***Team G Official 2008 Cutting Contest Journal*** (LADIES)

[MommaJo]

BTW, for those who wonder why I eat canned fruit instead of fresh, I'm allergic to LOTS of fruit (including apples, pears, plums, cherries, and some others I'm too tired to think of). I can eat them if they have been heated enough to disintegrate the antigen, so even though I can't eat a fresh apple or drink freshly-squeezed apple juice, I can eat apple pie, canned apples, drink apple juice from a box, etc. I just get fruit that's canned in its own juice and doesn't have added sugar, otherwise I can only eat very few fruits raw.

[YMCA4ThisChick]

So, Day 1 is almost over....here's what I ate today, would love some feedback, especially on meal timing re: workout and carb/protein timing, since I'm somewhat manipulating the original meal plan.


Meal 1:
1/2 cup egg whites, 1 egg, about 1/2 cup boiled spinach, some mushrooms, 1/2 tomato, some chopped onions (omelet). 1/2 grapefruit.

Meal 2: 4oz grilled chicken breast, 1/2 cup (cooked) brown rice, 1 cup boiled cauliflower (that was a LOT of cauliflower to get down)

Meal 3: mixed greens, arugula, 1/2 cup 1% cottage cheese, 2 pear halves (canned in pear juice, no added sugar), with a bit of juice

Workout (see below)

Meal 4 (post-workout): protein shake w/ 1 scoop PVL (last scoop of this flavor! *sob*), 12 oz 1% milk, 1 banana, 1 tablespoon honey

Meal 5: mixed greens, arugula, half a can pink salmon, 1/2 orange, 1 canned pear half, 4 radishes, 2 tbsp orange soy vinaigrette (tastes as weird as it sounds, trust me; I think the pear was a bit too much, lol)

Meal 6: will have a protein shake w/ 8 oz 1% milk and 1 scoop Dymatize protein powder before bed


Total: 1670 calories, 28 g fat, 182 carbs, 22 fiber, 177 protein.

What do you think? I could up the calories a bit by using 1 cup brown rice or 1 cup cottage cheese instead of 1/2 cup. Is it necessary? (I'd definitely up both on days I box cuz I burn like 1000 calories there, but I'm talking about non-boxing days)





Workout: 15 mins elliptical (random at level 6), 15 mins stairmaster speed intervals at level 5, 15 mins elliptical (random at level 4). In between: 3 sets of 3 exercises for abs, biceps, and chest. See my BodySpace workout tracker if interested.

I see that you eat a lotta fruit, hehe. Veggies too.

Ok ok ok , well, according to www.UltraPrevention.com, when I entered all of your stats with a goal weight of 179, I got a caloric intake number of: 2006 for you. Thats all I know, lol. Is that too high?

[MommaJo]

I see that you eat a lotta fruit, hehe. Veggies too.

Ok ok ok , well, according to www.UltraPrevention.com, when I entered all of your stats with a goal weight of 179, I got a caloric intake number of: 2006 for you. Thats all I know, lol. Is that too high?

Yeah, I dunno, my buddy who's really into fitness (and is cutting himself now) and I played around with some calculators and got a range of 1750-1950 calories to lose at my current activity level. So I guess I can get to that range by simply doubling the cottage cheese amount, which would also up my protein nicely (up to 1770 calories and 190 g protein) . And then on boxing days, I would also double the amount of brown rice at meal 2 and have a glass of juice throughout my workout, and then I'm up to like 2000 calories. Seems like it would be ok, but any more input from someone more experienced than myself?

[YMCA4ThisChick]

Yeah, I dunno, my buddy who's really into fitness (and is cutting himself now) and I played around with some calculators and got a range of 1750-1950 calories to lose at my current activity level. So I guess I can get to that range by simply doubling the cottage cheese amount, which would also up my protein nicely (up to 1770 calories and 190 g protein) . And then on boxing days, I would also double the amount of brown rice at meal 2 and have a glass of juice throughout my workout, and then I'm up to like 2000 calories. Seems like it would be ok, but any more input from someone more experienced than myself?

