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    Originally Posted by freeheeler View Post
    LOL. And you bent over and took it. My doctor keeps asking if we want to give it to the grand kids. But they are mature enough to smile and laugh without being rude to her
    What are the negatives in taking it, other than your conspiratorial right wing talking points?

    All it can do is offer me and others around me protection from catching Covid?

    I’m totally healthy. No side effects from the original jab.

    It’s you nut jobs that make a big deal about it, when my doctor who went through years and years of training said it’s totally safe and effective.

    Your doctor already knows when you smirk and deny the shot who they are dealing with, yet you think you’re getting one up lmao.
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    What are the negatives in taking it, other than your conspiratorial right wing talking points?

    All it can do is offer me and others around me protection from catching Covid?

    I’m totally healthy. No side effects from the original jab.

    It’s you nut jobs that make a big deal about it, when my doctor who went through years and years of training said it’s totally safe and effective.

    Your doctor already knows when you smirk and deny the shot who they are dealing with, yet you think you’re getting one up lmao.
    Lol…stay cucked. I’m sure your doctor knows more than the countless health organizations across the globe that don’t recommend it for you. Keep pimping your body out for big pharma to take in profits.
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    What are the negatives in taking it, other than your conspiratorial right wing talking points?

    All it can do is offer me and others around me protection from catching Covid?

    I’m totally healthy. No side effects from the original jab.

    It’s you nut jobs that make a big deal about it, when my doctor who went through years and years of training said it’s totally safe and effective.

    Your doctor already knows when you smirk and deny the shot who they are dealing with, yet you think you’re getting one up lmao.
    Come on man is this a joke? It’s not a vaccine, it’s not even mRNA, it doesn’t stay in the muscle as claimed, you injected the most dangerous part of the virus the spike protein & lipid nanoparticles now float throughout your body, it can integrate into your DNA..it’s a fuk show all the way around.
    Should have just taken vitamin C, Zinc, echinacea & sunlight. Like most everyone here.
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    Lol…stay cucked. I’m sure your doctor knows more than the countless health organizations across the globe that don’t recommend it for you. Keep pimping your body out for big pharma to take in profits.
    Right wing nut job belligerently appears lol.

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    Originally Posted by freeheeler View Post
    LOL. And you bent over and took it. My doctor keeps asking if we want to give it to the grand kids. But they are mature enough to smile and laugh without being rude to her
    But the doctors said it was okay......
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    What are the negatives in taking it, other than your conspiratorial right wing talking points?

    All it can do is offer me and others around me protection from catching Covid?

    I’m totally healthy. No side effects from the original jab.

    It’s you nut jobs that make a big deal about it, when my doctor who went through years and years of training said it’s totally safe and effective.

    Your doctor already knows when you smirk and deny the shot who they are dealing with, yet you think you’re getting one up lmao.
    It doesn't protect you from getting it though. And it sounds like you're trying to convince yourself that you needed to get it.

    What's the big deal, it's "just."
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Come on man is this a joke? It’s not a vaccine, it’s not even mRNA, it doesn’t stay in the muscle as claimed, you injected the most dangerous part of the virus the spike protein & lipid nanoparticles now float throughout your body, it can integrate into your DNA..it’s a fuk show all the way around.
    Should have just taken vitamin C, Zinc, echinacea & sunlight. Like most everyone here.
    Another misc doctor chimes in with his medical expertise lmao.

    Yea, let me do what all you idiots did. Sure. I’ll get right on it.

    Not Srs.

    You fukers were drinking bleach on Drumpfs command.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Come on man is this a joke? It’s not a vaccine, it’s not even mRNA, it doesn’t stay in the muscle as claimed, you injected the most dangerous part of the virus the spike protein & lipid nanoparticles now float throughout your body, it can integrate into your DNA..it’s a fuk show all the way around.
    Should have just taken vitamin C, Zinc, echinacea & sunlight. Like most everyone here.
    Covid vaccines are vaccines.

    The mRNA-based vaccines are also vaccines.

    Vaccine-encoded spike is not the same as viral spike.

    Covid vaccines do not alter nor integrate with DNA.
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    Another misc doctor chimes in with his medical expertise lmao.

    Yea, let me do what all you idiots did. Sure. I’ll get right on it.

    Not Srs.

