he tossed in the back seat, slurring his speech, staggering, and uncooperative/bordering on resisting arrest. Dude was completely chitfaced and was a menace to anyone on the road at the time by being behind the wheel. He definitely should be fired. That is behavior that is completely unacceptable for a police officer (or anyone really, but private employers have to make their own decisions, public servant have to be held to standards).

    He should probably faced a little jail time, too. Law carries up to 180 days.
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    Originally Posted by dhawkeye1980 View Post
    Its a slap on the wrist for everybody, why should a cop get more sever punishment? Hell he will probably get a 22 to 30 suspension where as a joe blow citizen would not
    I've seen you post here and there, and for the most part I agree with what you have to say, but this time I don't.

    I do in fact believe officers of the law should be held to a higher standard in regards to following said laws. It sends a clear message to those they protect and serve that not only is no one above the law, but that the people tasked with upholding them are of the highest moral fiber/character, as they should be. People's lives are in their hands.
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    Originally Posted by StrongFella View Post
    I've seen you post here and there, and for the most part I agree with what you have to say, but this time I don't.

    I do in fact believe officers of the law should be held to a higher standard in regards to following said laws. It sends a clear message to those they protect and serve that not only is no one above the law, but that the people tasked with upholding them are of the highest moral fiber/character, as they should be. People's lives are in their hands.

    Fact: Most DUI charges get pleaded down to probationary requirements.
    Fact: Most people who get pulled over might not get charged - There is grey area.

    Technically if someone is drunk on a bicycle they can be charged.
    Technically if someone is passed out in the back seat but have their keys on them, they can be charged
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    This is not his first time driving drunk either ...

    http://www.washtenawwatchdogs.com/sh...ice-are-called

    On July 21, 2013, Sheriff Department’s Lieutenant Brian Filipiak drove to the Wayne County Airport to pick up his daughter but was so drunk and belligerent that his daughter refused to get into the car with him and hid in a back room of the United Airlines baggage claim office. The United Airlines employees called the Wayne Metro Airport Police to assist [1] .
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    Originally Posted by bpatel82 View Post
    This is not his first time driving drunk either ...

    http://www.washtenawwatchdogs.com/sh...ice-are-called
    That's just what we need - a raging alcoholic with a de facto license to shoot people.

    Any cops here still want to defend this *******?
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    There was an incident years ago with a local cop we knew. At the time the guy was going through a rough divorce and was sitting in the corner bar drinking in uniform and on duty. He leaves, gets involved in a hit and run in his paddy wagon.... They covered it up but put him on the internal **** list for years. Last I saw him he was still walking a beat
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    Originally Posted by dhawkeye1980 View Post
    This again? A misd for drunk driving isnt special treatment. Thats the same charge anyone else would get with a .17, hell thats pretty low I had a chick blow .28. A motor cop i know has had in the .40s. There isnt extra charges based on how drunk you are. Idiots
    Wrong, depends on the state....idiot
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