Why can't Republicans win the national popular vote?

[Kraken]

Because they are fking crazy.

They also work quite well when done right. See China or the USSR in its heyday.

BTW democrats are not socialists. They aren't even left wing. They are imperial capitalist statists. That's all. And you, sir, are a moron.

Lol you gotta be a troll. No one repeats commie propaganda so precisely in this day and age.

Capitalist statist? Its an oxymoron. It literally means "private public".

Leftist=statist=public.
Right=capitalist=private.

[brooootal]

Lol you gotta be a troll. No one repeats commie propaganda so precisely in this day and age.

Capitalist statist? Its an oxymoron. It literally means "private public".

Leftist=statist=public.
Right=capitalist=private.

Nope. The US is quite literally both capitalist and statist. The government enables a liberal empire backed by an obscenely powerful military that serves a cabal of business interests. One day, you'll wake up and realize guys like Stalin and Lenin were right about a LOT in their criticisms of our country and system. Until then, keep swallowing koolaid and working 9-5 to generate better returns for people of higher class than you. Do it for Jesus.

[Weightaholic]

Socialism and communism are seductive and attractive.

America doesn't have a functional institutional left wing, so no need to be paranoid about that.

[EvanStroud]

Go out in the world then ask yourself if the majority of ppl are such that you'd want to associate w/ them

This srs

[Kraken]

Nope. The US is quite literally both capitalist and statist. The government enables a liberal empire backed by an obscenely powerful military that serves a cabal of business interests. One day, you'll wake up and realize guys like Stalin and Lenin were right about a LOT in their criticisms of our country and system. Until then, keep swallowing koolaid and working 9-5 to generate better returns for people of higher class than you. Do it for Jesus.

You changed your point, and you're continuing to project what you think I believe. Making up my side of the argument for me. Typical.

[Kraken]

America doesn't have a functional institutional left wing, so no need to be paranoid about that.

You’ll have to elaborate on that.

[Derplington]

Must be a giant conspiracy!

Either that or their policies just aren't super popular?

According to stizzel, there are hordes of illegals commiting federal crimes by voting illegally. They made the expensive and dangerous journey here to escape their chithole homelands, and they're risking everything to vote, LOL.

I should be nicer to the guy though, given that he is retarded.

[RIKTER]

According to stizzel, there are hordes of illegals commiting federal crimes by voting illegally. They made the expensive and dangerous journey here to escape their chithole homelands, and they're risking everything to vote, LOL.

I should be nicer to the guy though, given that he is retarded.

Imagine being this ratarded?

Everyday illegals commit rape/murder/pehdos/gang violence...but they draw the line at voting, because thats just crazy!111

[ColdandChilly]

The only people who vote for republicans are the uneducated, the easily gullible, those who fail to bypass evolutionary tribalism, and the corrupt. Their only form of attack and defense is the same: deflection and insults.

Barring the corrupt, the rest only act based on emotion, they are incapable of any logical rationalizations to justify their choices and decisions. These are the same people who would easily be fooled into believing that something like witches were real in the salem witch trials and pick up their pitchforks without actually thinking things through.

As previously mentioned, they are slaves to tribalism. They identify someone who has different views or looks, and they attack them because they do not belong in their "tribe". Then they proceed to vote for figureheads like the rich and corrupt, because those people are who they wish to be which is incredibly stupid since they should know that if they were indeed in that position of power, they wouldn't give a damn about those below them.

Statistics show blacks are the most tribal group of people. Blacks vote Republican?

[Stizzel]

Imagine being this ratarded?

Everyday illegals commit rape/murder/pehdos/gang violence...but they draw the line at voting, because thats just crazy!111

Ikr

There was a case back in 2011 of an immigrant that had been voting in federal elections for 20 years. The only reason she got caught is because she mentioned it to USCIS while interviewing for some kind of benefit. Didnt even realize it was illegal.

