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    Originally Posted by Nofearlivelife View Post
    wtf and you were in bed?


    ****ing hate you
    LOL, yeah woke up at 11am, ate breakfast, hung out on the couch, had lunch, took a 3 hour nap. Hit the gym and came back and it was 3100. Can't wait to see the numbers when im actually doing my normal routine
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    Never said it was my thread and there are way to many lols and inconsistencies to point out. Thanks for thinking your counter was any good when it just provided comedy.
    That wasn't meant to counter you or humor you. I'm on YOUR side and you're not getting that dude. You're attacking me for wanting to help people and save them a few bucks. A good number of posters here do that in the supplement section. Buying something that's not necessary. If you have the money why not but if it's only going to mess with your head (as you've admitted) then why bother? Honestly, I sincerely apologize if I came off rude or confrontational to you. I'm not here to make enemies. I'm only here to learn and give advice on what I've learned (the hard way).
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    Originally Posted by Nofearlivelife View Post
    apparently theres 3 versions of Bodybugg SP... v2 ...and v3


    which oine is the best one?
    sp is the one where it syncs with your phone. V3 is basically the same thing but will require you either plug in your device to the computer or purchase a seperate watch to display the readings. Your choice entirely. Both are on sale right now v3 for 119 and sp2 for 142. Pm me or just ask for the promo code in here if interested
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    At 22 maybe $150 is a lot of money to you. For many of us it's not. Ever spent over $100 on a nice dinner?
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    Originally Posted by Trillios View Post
    Is it really TERRIBLE for me to care enough to sway people away
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    Hate me if you want I'm only going to continue helping where I see fit.

    Well, at least you are being honest finally. You are not a troll. Then you were feeling trolish. You have no problem with me or anyone using the device. Now you are trying to sway people away.
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    Originally Posted by Trillios View Post
    Not everyone who has posted in the bodybugg bodymedia threads previously owned one. Is it really TERRIBLE for me to care enough to sway people away from buying a device that will give them a number close to the stickies' calculations? I mean, ****, I get it, not my money why do I care, right? That's not how I see it and I'm sorry if that bothers some of you. It's almost like promoting a supplement line! Again, I'm not trolling. Just trying to save people some money. I gain NOTHING out of doing this. Hate me if you want I'm only going to continue helping where I see fit.

    Lovingit you're also falling victim to the scale. Don't let it mess with your head. Check the mirror for a while (LOL almost sounds like I'm promoting mirrors).

    inb4 everyone buys more mirrors
    Telling people, hey listen, you don't need to spend money on this if you can't spare the cash (though I think most people aren't so retarded that they can't figure this out for themselves and they probably don't need you to save them) is different than saying it's "ridiculous" to buy one. One way is helpful, the other is ridiculing people for choosing to buy one.

    Thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind. =)
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    Originally Posted by Trillios View Post
    I'm on YOUR side and you're not getting that dude
    I'm telling people to buy it and you're trying to sway people away. Dude, you're a comedian.
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    Originally Posted by Ghosting View Post
    Well, at least you are being honest finally. You are not a troll. Then you were feeling trolish. You have no problem with me or anyone using the device. Now you are trying to sway people away.
    My definition of a troll is those OPs in red making ridiculous obvious troll threads (possibly from misc). I am not that. Idk if you'd call anyone else a troll who pokes fun with 1 or 2 posts in a iifym thread but I wouldn't. That's just fun between posters. I have no personal problems with you and don't want any. By that I mean any grudge or ill will of any kind because of miscommunication. I already said my piece on why I was trying to sway people from buying the device.

    Originally Posted by lovingit View Post
    Telling people, hey listen, you don't need to spend money on this if you can't spare the cash (though I think most people aren't so retarded that they can't figure this out for themselves and they probably don't need you to save them) is different than saying it's "ridiculous" to buy one. One way is helpful, the other is ridiculing people for choosing to buy one.

    Thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind. =)
    You're 100% correct and after re-reading my previous posts I did come off ridiculous myself.
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    Originally Posted by Ghosting View Post
    I'm telling people to buy it and you're trying to sway people away. Dude, you're a comedian.
    I don't get you. I'm sorry, but you're cutting pieces out of my paragraph and changing their meaning. Either that or you're misunderstand my message to you. I'm on your side as part of the nutrition community. People like you and me help others with our knowledge. I was only swaying them away from spending money. I'm really not trying to be funny lol.
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    Originally Posted by BradleyT74 View Post
    At 22 maybe $150 is a lot of money to you. For many of us it's not. Ever spent over $100 on a nice dinner?
    I have spent that much on a dinner, yes. While I don't think $150 is much (even though I'm on a savings plan for college and other expenses), I think otherwise for this kind of product. My opinion of course.
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    why the fuk are you guys arguing about this in here? If you think it's a waste of money create another thread for it. This thread is for people who have this product/are looking to purchase it. Keep it up and negs coming your way
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    Originally Posted by Trillios View Post
    I don't get you. I'm sorry, but you're cutting pieces out of my paragraph and changing their meaning. Either that or you're misunderstand my message to you. I'm on your side as part of the nutrition community. People like you and me help others with our knowledge. I was only swaying them away from spending money. I'm really not trying to be funny lol.
    It's $150 ffs. If $150 breaks someones bank then..doubt they have plans to buy one of these. Also if you've noticed people in thread tend to buy off of eBay @ even cheaper prices. In the end I can probably make half of what I spent by selling the thing. No point in swaying people from buying something that may help them. It's not like it's a completely useless device.
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    there are cheaper options. For example, wait for it to go on sale. Which I did and I got the thing for a fraction of the cost.
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    Originally Posted by Trillios View Post
    My definition of a troll is those OPs in red making ridiculous obvious troll threads (possibly from misc). I am not that. Idk if you'd call anyone else a troll who pokes fun with 1 or 2 posts in a iifym thread but I wouldn't. That's just fun between posters. I have no personal problems with you and don't want any. By that I mean any grudge or ill will of any kind because of miscommunication. I already said my piece on why I was trying to sway people from buying the device.


    I was going to stop, but feel like I should respond. I for a long time defined a troll as some that makes an OP that is controversial, offensive, or baits people. Over time I have seen some many people call posters trolls that so much as disagreed with them. So, my definition changed. I don't hold grudges from thread to thread and usually don't hold a grudge in the same thread for more than a few mins unless they keep going, which is not the case here.

    I've said it before, I may get angry easy, but I'm also quick to let something blow over, apologize, or forgive. If you feel like it is necessary to be critical of the device in this thread, I have no problems with that. I got my irritation out and honestly don't care about it anymore (not saying you will, just sayin'). Also, thank you for saying I have knowledge. I don't really think I do but will take whatever compliment I can get.

    Bottom line is I needed it. It wasn't a simple matter of me using common sense and using the formula in the sticky (as retarded as that seems). I can see by the under eating in this thread, I wasn't the only one.
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    Originally Posted by Rasc170 View Post
    why the fuk are you guys arguing about this in here? If you think it's a waste of money create another thread for it. This thread is for people who have this product/are looking to purchase it. Keep it up and negs coming your way

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    Originally Posted by Rasc170 View Post
    why the fuk are you guys arguing about this in here? If you think it's a waste of money create another thread for it. This thread is for people who have this product/are looking to purchase it. Keep it up and negs coming your way
    That's actually the best post I have read in the last 3 pages.
    "I want to buy a bugg." - "You don't need it, bruh." - "It is proven to work and I got money to spend." - "Nu-uh! You don't need it! Don't you dare to decide yourself what you are going to do with your money!"

    **** this.

    Edit:
    "formulas work just as well, guys"-guys: no, they don't. At least not for everyone.
    They estimate me a good 500-1000 kcal over what I actually expend.
    3500 kcal maintenance my ass.

    That said: I don't wear my armband every day anymore, either. I got a pretty good grip of what my expenditure is on various days. I just plan to wear it if something drastic in my lifestyle changes.

    Do I regret the ~200 bucks I spent on the thing (including subscription, overseas shipping, ...)?
    Hell no. Second best piece of tech I have ever bought.
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    The problem with formulas is
    1. some are outdated and not based on LBM+ many people dont have an accurate BF assessment.
    2. The activity multiplier is too subjective and open to interpretation

    1.2 = Sedentary (Little or no exercise and desk job)
    1.3-1.4 = Lightly Active (Little daily activity & light exercise 1-3 days a week)
    1.5-1.6 = Moderately Active (Moderately active daily life & Moderate exercise 3-5 days a week)
    1.7-1.8 = Very Active (Physically demanding lifestyle & Hard exercise or sports 6-7 days a week)
    1.9-2.0 = Extremely Active (Hard daily exercise or sports and physical job)

    What if you have a desk job but workout hard daily?
    What if you workout 2x a week but are very active?
    What if your hard exercise is weight training and someone else's is cardio?
    What if you think you are engaging in hard exercise but it is really light of vice versa?
    What constitutes a physically demanding lifestyle compared to moderate?
    What is a physical job? Painter, shopping cart pusher, carpenter, or furniture mover?

    MY BMF showed me my calorie need has very little to do with my weight training and is much more lifestyle based.
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    I'm considering a BodyBug as I read that other thread I think ghosting made?

