** KNEE DRAGGERS UNITE ** Part VIII - I'm Stumped

[happylifter]

First 600 mi service for my FZ6R is coming up. The place I bought it from quoted me at over $200 (fkn lol) and Iron Pony (a motorcycle gear shop for the unawares) is quoting me at $99 + parts. I looked up a video on youtube of a guy performing his first 600mi service but I have a feeling it will be cheaper Iron Pony to do it for me. All is needed is an oil change, clean the chain, and re-lube. I have everything tools wise but I'd still need oil, a filter, a bike stand, and the stuff needed to change/lube the chain so it's looking to be more expensive for me doing it myself.

Thoughts?

I do plan to buy a stand in the future to make storage and swapping out my exhaust either but I can't get one at the moment. All future oil changes will likely be done by me.

well you should really clean/lube your chain more often than every 600 miles all it is is a can of chain cleaner £5 and a can of chain lube £8

heck i know a lot of lads who even run there bikes on car oil as its cheaper and does the same job but even then including the stand you should be able to do everything for well under £100 a stand is £30-40 oil and filter another £30

[elephino]

heck i know a lot of lads who even run there bikes on car oil as its cheaper and does the same job but even then including the stand you should be able to do everything for well under £100 a stand is £30-40 oil and filter another £30

Don't. Motorcycle oil is formulated to lubricate the clutch as well, something car oil is not meant to do. Over time, your clutch will not be happy with you.

[BDTrr]

don't. Motorcycle oil is formulated to lubricate the clutch as well, something car oil is not meant to do. Over time, your clutch will not be happy with you.

this!!!

[DLM012]

At the very least a rear stand is necessary for any bike owner.

The 1000k (600m) service is pretty easy. Like you said, it's basically an oil & filter change and a chain lube & adjustment. You'll be doing those quite regularly so you might want to do it this time. If not definitely do the next one. $99 plus parts isn't bad IMO. Shops in my area charge about $85 an hour so that's not bad.

Do you have a service manual? I'd get one since working on bikes is so easy and it'll save you a tonne of money in the long run.

I've come to the conclusion that I'll do it myself for sure

well you should really clean/lube your chain more often than every 600 miles all it is is a can of chain cleaner £5 and a can of chain lube £8

heck i know a lot of lads who even run there bikes on car oil as its cheaper and does the same job but even then including the stand you should be able to do everything for well under £100 a stand is £30-40 oil and filter another £30

After doing some research I was awared on that (lubing more often)

Don't. Motorcycle oil is formulated to lubricate the clutch as well, something car oil is not meant to do. Over time, your clutch will not be happy with you.

Ok will do

This is my list of everything for my first service please offer recommendations if something looks off:

chain lube/cleaner (glowing recommendations): http://www.amazon.com/DuPont-Teflon-...pr_product_top

oil: http://www.amazon.com/Castrol-06078-...pr_product_top

oil filter: http://www.amazon.com/KN-204-Motorcy...z6r+oil+filter

rear stand: http://www.amazon.com/CHN-RSW-1-Whee...pr_product_top

oh and a drain pan

http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-17942-Bl...=oil+drain+pan

Is that all I need? $132 w/free 2 day ship sounds good to me

Also considering Mobil oil. Too many recommendations not to check it out despite the price

http://www.amazon.com/Mobil-98JA11-R...pr_product_top

[BDTrr]

Yup, everything looks good except your chain lube isn't a cleaner. I've always used kerosene to clean my chain. You can get it cheap at a paint store. Just put it in a spray bottle and you're good to go. And I highly recommend a grunge brush to clean the chain. It makes everything SO much easier. You can usually get them for like $4 at CycleGear.



Oh and one more thing, when you're cleaning and lubing your chain DON'T DO IT WITH THE ENGINE ON. Always do it with the engine off, transmission in neutral and spinning the tire by hand. Many fingers have been cut off doing it the former way. I'd also put a bunch of shop towels down on the ground under the chain or you'll get kerosene all over the floor. And wear latex gloves. No point getting toxic chemicals on your hands.

