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    Originally Posted by RamataKahn View Post
    Both the Ukrainian President and the Foreign Minister have said there was no QPQ, bribery. or extortion. We already know the truth, and so do the majority of Independents and a growing number of Dems, so no it's not just us.
    Would you expect leaders of other country's to admit they were extorted by the US president? Can you tell me what possible good that would serve them?
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    Would you feel better if they called witnesses that presume trump is innocent?
    Sure call Mulvaney and Pompaeo.

    Who could possibly argue with this?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Would you expect leaders of other country's to admit they were extorted by the US president? Can you tell me what possible good that would serve them?
    Would you expect someone who hates trump would lie about him in order to get him out of office?
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    Senate should acquit ASAP. Dems set an evil precedent with this farce and it should go on longer. They can always bring in Chalupa and Biden, etc after. This sham needs to die and never happen again.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Would you expect leaders of other country's to admit they were extorted by the US president? Can you tell me what possible good that would serve them?
    That is not an argument,lol
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    Originally Posted by NitrogenWidget View Post
    Would you expect someone who hates trump would lie about him in order to get him out of office?
    Yes 1 person but not all that were in those hearings,there were way to many individuals.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Would you expect leaders of other country's to admit they were extorted by the US president? Can you tell me what possible good that would serve them?
    *attempted* to be extorted.

    It would show Ukraine isn’t corrupt, the president can’t be pushed around, even by the leader of the free world.

    But since nothing of the sort happened, of course Ukraine’s president would just tell us the truth.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Yes 1 person but not all that were in those hearings,there were way to many individuals.
    You have stated that he is incredibly polarizing.

    A LOT OF PEOPLE HATE TRUMP. He is an ass hole who hasn't been told no enough.

    The people in those hearings haven't found crimes committed by Trump or even unusual presidential activities, but things he has done that they don't like.

    It is quite ironic. The left is trying to wipe the board rather than elect someone that resonates with cetrists.

    The DNC has an easy way to win this without this retarded impeachment ploy.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Would you expect leaders of other country's to admit they were extorted by the US president? Can you tell me what possible good that would serve them?
    Wow what a strawman. If they gave first hand testimony of being the ones directly involved and bribed or extorted than it would be enough to show Trump is guilty.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    You have stated that he is incredibly polarizing.

    A LOT OF PEOPLE HATE TRUMP. He is an ass hole who hasn't been told no enough.

    The people in those hearings haven't found crimes committed by Trump or even unusual presidential activities, but things he has done that they don't like.

    It is quite ironic. The left is trying to wipe the board rather than elect someone that resonates with cetrists.

    The DNC has an easy way to win this without this retarded impeachment ploy.
    Polarizing is not one of my "go to" words, just saying.
    The 2 items mentioned yesterday were called "offenses" not crimes just so that we are clear.
    I just checked Trump's RCP numbers and they are flat at 44%, which is the same as always so no harm was done holding him accountable.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Polarizing is not one of my "go to" words, just saying.
    The 2 items mentioned yesterday were called "offenses" not crimes just so that we are clear.
    I just checked Trump's RCP numbers and they are flat at 44%, which is the same as always so no harm was done holding him accountable.
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    When the Senate absolves him of any wrong-doing, it'll be another glorious day in R/P Misc Paradise. Free front row seats to the Anti-Trumper Mental Gymnastics Championship.
    Trump told us he would be impeached in the house b4 the hearings and he told us the Senate would work for him, cough, i mean not impeach.
    You don't have to be psychic to know things.
    No one will use gymnastics because we know what the outcome will be Nostradamus.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Polarizing is not one of my "go to" words, just saying.
    The 2 items mentioned yesterday were called "offenses" not crimes just so that we are clear.
    I just checked Trump's RCP numbers and they are flat at 44%, which is the same as always so no harm was done holding him accountable.
    I didn't say you sprout off "polarizing" continually. You might not even use the word.

    Offenses against dems does not constitute HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS.

    The harm done has nothing to do with presidential approval rates. It has to do with increasing the divide between left and right while violating constitutional principles.

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    Originally Posted by RamataKahn View Post
    Wow what a strawman. If they gave first hand testimony of being the ones directly involved and bribed or extorted than it would be enough to show Trump is guilty.
    That's where we stand with the lefties today. First hand evidence; transcript, Zelensky's own words, zero first hand knowledge...it all doesn't count but someone's "presumption" does. LMFAO pathetic lefties.