    You fukers were drinking bleach on Drumpfs command.
    What exactly do you think I’m misinformed about?
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    Imagine defending the clot shot years on because Biden lied and said you wouldn't get covid if you got jabbed. And it's always the bigly educated ones doing it. Not a coping mechanism for getting duped at all.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    What exactly do you think I’m misinformed about?
    Be specific
    See post 38.
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    Right wing nut job belligerently appears lol.

    Waiting for incoming substack article.
    And yet you ignore the guidance of first World Health Organization’s all over the globe. Doesn’t matter to me though, if you want to go get the injection then by all means I think you should. But I do think it’s pretty funny, and because of how you treat others I have no problem pointing out how retarded it is for you to do so.
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    Covid vaccines are vaccines.

    The mRNA-based vaccines are also vaccines.

    Vaccine-encoded spike is not the same as viral spike.

    Covid vaccines do not alter nor integrate with DNA.
    False on every account. We will start with your first lie. It’s not a vaccine.

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because it meets all the criteria of a genetically engineered product . It contains synthetically produced modified mRNA packaged within lipid nanoparticles that have the ability to transfect our cells.

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because it circulates in our body and in our cells without being noticed as foreign – unlike the particles of conventional vaccines


    It’s not a “vaccine”, because in 2021, the purpose of vaccination was revised and its definition changed. According to the new “standard”, “vaccines” do not need to create immunity specifically against a disease, but are only required to elicit an immune response, even if this response is non-specific or adverse.

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because upon entry into our cells, the modified mRNA hijacks our cells to force them to produce foreign proteins, the nature of which is partially unpredictable.

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because after receiving a mRNA-based injection, we are initially still considered “unvaccinated”. It will take another two weeks before any medical authorities will consider you as “vaccinated”. As a result, reports on adverse events (including hospitalization and death) that may occur within those first two weeks post-vaccination will simply not be counted, if reported at all. Likewise, it is difficult to argue for any claims for compensation.


    It’s not a “vaccine”, because you are intended to receive boosters on a regular basis. These repeated injections lead to the non-stop production of the antigen, possibly several antigens. This differs from a natural infection, in which the antigen invades our body occasionally and transiently. This ongoing presentation of the same antigen inevitably weakens our immune system.

    It’s not mRNA
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    False on every account. We will start with your first lie. It’s not a vaccine.

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because it meets all the criteria of a genetically engineered product . It contains synthetically produced modified mRNA packaged within lipid nanoparticles that have the ability to transfect our cells.

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because it circulates in our body and in our cells without being noticed as foreign – unlike the particles of conventional vaccines


    It’s not a “vaccine”, because in 2021, the purpose of vaccination was revised and its definition changed. According to the new “standard”, “vaccines” do not need to create immunity specifically against a disease, but are only required to elicit an immune response, even if this response is non-specific or adverse.

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because upon entry into our cells, the modified mRNA hijacks our cells to force them to produce foreign proteins, the nature of which is partially unpredictable.

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because after receiving a mRNA-based injection, we are initially still considered “unvaccinated”. It will take another two weeks before any medical authorities will consider you as “vaccinated”. As a result, reports on adverse events (including hospitalization and death) that may occur within those first two weeks post-vaccination will simply not be counted, if reported at all. Likewise, it is difficult to argue for any claims for compensation.


    It’s not a “vaccine”, because you are intended to receive boosters on a regular basis. These repeated injections lead to the non-stop production of the antigen, possibly several antigens. This differs from a natural infection, in which the antigen invades our body occasionally and transiently. This ongoing presentation of the same antigen inevitably weakens our immune system.

    It’s not mRNA
    Vaccines confer adaptive/acquired immunity (humoral and cell-mediated).

    All covid vaccines (mRNA-based and non-mRNA-based) confer adaptive/acquired immunity.

    Covid vaccines are vaccines

    mRNA does not enter the nucleus.

    Vaccine mRNA-ecoded spike proteins do not infect cells nor enter cell nuclei.

    The mRNA is read and turned into modified spike proteins by ribosomes. Those modified spike proteins are then released and presented on cell surface to initiate immune response (adaptive/acquired immunity).
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    Covid vaccines are vaccines.

    The mRNA-based vaccines are also vaccines.