[DLM012]

Yup, everything looks good except your chain lube isn't a cleaner. I've always used kerosene to clean my chain. You can get it cheap at a paint store. Just put it in a spray bottle and you're good to go. And I highly recommend a grunge brush to clean the chain. It makes everything SO much easier. You can usually get them for like $4 at CycleGear.



Oh and one more thing, when you're cleaning and lubing your chain DON'T DO IT WITH THE ENGINE ON. Always do it with the engine off, transmission in neutral and spinning the tire by hand. Many fingers have been cut off doing it the former way. I'd also put a bunch of shop towels down on the ground under the chain or you'll get kerosene all over the floor. And wear latex gloves. No point getting toxic chemicals on your hands.

I read that it cleans/lubes all-in-one. You spray on once to clean/wipe down then you spray on again to lube. I'll take your word for it though.

With your other suggestions, will do. People have talked about cleaning the chain with cardboard under them and I have tons of boxes laying around so I'll probably do it that way. Repped for advice brah I really appreciate it. I'm all for diy stuff granted I can't damage something beyond repair.

EDIT: Added all of your recommendations to my cart:

-grunge brush
-kerosene
-box of gloves
-spray bottles

Now at roughly $200 in my cart. Not bad considering that almost half of that stuff I'm buying can be reused and save me money in the long term.

[elephino]

I read that it cleans/lubes all-in-one. You spray on once to clean/wipe down then you spray on again to lube. I'll take your word for it though.

With your other suggestions, will do. People have talked about cleaning the chain with cardboard under them and I have tons of boxes laying around so I'll probably do it that way. Repped for advice brah I really appreciate it. I'm all for diy stuff granted I can't damage something beyond repair.

EDIT: Added all of your recommendations to my cart:

-grunge brush
-kerosene
-box of gloves
-spray bottles

Now at roughly $200 in my cart. Not bad considering that almost half of that stuff I'm buying can be reused and save me money in the long term.

Looks good, bro. Word of caution: don't strip or over-tighten your oil pan bolt or your oil filter. Easy for folks to think they have to be hella tight, but the crush washer does its job. When you take the bolt out, find the washer (don't let it fall in your drain pan and get lost), and record the size. Flip it over and reuse it, and order some spares for the next oil change.

[DLM012]

Looks good, bro. Word of caution: don't strip or over-tighten your oil pan bolt or your oil filter. Easy for folks to think they have to be hella tight, but the crush washer does its job. When you take the bolt out, find the washer (don't let it fall in your drain pan and get lost), and record the size. Flip it over and reuse it, and order some spares for the next oil change.

So about how much should I tighten it? Hand tight and proceed to use the tool to tighten further, then one last small crank?

Would rep but on spread

[cunfewzed]

Don't. Motorcycle oil is formulated to lubricate the clutch as well, something car oil is not meant to do. Over time, your clutch will not be happy with you.

Been running Rotella T6 for years. But who was clutch slip? Stuff is awesome.

In b4 great oil debate of 2014.

[DLM012]

Been running Rotella T6 for years. But who was clutch slip? Stuff is awesome.

In b4 great oil debate of 2014.

[elephino]

So about how much should I tighten it? Hand tight and proceed to use the tool to tighten further, then one last small crank?

Would rep but on spread

No worries.

There will be torque specs online for your bolt (you have a torque wrench?) it's usually like 17-20 ft/lbs, not much. The filter, just rub a little new oil around the gasket with your finger and hand tighten. If it weeps, give it another 1/8-1/4 turn.

[elephino]

Been running Rotella T6 for years. But who was clutch slip? Stuff is awesome.

In b4 great oil debate of 2014.

SV doesn't have enough power to slip the clutch.

[cunfewzed]

SV doesn't have enough power to slip the clutch.

I'm disappointed in you.

T6 is all over that clutch like a garage on a fire....

[elephino]

I'm disappointed in you.

T6 is all over that clutch like a garage on a fire....

Source: my wife has a SV. And i got a dirtbike out of that garage fire

[DLM012]

No worries.