Ok and thank you for the reply. I got that link from my sister, but MarvelComicGirl who has accomplished losing a mass of weight ( from like 275 to 218 ) , may be able to help you better.

[Going4Lean]

Hi Girls!

Here is my totals for today, and this time I added in what I ate, so you can get an idea of how I eat...

Breakfast:
100% Premium Whey Protein-Vanilla, 30 gram(s)
Banana, fresh, 0.5 small
Cream of Wheat, 3 tbsp
Raspberries, 0.25 cup
Calcium Tablet, 1 serving

Snack: Almonds, Natural Whole, 1 oz

Lunch:
La Tortilla Factory, Whole Wheat Low Carb Tortilla, 1 serving
Chicken Breast, no skin, 3.5 ounces
Thai Stir Fry Vegetables, 1 cup
LA CHOY Teriyaki stir fry sauce, 0.33 tbsp
Newman's Own Salsa Mild, 1 tbsp

Snack: Kashi Trail Mix Chewy Granola Bar, Apple

Dinner:
Wild Pacific Salmon, 4 oz
Success Whole Grain Brown Rice, cooked, 0.75 cup
Newman's Own Salsa Mild, 1 tbsp
Baby Carrots, raw, 10 medium
Calcium Tablet, 1 serving

Workout: 8pm

Snack:
*make into a shake*
100% Premium Whey Protein-Vanilla, 30 gram(s)
Dannon Light & Fit, Strawberry, 0.25 cup
Raspberries, 0.25 cup
Milk, 1%, 0.25 cup


Daily Totals:
Calories: 1,363
Fat: 33
Carbohydrates: 158
Protein: 125
Sodium: 870

Fitness: Treadmill, 35 minutes

[MarvelComicGirl]

Just popping in. I need to catch up on everything sorry

1700-1900 intake seems good.

Hey everyone have a great night got wrestling pics to edit woo

[YMCA4ThisChick]

Hi Girls!

Here is my totals for today, and this time I added in what I ate, so you can get an idea of how I eat...

Breakfast:
100% Premium Whey Protein-Vanilla, 30 gram(s)
Banana, fresh, 0.5 small
Cream of Wheat, 3 tbsp
Raspberries, 0.25 cup
Calcium Tablet, 1 serving

Snack: Almonds, Natural Whole, 1 oz

Lunch:
La Tortilla Factory, Whole Wheat Low Carb Tortilla, 1 serving
Chicken Breast, no skin, 3.5 ounces
Thai Stir Fry Vegetables, 1 cup
LA CHOY Teriyaki stir fry sauce, 0.33 tbsp
Newman's Own Salsa Mild, 1 tbsp

Snack: Kashi Trail Mix Chewy Granola Bar, Apple

Dinner:
Wild Pacific Salmon, 4 oz
Success Whole Grain Brown Rice, cooked, 0.75 cup
Newman's Own Salsa Mild, 1 tbsp
Baby Carrots, raw, 10 medium
Calcium Tablet, 1 serving

Workout: 8pm

Snack:
*make into a shake*
100% Premium Whey Protein-Vanilla, 30 gram(s)
Dannon Light & Fit, Strawberry, 0.25 cup
Raspberries, 0.25 cup
Milk, 1%, 0.25 cup


Daily Totals:
Calories: 1,363
Fat: 33
Carbohydrates: 158
Protein: 125
Sodium: 870

Fitness: Treadmill, 35 minutes

COOL! Thank you for the post! How are you feeling? Plenty energetic so far?

[Going4Lean]

COOL! Thank you for the post! How are you feeling? Plenty energetic so far?

Yep, never felt better! I no longer seem to have those afternoon down times, and I really like how my after dinner 'sugar craving' has disappeared. THAT was the toughest time of day for me!