Libs have done a lot to make it even harder to detect immigrant voters since then while making clowns of themselves telling us we should just assume it doesnt happen

Oh and if you want to do any sort of forensics to check after the election you should be arrested for election interference

[ColdandChilly]

Ikr

There was a case back in 2011 of an immigrant that had been voting in federal elections for 20 years. The only reason she got caught is because she mentioned it to USCIS while interviewing for some kind of benefit. Didnt even realize it was illegal.

Libs have done a lot to make it even harder to detect immigrant voters since then while making clowns of themselves telling us we should just assume it doesnt happen

Oh and if you want to do any sort of forensics to check after the election you should be arrested for election interference

They don't need illegals though. They have plenty of legal immgrants to tip the scales

[Stizzel]

They don't need illegals though. They have plenty of legal immgrants to tip the scales

You have to be a citizen to vote in federal elections. In theory. No one enforces that rule so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Libs like to count votes for people that aren't even alive. What's the immigration status of a dead person?

[Austanian]

They theoretically could, but the path to win the popular vote is extremely expensive and would not do anything to help them get elected.

[Derplington]

Imagine being this ratarded?

Everyday illegals commit rape/murder/pehdos/gang violence...but they draw the line at voting, because thats just crazy!111

You've managed to completely miss the point and then proceeded to go on a little autistic rant. Well done smoothbrain, well done.

[RIKTER]

Ikr

There was a case back in 2011 of an immigrant that had been voting in federal elections for 20 years. The only reason she got caught is because she mentioned it to USCIS while interviewing for some kind of benefit. Didnt even realize it was illegal.

Libs have done a lot to make it even harder to detect immigrant voters since then while making clowns of themselves telling us we should just assume it doesnt happen

Oh and if you want to do any sort of forensics to check after the election you should be arrested for election interference

Plus, let's remember, they are counted in the census(which in turn takes seats aways from mostly red States) meaning, giving States like CA extra house seats, which CA then uses to help push through Obama care. Thats fact.

[Stizzel]

Plus, let's remember, they are counted in the census(which in turn takes seats aways from mostly red States) meaning, giving States like CA extra house seats, which CA then uses to help push through Obama care. Thats fact.

Just another reason to gas up the helicopters

[RIKTER]

Just another reason to gas up the helicopters

BRB getting pilot license!

[rampagefc77]

The media and big tech isn't on their side. When you consider this, it's pathetic Democrats don't win in a landslide

Mainly this. Media is almost entirely controlled by dems. Search algorithms on yahoo and google lead you to negative conservative and positive democrat results. There has been testimony showing that google search algorithms likely influence over 10 million votes in favor of democrats. Same is true for social media.

[georgeenoob]

The national popular vote doesnt matter thats why.

Especially where you're from, GTFO out of US politics.

[goody1]

Plus, let's remember, they are counted in the census(which in turn takes seats aways from mostly red States) meaning, giving States like CA extra house seats, which CA then uses to help push through Obama care. Thats fact.

Which is why the left fought so hard to not be able to ask the question if you are a legal citizen or not. They know they would lose seats.

[BigElephant]

- Immigration increase, both legal and illegal. Both are given free **** here by Dems
- Sloots prioritize the ability to kill their own offspring over all other policies

[YouNeedJesusNow]

YouNeedToStopPostingNow

Galatians 4:16

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"



Romans 3:10-24

"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:



Their feet are swift to shed blood:

Destruction and misery are in their ways:

And the way of peace have they not known:

There is no fear of God before their eyes.



Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law:

that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight:

for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested,

being witnessed by the law and the prophets;




Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe:

for there is no difference:

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:"



It's already too late for this Nation and this World,

Our only hope is to Turn to The Lord Jesus Christ in Repentance Right now.

[BigDeeps01]

Not enough gays/minorities
Not enough ballot harvesting
Republicans refuse to adapt and change
Republicans not willing to do whatever it takes to win
Poor people and queers are liberal (on average)
Large focus on identity politics

[Bodhy]

Simple, IMO.