    Should I go the BodyBug or bodymedia?
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    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    The problem with formulas is
    1. some are outdated and not based on LBM+ many people dont have an accurate BF assessment.
    2. The activity multiplier is too subjective and open to interpretation
    Exactly. I exercise 7 days a week, but sit at the ass most of the time. The calculators put me at 3500 kcal expenditure with that data.


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    Hi hankst,

    You should try the equation I use

    EER = [662 - (9.53 x age)] + PA x [(15.91 x weight/kg) + (539.6 x height/m)]

    PA
    Sedentary (typical daily living activities) - 1.0
    Low active (plus 30-60 min moderate activity) - 1.11
    Active (plus >/ 60 min moderate activity) - 1.25
    Very active (plus >/ 60 min moderate activity and 60 min vigorous or 120 min moderate activity) - 1.48

    Plus is on top of sedentary daily activities

    Give that a try!
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    2. The activity multiplier is too subjective and open to interpretation


    MY BMF showed me my calorie need has very little to do with my weight training and is much more lifestyle based.
    I agree. My days have way too much variance in them to not use it. My cal expenditure varies by 400-700 some days. I can't look at a day and think well legs is 300 more so I'll put 300 more in my diet. I think I was just being emo about this. I really doubt I'm going to be satisfied with an average. I like knowing what it is day to day.
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    Hi hankst,

    You should try the equation I use

    EER = [662 - (9.53 x age)] + PA x [(15.91 x weight/kg) + (539.6 x height/m)]

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    Sedentary (typical daily living activities) - 1.0
    Low active (plus 30-60 min moderate activity) - 1.11
    Active (plus >/ 60 min moderate activity) - 1.25
    Very active (plus >/ 60 min moderate activity and 60 min vigorous or 120 min moderate activity) - 1.48

    Plus is on top of sedentary daily activities

    Give that a try!
    Again, what constitutes moderate vs vigorous activity?
    Grocery shopping? Walking on treadmi at 3.0, 4.5, jogging at 6.5? Lifting (differences in traning intensity).
    I dont think we are good estimators of this. I fee like I bust my butt when I ift, but have found I burn more going to the grocery store.
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    Na, i got my Ki Fit off eBay and when it arrives i will prob buy a 6 month subscription as im low on money atm.
    Oohhh Okay, d'you really need the subscription to use it?
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    Do any of you use IF?

    hankst your post about Martin's 3:1 ratio of muscle to fat as opposed to my 1:3 ratio really got me thinking that I should give IF a shot

    any opinions from the bmf/bb/etc crew??
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    Oohhh Okay, d'you really need the subscription to use it?
    Yh man u need a subscription to sync it all up to see your calories bur'nt etc.
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    Do any of you use IF?

    hankst your post about Martin's 3:1 ratio of muscle to fat as opposed to my 1:3 ratio really got me thinking that I should give IF a shot

    any opinions from the bmf/bb/etc crew??
    I do IF; not helpful with fat:muscle ratio though, sorry!
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    Originally Posted by tanikR32 View Post
    Do any of you use IF?

    hankst your post about Martin's 3:1 ratio of muscle to fat as opposed to my 1:3 ratio really got me thinking that I should give IF a shot

    any opinions from the bmf/bb/etc crew??
    I think it's more about nailing your daily surplus and training than IF magic, to be honest.

    Originally Posted by SwoleMe View Post
    Hi hankst,

    You should try the equation I use
    Again, who defines types of activity?
    I'd rather just wear my armband when I'm unsure .
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    Originally Posted by Trillios View Post
    Not everyone who has posted in the bodybugg bodymedia threads previously owned one. Is it really TERRIBLE for me to care enough to sway people away from buying a device that will give them a number close to the stickies' calculations? I mean, ****, I get it, not my money why do I care, right? That's not how I see it and I'm sorry if that bothers some of you. It's almost like promoting a supplement line! Again, I'm not trolling. Just trying to save people some money. I gain NOTHING out of doing this. Hate me if you want I'm only going to continue helping where I see fit.

    Lovingit you're also falling victim to the scale. Don't let it mess with your head. Check the mirror for a while (LOL almost sounds like I'm promoting mirrors).

    inb4 everyone buys more mirrors

    Not everyone can use the calculations and get some thing close to what the BMF gives. Do you also go around posting, telling people not to buy supplements/clothes/food/movies/etc. that you don't agree with?
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    Originally Posted by Matt1991 View Post
    Yh man u need a subscription to sync it all up to see your calories bur'nt etc.
    Argghhh, that's balls! I might pay the £150 for it on Amazon then get the £12 a month membership...Cheers buddy!


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    Originally Posted by chaz1172 View Post
    Argghhh, that's balls! I might pay the £150 for it on Amazon then get the £12 a month membership...Cheers buddy!


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