It wasn`t until this week, that I finally broke down and bought the jug of protein powder. That sticker price and how it would taste, were a bit difficult to get over..but I finally bit the bullet and I really love the stuff! The protein smoothies with fruit are like having a dessert. Yum!

[YMCA4ThisChick]

What brand? I used to pop green tea pills, but ran out, and was actually thinking of getting some more. I just had a Diet Dr. Pepper today as far as caffeine goes (not a big tea or coffee drinker). The chocolate cherry flavor, quite good, I must say! BTW, I was peeing all day today! I kid you not, I came home at 4:10 PM after running some errands and then left at 5:45 to go to the gym..in between, I peed FIVE times! I suspect I'll have lost some water weight tomorrow, which is great, cuz I KNOW I am retaining some.



Heheh, thanks.

I ordered them via www.swansonvitamins.com for the best prices, but i order from them, because my family- immediate and distant- bulk order, and its way cheap at swanson. I guess any brand would work, I dunno. But i read up on green tea caps and green tea extract caps, and the extract is stronger, so i use that.

[Going4Lean]

Question:

How do I put a saying underneath my screen name? And please don`t say I need a bazillion reps to do it! Ha! Those darn reps sure put a damper on things, when you don`t have enough!!

[MarvelComicGirl]

Question:

How do I put a saying underneath my screen name? And please don`t say I need a bazillion reps to do it! Ha! Those darn reps sure put a damper on things, when you don`t have enough!!

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[Going4Lean]

Thanks Marvel! Once again, you are right there, with all the right answers!

[MarvelComicGirl]

Thanks Marvel! Once again, you are right there, with all the right answers!

Glad I could help

[c0ldhart]

This is rather unscientific, but my impression is that generally, losing your appetite signifies a slowing down in your metabolism, and regaining it means that your metabolism is revved up. So according to this theory, your losing your appetite because you have been eating very little for a few days in a row means your metabolism has slowed down to match your calorie intake, which wouldn't be a good thing. Of course, it could also be the psychological consequence of eating clean foods, which are, let's face it, often rather bland. I know I personally have a much easier time saying "no" to late-night hunger if all I have in the fridge is cottage cheese and vegetables than if there are things like bread, cheese, and other goodies. Anyway, as I said, that's just some theory I've gathered from reading random things in magazines and on fitness forums, so it may be totally off.

My 'gut instincts' always tell me that my metabolism is through the roof when I'm hungry right before next meal... and when i'm really on track i'm eating 6 times a day. I also find that my 'gut' tells me that i need to up my cals at that time, too. If I don't I'll feel like I'm CONSTANTLY hungry otherwise, then I don't feel like working out, etc. So Since Sept, I've gone from 1250 cals (CRAZY STUPID) to about 1900, give or take, and I think when I get home, I'll go to about 2100 to lose weight. When I was really low, I could literally FEEL my metabolism grind to a halt. Kinda weird, since I'd never experimented with the whole calorie control thing before. Now if I don't eat enough (6 meals at 300 cals a meal, you eat only 3 meals a day and you barely clear 1000 cals) because I get busy or my schedule is 'off', then I get sick really quick. sucks. In fact, right now I have a really bad cold b/c of that... when the reality of it is that it takes a lot of work to make/eat 6 meals a day, especially since I'm not at home yet. The good part is that it has really taught me the importance of eating enough. Plus it makes me wonder is some of my weight issues in the past were due to not eating enough versus eating too much.

Either way, I found your post interesting and I've felt the same way often... nice to know that maybe my 'gut' isn't too far off.

[jaim91]

Just wanted to wish you all the best of luck with your transformations!

I've spoken with many of your (through journals or the keto forum), and I know that each and every one of you is capable of achieving your goals. You're intelligent, supportive, enthusiastic and hardworking women. That's a recipe for success right there my friends.

So best of luck too all of you: "If you will it, it is no dream..."

