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    any problems with doing the skullcrushers standing up?

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    Originally Posted by Johnny778877 View Post
    any problems with doing the skullcrushers standing up?
    I don't think they are skull crushes once you stand up lol At that point your doing an over head tricep extension or some sort of french press.

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    damn so how should i fix this

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    Originally Posted by Johnny778877 View Post
    damn so how should i fix this
    Well whats the reason why you cannot do them lying down?

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    i dont have a flat bench just a bench press so i cant really get a full ROM on it

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    Originally Posted by Johnny778877 View Post
    i dont have a flat bench just a bench press so i cant really get a full ROM on it
    If your bench looks like this....



    You can turn around with your head laying where you would normally be sitting

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    Hey Charlie what do you think

    accidentally reset bench to 160 when I meant to do 150. (failed 170 twice). I'm pretty sure I'll fail 170 again if i just keep progressing (go to 165 next workout)

    Do you think I should go to the 150 next workout? Do 160 again? Or split the difference and do 155?

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    nah its got a leg extension thing on the end

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    Originally Posted by BuffMaltese View Post
    Hey Charlie what do you think

    accidentally reset bench to 160 when I meant to do 150. (failed 170 twice). I'm pretty sure I'll fail 170 again if i just keep progressing (go to 165 next workout)

    Do you think I should go to the 150 next workout? Do 160 again? Or split the difference and do 155?
    Personally, i would split it and go with 155. Only other option i would suggest would be to go down to 150 next time though, which would honestly be the safest bet. Going up to 165 so soon i dont see being a wise choice if you have failed at 170 twice, not enough recovery and work time. As long as you push forward, this is not a failure, just a small setback.

    Really though, make sure to focus on form too, and other variables as well (rest between sets, the pause, breathing during the concentric portion, etc...) Improve on one thing every time in some way, and you will get past it.

    When you DO work back up to 170, do what you need to to get into the right state of mind. Get a pre-workout meal, listen to your favorite pump up music, take 5 min rest between sets, what ever you need to do to get psyched.
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    Hey guys!

    I've been in and out the gym for some time (like 3 years), mainly because of injuries. Unfortunatelly I didn't get good advice when I started, what caused me to injury my shoulders (yes, plural, although the right one hurts more nowadays) and my left wrist (I've got a small cyst there, but the doctor said it's too small to be removed).

    I'm doing an ABC2x right now, but I'm not doing great on my results. Last time I bulked (clean bulk, about 10-20% caloric surplus) I've gained about 7kg, about 3cm in arm and wooping 6cm on my waist (or belly, don't know, the lower portion). That seemed too much fat for too little mass gain. I was on Rippetoe's Novice training for almost 5 months, but the injuries kept holding me back.

    Do you recommend me to do this workout as it is, or any change should be made? My shoulder hurts a little (on the front area, just in the middle of the whole shoulder), and my wrists feel sore but doesn't really hurt at the moment (used "Acheflan" and immobilizator for 1 month).

    Here's a picture of where my shoulder usually hurts (doctors couldn't figure, x-rays and ultrasound couldn't find a problem).


    I just took some picture on internet, the bursitis stuff is not diagnosed

    Anyway, I'm 5'11" and 145lbs, 33cm flexed arm (around 30cm relaxed), and 75cm waist (again, under the belly button). Yeah, kind of skinnyfat (also watched that video). I'm on a caloric surplus, on a total of 2800kcal, being P - 160g / C - 340g / F - 90g. Any thoughts on this?

    Thank you very much and sorry for the long post

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    my spine feels like **** today after squating today would any of use recomend quiting or should i just keep on doing it at work through the pain it originally started yesterday when i was in class we sat on a chair for 5 hours straight. ill be posting a vid tomorrow maybe someone can critique my form i literally fell st the ground due to the pain could it be hernia what are the signs

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    does any one know a subsitute to skull crushers i just dont feel my triceps no matter how hard i try

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    Subbed to thread. Sht looks confusing so I'll be reading, and watch the vid later. Is this program for beginners who've never lifted? haven't lifted since highschool and that was only 2 months of lifting.