    Vaccine-encoded spike is not the same as viral spike.

    Covid vaccines do not alter nor integrate with DNA.
    So, still making excuses for those still masking up in the middle of 2024?
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    Vaccines confer adaptive/acquired immunity (humoral and cell-mediated).

    All covid vaccines (mRNA-based and non-mRNA-based) confer adaptive/acquired immunity.

    Covid vaccines are vaccines

    mRNA does not enter the nucleus.

    Vaccine mRNA-ecoded spike proteins do not infect cells nor enter cell nuclei.
    Once again..you failed to address anything of truth.
    They are not vaccines for reasons posted above which you failed to address.

    The “vaccine” was never designed to stay in the muscle but in fact to travel into the bloodstream, lymph nodes, and even into breast milk.

    The lipid nanoparticles, which envelop the modRNA, do not stay in the bloodstream as is the case with a conventional vaccine. Instead, they can basically enter any cell of our body, including key organs such as heart, brain, liver, kidney, lung, spleen, stomach, ovaries and testes.

    The lipid nanoparticles are highly inflammatory and toxic. Thus, repeated injections will enhance their damage to our cells and even their death. A predominant severe adverse event is myocarditis and pericarditis, i.e. inflammation of the heart, particularly in younger people. This inflammation likely results from an autoimmune attack on cells in the heart, which received the injected particles and expressed the spike protein.

    It’s not an mRNA vaccine, that is another lie.

    It’s not messenger RNA (mRNA)… it’s modified mRNA (modRNA). This modRNA mimics mRNA, but has completely different features.
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    So, still making excuses for those still masking up in the middle of 2024?
    People choosing to protect themselves aren't doing anything wrong nor illegal; therefore, no excuses are necessary
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    Once again..you failed to address anything of truth.
    They are not vaccines for reasons posted above which you failed to address.

    The “vaccine” was never designed to stay in the muscle but in fact to travel into the bloodstream, lymph nodes, and even into breast milk.

    The lipid nanoparticles, which envelop the modRNA, do not stay in the bloodstream as is the case with a conventional vaccine. Instead, they can basically enter any cell of our body, including key organs such as heart, brain, liver, kidney, lung, spleen, stomach, ovaries and testes.

    The lipid nanoparticles are highly inflammatory and toxic. Thus, repeated injections will enhance their damage to our cells and even their death. A predominant severe adverse event is myocarditis and pericarditis, i.e. inflammation of the heart, particularly in younger people. This inflammation likely results from an autoimmune attack on cells in the heart, which received the injected particles and expressed the spike protein.

    It’s not an mRNA vaccine, that is another lie
    Do covid vaccines lead to development of antibodies and t-cells?

    Yes.

    Therefore, covid vaccines are vaccines.

    Of course antigen migrates to lymph. That's how the human immune system works.
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    Just 2 more weeks fellas.... then you maybe might be able to have a little of your freedoms back.
    But keep in mind, we may never go back to "normal"
    Wear your mask at all times, keep a 6' distance from everyone around you, and make sure you are up to date on the latest vaccine booster.

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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    Do covid vaccines lead to development of antibodies and t-cells?

    Yes.

    Therefore, covid vaccines are vaccines.

    Of course antigen migrates to lymph. That's how the human immune system works.
    Once again completely disregarding the facts. They aren’t vaccines, they aren’t mRNA..they are mod mRNA, they don’t stay in the muscle, & the modRNA technology results in the production of nonsensical products with totally unpredictable biological effects.

    I can understand not wanting to address any of these issues, I’d be concerned if I injected myself with this monstrosity as well
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Once again completely disregarding the facts. They aren’t vaccines, they aren’t mRNA..they are mod mRNA, they don’t stay in the muscle, & the modRNA technology results in the production of nonsensical products with totally unpredictable biological effects.

    I can understand not wanting to address any of these issues, I’d be concerned if I injected myself with this monstrosity as well
    Facts:

    1) Receiving a covid vaccine induces antibody and t-cell development in the recipient.

    2) Covid vaccines are vaccines.

    3) the human body produces millions of nonsense non-functional proteins.
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    Facts:

    1) Receiving a covid vaccine induces antibody and t-cell development in the recipient.

    2) Covid vaccines are vaccines.