[ggabri07]

BTW, for those who wonder why I eat canned fruit instead of fresh, I'm allergic to LOTS of fruit (including apples, pears, plums, cherries, and some others I'm too tired to think of). I can eat them if they have been heated enough to disintegrate the antigen, so even though I can't eat a fresh apple or drink freshly-squeezed apple juice, I can eat apple pie, canned apples, drink apple juice from a box, etc. I just get fruit that's canned in its own juice and doesn't have added sugar, otherwise I can only eat very few fruits raw.

Nice to see that I am not alone. I thought I was the only person that could not eat fruits. I only eat the one from the cans also

[rdf803]

Yes! Mid-workout snack can definitely contain protein! In fact, if I am having a LONG lifting session, I take a protein shake with me and drink it throughout the workout. So I would say a protein shake w/some honey would be your best bet. Try it and see if it helps with your energy level. If it doesn't, you can always do the juice thing for a while 'til your body adjusts, then try the protein thing again.

Ok, the headache and weakness are here, so the diet must be working....lol. However, I know that after 3 days or so, I'll be used to it. Monday will be the real challenge, since I have my first day boxing while on the diet, but I'm just planning to add extra carbs to my pre-workout meal and hopefully it will help. If it doesn't, I guess I could also consider bringing some juice with me in a bottle and drinking some halfway through it, since it's a 2-hour workout. What do you think about it? Or would you suggest a protein shake with something like a tbsp of honey instead? I'm not sure whether the mid-workout snack should contain protein or not.

[rdf803]

I'm in the same boat. My husband is VERY supportive, and my parents are actually coming around, too. I've been very careful not too push anything on them, but just to lead by example and try to make sure I never make anyone feel like I think I'm better...HOWEVER, family holidays where my aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. are around are very difficult. They just don't get it. It's really difficult because I want them to see how much better their lives would be if they changed a couple of habits. I will just try to stay positive and encouraging around them, and maybe eventually they will come around, too.

I can relate to being surrounded by people who do not live the same lifestyle as you do. Now that I eat healthy and know the way sometimes one uses food for emotional reasons, it is hard to see someone eating because they are depressed. I am surrounded by unhealthy food all the time, and at times it has caused me to become a bit isolated because I would just go to my room. I have never really discussed it with my family because i do not want to make them feel bad.

[YMCA4ThisChick]

I AM SO excited I woke up less two pounds! I am finally dropping! Whooooo Hoooooo!!! I cant wait to see what my next number will be for next weigh in. OMGosh I am just beside myself!

[YMCA4ThisChick]

Just wanted to wish you all the best of luck with your transformations!

I've spoken with many of your (through journals or the keto forum), and I know that each and every one of you is capable of achieving your goals. You're intelligent, supportive, enthusiastic and hardworking women. That's a recipe for success right there my friends.

So best of luck too all of you: "If you will it, it is no dream..."

Thank you jaim! We are women warriors with a full suit of armour and proud to hold the GLADIATORS name! This group ROX!

Yes! Mid-workout snack can definitely contain protein! In fact, if I am having a LONG lifting session, I take a protein shake with me and drink it throughout the workout. So I would say a protein shake w/some honey would be your best bet. Try it and see if it helps with your energy level. If it doesn't, you can always do the juice thing for a while 'til your body adjusts, then try the protein thing again.

I have heard that honey is energizing- Is that the reason you are recommending use of it? If not why then?...I am debating on getting some or not.

[MissThing]

hi everyone.

I feel like I'm about to get a cold/sore throat. i was planning do do some HIIT today but i'm not sure if i should:

- just stay home and re-hydrate (do HIIT tomorrow)

- or carry on on as normal but top up my vit c etc.

basically, I don't want to stop my activity but I don't want to make my self ill later.

[MommaJo]

Yes! Mid-workout snack can definitely contain protein! In fact, if I am having a LONG lifting session, I take a protein shake with me and drink it throughout the workout. So I would say a protein shake w/some honey would be your best bet. Try it and see if it helps with your energy level. If it doesn't, you can always do the juice thing for a while 'til your body adjusts, then try the protein thing again.