Conservatism can't survive ignorance or the rapid dissemination of information in our digital age. When you educate people and give them knowledge, they really struggle to maintain their conservatism.


Information becomes more readily available and conservatives lose every time if any particular issue is studied or reflected upon. When you can summon a lot of information on a topic these days it's too easy to refute what conservatives say.


It's why they tend to keep their policy stances to themselves. If they do release it, it's easy to demolish them with a wealth of evidence to the contrary to show their positions never work, kill people etc. It's why Trump cultism only appeals to uneducated who live in darkness.

They've only won the popular vote once in the last 30 years. What has revolutionized our world and appeared approximately 30 years ago? The internet. Coincidence? I think not!

[ColdandChilly]

They theoretically could, but the path to win the popular vote is extremely expensive and would not do anything to help them get elected.

Do you know how difficult it is to win a Presidential election while losing the popular vote? It's only happened a couple times in history. It's not a viable long term strategy

[Austanian]

Do you know how difficult it is to win a Presidential election while losing the popular vote? It's only happened a couple times in history. It's not a viable long term strategy

Yet all of those times have been in recent history. The path to victory has changed.

By dumping in 10s of millions of dollars into California and New York the GOP would pick up MILLIONS of votes and swing the popular vote in that direction.

However, no matter how much money they spend they have zero chance of winning California or New York. It is much more efficient to direct all spending in swing states while ignoring the possible popular vote pick up in states that are out of play.

If the goal was to win the popular vote the strategy would be completely different. It is like saying "we made the most baskets so we should have won the game".... Well the other team would have played different if the objective was just most baskets instead of most points.

[John L]

Yet all of those times have been in recent history. The path to victory has changed.

By dumping in 10s of millions of dollars into California and New York the GOP would pick up MILLIONS of votes and swing the popular vote in that direction.

However, no matter how much money they spend they have zero chance of winning California or New York. It is much more efficient to direct all spending in swing states while ignoring the possible popular vote pick up in states that are out of play.

If the goal was to win the popular vote the strategy would be completely different. It is like saying "we made the most baskets so we should have won the game".... Well the other team would have played different if the objective was just most baskets instead of most points.

I'd argue that right now we happen to be in a small window in time where it's a good possibility to win the presidency while losing the popular vote. It's still a narrow path, regardless.

It is definitely unsustainable, though. Just think of the scenario where Blumpf wins the presidency again while losing the popular vote, and then the GOP wins again for the second consecutive time while losing the popular vote. Whether you agree with it or not, there will be mass outrage and the Democrats will seriously start looking at changing things when they control all branches again to make sure that the popular vote matters.

[Austanian]

I'd argue that right now we happen to be in a small window in time where it's a good possibility to win the presidency while losing the popular vote. It's still a narrow path, regardless.

It is definitely unsustainable, though. Just think of the scenario where Blumpf wins the presidency again while losing the popular vote, and then the GOP wins again for the second consecutive time while losing the popular vote. Whether you agree with it or not, there will be mass outrage and the Democrats will seriously start looking at changing things when they control all branches again to make sure that the popular vote matters.

It isn't that easy to change from an electorate to popular vote system.

Just the same if the rules change the strategy would change.

[John L]

It isn't that easy to change from an electorate to popular vote system.

Just the same if the rules change the strategy would change.

A bunch of states already have policy in place to award the popular vote winner their electoral votes.

2 elections from now it will be the year 2032. There is a good chance that Texas turns blue by then. If Democrats take control there, they will hop on board with the other states who have agreed to award the popular vote winner their electoral votes.

[Austanian]

A bunch of states already have policy in place to award the popular vote winner their electoral votes.

2 elections from now it will be the year 2032. There is a good chance that Texas turns blue by then. If Democrats take control there, they will hop on board with the other states who have agreed to award the popular vote winner their electoral votes.

You need to read more into the National Popular vote thing those states have signed.

It is irrelevant until it reaches 277.

Like wise IF the rules change the optimal strategy will be different.