    Now the lefties talking points are "Zelensky is weak and won't stand up to Trump". ****ing pathetic yesterday at the hearings when the drama filled libtard painted a Stockholm syndrome like picture by actually saying "Trump towering at 6'4" (lefties even frauding Trump's height to make an emotional argument), next to the 5'11" Zelensky gave off fearful power vibes over Zelensky."
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    Originally Posted by SaltyDog920 View Post
    That's where we stand with the lefties today. First hand evidence; transcript, Zelensky's own words, zero first hand knowledge...it all doesn't count but someone's "presumption" does. LMFAO pathetic lefties.

    Now the lefties talking points are "Zelensky is weak and won't stand up to Trump". ****ing pathetic yesterday at the hearings when the drama filled libtard painted a Stockholm syndrome like picture by actually saying "Trump towering at 6'4" (lefties even frauding Trump's height to make an emotional argument), next to the 5'11" Zelensky gave off fearful power vibes over Zelensky."
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Yes 1 person but not all that were in those hearings,there were way to many individuals.
    WTF are you talking about?
    it was all democrat called witness.
    republicans were not allowed to call any witnesses.
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    The only bipartisan vote the dems could get right now is against impeachment and that is why Nancy has backpedalled on when she said that the process would have to be a bipartisan effort.

    Nancy said today that the dems have been trying to impeach Trump for 2 and a half years. Hence all the fabrications. Doesn’t help their credibility.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    The only bipartisan vote the dems could get right now is against impeachment and that is why Nancy has backpedalled on when she said that the process would have to be a bipartisan effort.

    Nancy said today that the dems have been trying to impeach Trump for 2 and a half years. Hence all the fabrications. Doesn’t help their credibility.
    This crop of Dem leadership never had any credibility or integrity
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    This crop of Dem leadership never had any credibility or integrity
    They have credibility with the dems and some Independents. But, less now as a result of impeachment and IG report and the other charades.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Would you expect leaders of other country's to admit they were extorted by the US president? Can you tell me what possible good that would serve them?
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    Dems Veronica Escobar and Jackson Lee purposely misquoted Trump’s call. He said “I want you to do “us” (our Country) a favor“, but they said Trump said “I want you to do “me” a favor.” This is not true.

    Intentional lies.

    CNN admits it.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-...ar-jackson-lee
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Dems Veronica Escobar and Jackson Lee purposely misquoted Trump’s call. He said “I want you to do “us” (our Country) a favor“, but they said Trump said “I want you to do “me” a favor.” This is not true.

    Intentional lies.

    CNN admits it.

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    It's a **** show because they know no one reads the corrections.
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    It's a **** show because they know no one reads the corrections.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Dems Veronica Escobar and Jackson Lee purposely misquoted Trump’s call. He said “I want you to do “us” (our Country) a favor“, but they said Trump said “I want you to do “me” a favor.” This is not true.

    Intentional lies.

    CNN admits it.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-...ar-jackson-lee
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Would you expect leaders of other country's to admit they were extorted by the US president? Can you tell me what possible good that would serve them?
    Nah. Only "career patriots" on the LEFT in our country are leaders worthy of the appeal to authority fallacy. A PRESIDENT of an entire country elsewhere is not credible to his word at all.
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    So it's looking like the Republicans won't allow any witnesses to be called and will quickly end the trial.

    That's sure to be a great look for Trump and serve him and his fellow republicans in 2020. "It's a witch hunt but we won't let anyone close to the president testify, nor will we release any requested documents, to show it's a witch hunt."

    The campaign ads write themselves. Just like the Biden ad with all the world leaders laughing at Trump.

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    So it's looking like the Republicans won't allow any witnesses to be called and will quickly end the trial.

    That's sure to be a great look for Trump and serve him and his fellow republicans in 2020. "It's a witch hunt but we won't let anyone close to the president testify, nor will we release any requested documents, to show it's a witch hunt."

    The campaign ads write themselves. Just like the Biden ad with all the world leaders laughing at Trump.

    Gonna be buriful.
    The leaders of France and canada laughing at Trump

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    The leaders of France and canada laughing at Trump

    Christ you are a pussy



    Weird you neglected to mention that it was also the leaders of Holland and the UK. Plus the ENTIRE UN laughing at him ealrier in the year.

    He's clearly seen as the phuking joke that he is.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    So it's looking like the Republicans won't allow any witnesses to be called and will quickly end the trial.

    That's sure to be a great look for Trump and serve him and his fellow republicans in 2020. "It's a witch hunt but we won't let anyone close to the president testify, nor will we release any requested documents, to show it's a witch hunt."

    The campaign ads write themselves. Just like the Biden ad with all the world leaders laughing at Trump.

    Gonna be buriful.
    Why would the senate even begin to entertain this bullchit? Doing so would give it a legitimacy that it doesn't deserve and set the precedent that a purely partisan house can impeach a potus for made up bullchit and then the senate will take it seriously.... no American should want that but you TDS *******s are so deep down your rabbit hole you can't see that
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