There will be torque specs online for your bolt (you have a torque wrench?) it's usually like 17-20 ft/lbs, not much. The filter, just rub a little new oil around the gasket with your finger and hand tighten. If it weeps, give it another 1/8-1/4 turn.

I do but I have no idea how to measure it.

[jcranston]

I'm disappointed in you.

T6 is all over that clutch like a garage on a fire....

Lulz! oNspread...

[cunfewzed]

Source: my wife has a SV. And i got a dirtbike out of that garage fire

That you did. Still blown away by that deal.

[elephino]

I do but I have no idea how to measure it.

You set it to the desired torque, and then while you're tightening the bolt it "breaks" with a click when you've applied the preset amount of torque. Stop there.

That you did. Still blown away by that deal.

I am too man. He's changing oil, filter, plugs, and tuning the carbs for me right meow. Gonna ride her tomorrow and bring her home Sunday. WOOOOOOO!

[happylifter]

Don't. Motorcycle oil is formulated to lubricate the clutch as well, something car oil is not meant to do. Over time, your clutch will not be happy with you.

well they run turbo bikes and suffer no clutch slipps so it works for them

[samuelbrah]

Hey fellas I need your opinion. Looking to pick up this slip on for the d675. What would look better out of my two choices. ... titanium or tungsten?

Finish:

Bike:

[darkninja67]

In on *******s that use Shure earphones thread.......











Westone owns your Honda riding pansy asses.....................

[elephino]

well they run turbo bikes and suffer no clutch slipps so it works for them

I can't speak to that. Could be a dry clutch, could be an aftermarket, could just work fine. I ran car oil in my 675 and clutch slipped like a sonofabitch. You might get away with it, you might not. Don't wanna start a debate, just throwing the fact out there.

[plsbh]

Hey fellas I need your opinion. Looking to pick up this slip on for the d675. What would look better out of my two choices. ... titanium or tungsten?

Choose the one you want, they all would work with the bikes colors already.

[ArryRedknapp]

Is a Honda Rebel a good first bike?

I prefer cruisers to sportbikes and I'm ultimately looking to upgrade to a Stryker/Speedmaster

Thoughts?

[WeDoPullups]

i aint mad son, or should i say XO. we on dat officer time now

yeeaahh buddy

what branch? what mos?

I'm a chair force airborne special diver cook.

[Reef58]

Is a Honda Rebel a good first bike?

I prefer cruisers to sportbikes and I'm ultimately looking to upgrade to a Stryker/Speedmaster

Thoughts?

Not a bad choice. Look at the Nighthawk also. They tend to be low miles, so usually knowing a bit about a carb is helpful

[ArryRedknapp]

Not a bad choice. Look at the Nighthawk also. They tend to be low miles, so usually knowing a bit about a carb is helpful

Ok cool.

I have the cash to splash on a more impressive bike like a Bolt, but I live in NYC so I'm fairly sure I'll get some bumps from cabbies and housewives in GL450s pretty early on.

[occy27]

Videopass for WSBK is about $40 you tightarse.

Not a fan of 7 week breaks between races though.

Was jealous and then I remembered everything in Australia is trying to kill you.

Unrelated: Can I come visit?

Yes. Americans and poms make great victims for our serial killers.

[happylifter]

I can't speak to that. Could be a dry clutch, could be an aftermarket, could just work fine. I ran car oil in my 675 and clutch slipped like a sonofabitch. You might get away with it, you might not. Don't wanna start a debate, just throwing the fact out there.

yeah think its more to do with there lock up clutches and the oil only staying in the bike for a weekend sort of thing as very very few are used at anything more than the strip

[Greek_Elite]

Looks good, bro. Word of caution: don't strip or over-tighten your oil pan bolt or your oil filter. Easy for folks to think they have to be hella tight, but the crush washer does its job. When you take the bolt out, find the washer (don't let it fall in your drain pan and get lost), and record the size. Flip it over and reuse it, and order some spares for the next oil change.

and make sure when you are unscrewing the bolt you lay on the ground next to it (or at least mentally envision the direction it'll be turning) so you actually turn to the left.... learned that the hard way in a real bad derp moment lulz