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    Originally Posted by moballer View Post
    does any one know a subsitute to skull crushers i just dont feel my triceps no matter how hard i try
    Did you watch jasons video about full ROM barbell skullcrushers? You should DEFINITELY be feeling it in the triceps.
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    Originally Posted by Saucen View Post
    Did you watch jasons video about full ROM barbell skullcrushers? You should DEFINITELY be feeling it in the triceps.
    ive watched but i forgot so ill watch it again today i hurt my spine today from squating could i replace squats with full rom leg presses 5 sets of 5. i rep back

    trying to look like i lift crew aussie

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    Originally Posted by Johnny778877 View Post
    i dont have a flat bench just a bench press so i cant really get a full ROM on it
    just do close grip bench press .

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    Originally Posted by moballer View Post
    ive watched but i forgot so ill watch it again today i hurt my spine today from squating could i replace squats with full rom leg presses 5 sets of 5. i rep back

    trying to look like i lift crew aussie
    dejavu . squat is a full body exercise , while leg press only works legs . hack squat .

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    just snapped my back FML now its time to find a way out of snap city
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    just snapped my back FML now its time to find a way out of snap city
    Ouch man. Sorry to hear that. Were you just lifting to heavy or do you think it was more about improper form?

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    Originally Posted by moballer View Post
    does any one know a subsitute to skull crushers i just dont feel my triceps no matter how hard i try
    skullcrushers hurt my shoulders so I do overhead tricep extensions with a DB instead

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    Anyone here using an EC stack? Have you found it to help your workout if you take it just before?
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    Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    dejavu . squat is a full body exercise , while leg press only works legs . hack squat .
    If you hurt your spine go see a doctor, you obviously had bad form so i would see what a doctor says before resuming any lifting.

    Replied to the wrong post, but it's for the guy who hurt himself.
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    Originally Posted by iBeastMode207 View Post
    If you hurt your spine go see a doctor, you obviously had bad form so i would see what a doctor says before resuming any lifting.

    Replied to the wrong post, but it's for the guy who hurt himself.
    ^^^This. If it is actual "Pain" you are experiencing, especially in the spine, seek a doctor asap to make sure there are no impending issues.

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    Is this program good if i have no previous lifting experience? I read the first 2 pages and it sounds like the intended target was for people who had been lifting for 6 months--->year.

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    Is this program good if i have no previous lifting experience? I read the first 2 pages and it sounds like the intended target was for people who had been lifting for 6 months--->year.
    I'd start the program with 3x5 if you have NO lifting experience.

    5x5 is alot of volume.
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    Originally Posted by ImInTHIS View Post
    Is this program good if i have no previous lifting experience? I read the first 2 pages and it sounds like the intended target was for people who had been lifting for 6 months--->year.
    Depends what your current age, fitness level and mobility is like .

    I myself would just start with the bar and increase from that but in Jasin;s video he recommends to put heaps of weight on bar right away before you start program and
    work out your 1 rep max , use 75% of that weight .
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    Originally Posted by ImInTHIS View Post
    Is this program good if i have no previous lifting experience? I read the first 2 pages and it sounds like the intended target was for people who had been lifting for 6 months--->year.
    Try Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe or something similar first just to get a good grounding in what is essentially the most important and basic factors first

    Big Compound Lifts
    Proper Form
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    This is for those who already have a decent foundation in weight training. I would recommend waiting on this program if you are truly new. Too much volume to START the learning process IMO

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    Originally Posted by Charlie581 View Post
    Try Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe or something similar first just to get a good grounding in what is essentially the most important and basic factors first

    Big Compound Lifts
    Proper Form
    Nutrition
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    This is for those who already have a decent foundation in weight training. I would recommend waiting on this program if you are truly new. Too much volume to START the learning process IMO
    Where is it located? I'm looking but can't find it.

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    Bump. Where can I find Mark's starting strength program guys?

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    Bump. Where can I find Mark's starting strength program guys?
    http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

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