    3) the human body produces millions of nonsense non-functional proteins.
    1) Nothing to do with what I posted, infact we see what it actually produces in the body & where it travels

    2) Not a vaccine for reasons posted, not mRNA..it’s mod mRNA

    3)irrelevant
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    Originally Posted by kcadrenalin View Post
    Just 2 more weeks fellas.... then you maybe might be able to have a little of your freedoms back.
    But keep in mind, we may never go back to "normal"
    Wear your mask at all times, keep a 6' distance from everyone around you, and make sure you are up to date on the latest vaccine booster.

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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    1) Nothing to do with what I posted, infact we see what it actually produces in the body & where it travels

    2) Not a vaccine for reasons posted, not mRNA..it’s mod mRNA

    3)irrelevant
    Everything to do with what you posted.

    Vaccines, by definition, confer adaptive/acquired immunity

    Covid vaccines confer adaptive/acquired immunity

    Therefore, covid vaccines are vaccines by definition.

    modRNA stands for nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (mRNA). Ribosomes read mRNA.
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    Everything to do with what you posted.

    Vaccines, by definition, confer adaptive/acquired immunity

    modRNA stands for nucleoside-modified messenger RNA

    Covid vaccines confer adaptive/acquired immunity

    Therefore, covid vaccines are vaccines by definition.
    We will try this one more time..

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because it meets all the criteria of a genetically engineered product . It contains synthetically produced modified mRNA packaged within lipid nanoparticles that have the ability to transfect our cells.

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because it circulates in our body and in our cells without being noticed as foreign – unlike the particles of conventional vaccines


    It’s not a “vaccine”, because in 2021, the purpose of vaccination was revised and its definition changed. According to the new “standard”, “vaccines” do not need to create immunity specifically against a disease, but are only required to elicit an immune response, even if this response is non-specific or adverse.

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because upon entry into our cells, the modified mRNA hijacks our cells to force them to produce foreign proteins, the nature of which is partially unpredictable.

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because after receiving a mRNA-based injection, we are initially still considered “unvaccinated”. It will take another two weeks before any medical authorities will consider you as “vaccinated”. As a result, reports on adverse events (including hospitalization and death) that may occur within those first two weeks post-vaccination will simply not be counted, if reported at all. Likewise, it is difficult to argue for any claims for compensation.


    It’s not a “vaccine”, because you are intended to receive boosters on a regular basis. These repeated injections lead to the non-stop production of the antigen, possibly several antigens. This differs from a natural infection, in which the antigen invades our body occasionally and transiently. This ongoing presentation of the same antigen inevitably weakens our immune system.

    It’s not mRNA
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    We will try this one more time..

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because it meets all the criteria of a genetically engineered product . It contains synthetically produced modified mRNA packaged within lipid nanoparticles that have the ability to transfect our cells.

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because it circulates in our body and in our cells without being noticed as foreign – unlike the particles of conventional vaccines


    It’s not a “vaccine”, because in 2021, the purpose of vaccination was revised and its definition changed. According to the new “standard”, “vaccines” do not need to create immunity specifically against a disease, but are only required to elicit an immune response, even if this response is non-specific or adverse.

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because upon entry into our cells, the modified mRNA hijacks our cells to force them to produce foreign proteins, the nature of which is partially unpredictable.

    It’s not a “vaccine”, because after receiving a mRNA-based injection, we are initially still considered “unvaccinated”. It will take another two weeks before any medical authorities will consider you as “vaccinated”. As a result, reports on adverse events (including hospitalization and death) that may occur within those first two weeks post-vaccination will simply not be counted, if reported at all. Likewise, it is difficult to argue for any claims for compensation.


    It’s not a “vaccine”, because you are intended to receive boosters on a regular basis. These repeated injections lead to the non-stop production of the antigen, possibly several antigens. This differs from a natural infection, in which the antigen invades our body occasionally and transiently. This ongoing presentation of the same antigen inevitably weakens our immune system.

    It’s not mRNA
    Many vaccines require multiple doses and/or boosters.

    Covid vaccines do not lead to non-stop anyone antigen production. This is evidenced by waning antibody levels that increase upon re-inoculation.
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    Many vaccines require multiple doses and/or boosters.
    Sucks
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    Why?
    I explained why..those repeated injections lead to continual production of the antigen.
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