Great, I will try that.

[MommaJo]

I have heard that honey is energizing- Is that the reason you are recommending use of it? If not why then?...I am debating on getting some or not.

Well, I just use it as a source of quick carbs. I didn't want to use plain old table sugar because it's completely devoid of nutrients. RAW honey, however, is even rumoured to have medicinal properties. There is some info about it on this page, and the references point to legitimate sources (quite a few medical journals): http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...dspice&dbid=96

[rdf803]

MommaJo, my only suggestions are the following:

In Meal 4, I would guess that an ectomorph (naturally thin person who easily maintains low body fat) probably told you to have those kinds of things right after a workout, because that is what I was originally told, too. HOWEVER, having that right after a workout basically causes you to automatically store that extra sugar as fat. I would suggest perhaps having the fruit and honey BEFORE your workout if you need the energy. Might help you keep from feeling too weak, then just have the protein afterwards.

In Meal 5, I would cut out the fruit. Having simple sugars (fruit sugars) late in the day should be avoided IF possible. If you need that, then go right ahead.

Meals 1-3 and Meal 6 look PERFECT. Just my two cents!

So, Day 1 is almost over....here's what I ate today, would love some feedback, especially on meal timing re: workout and carb/protein timing, since I'm somewhat manipulating the original meal plan.


Meal 1:
1/2 cup egg whites, 1 egg, about 1/2 cup boiled spinach, some mushrooms, 1/2 tomato, some chopped onions (omelet). 1/2 grapefruit.

Meal 2: 4oz grilled chicken breast, 1/2 cup (cooked) brown rice, 1 cup boiled cauliflower (that was a LOT of cauliflower to get down)

Meal 3: mixed greens, arugula, 1/2 cup 1% cottage cheese, 2 pear halves (canned in pear juice, no added sugar), with a bit of juice

Workout (see below)

Meal 4 (post-workout): protein shake w/ 1 scoop PVL (last scoop of this flavor! *sob*), 12 oz 1% milk, 1 banana, 1 tablespoon honey

Meal 5: mixed greens, arugula, half a can pink salmon, 1/2 orange, 1 canned pear half, 4 radishes, 2 tbsp orange soy vinaigrette (tastes as weird as it sounds, trust me; I think the pear was a bit too much, lol)

Meal 6: will have a protein shake w/ 8 oz 1% milk and 1 scoop Dymatize protein powder before bed


Total: 1670 calories, 28 g fat, 182 carbs, 22 fiber, 177 protein.

What do you think? I could up the calories a bit by using 1 cup brown rice or 1 cup cottage cheese instead of 1/2 cup. Is it necessary? (I'd definitely up both on days I box cuz I burn like 1000 calories there, but I'm talking about non-boxing days)





Workout: 15 mins elliptical (random at level 6), 15 mins stairmaster speed intervals at level 5, 15 mins elliptical (random at level 4). In between: 3 sets of 3 exercises for abs, biceps, and chest. See my BodySpace workout tracker if interested.

[rdf803]

Technically, you can still work out...in fact, it might actually help that stuff work out of your system a little faster. If Zicam is available where you live, get some and take it TODAY! It will make your cold less severe and will also make it not last as long. My husband sold me on that stuff. It is amazing!

If you are feeling really run down, go ahead and take the day to rest. I know it's easier said than done to work out when you're feeling crummy. Hope you feel better soon!

hi everyone.

I feel like I'm about to get a cold/sore throat. i was planning do do some HIIT today but i'm not sure if i should:

- just stay home and re-hydrate (do HIIT tomorrow)

- or carry on on as normal but top up my vit c etc.

basically, I don't want to stop my activity but I don't want to make my self ill later.

[rdf803]

This is a cool little quiz. It will tell you whether you are an ectomorph, mesomorph, or endomorph, or a combination of two of them. Depending on your body type, your body will process nutrients differently, so it's a good idea to know your type. (Totally explains why my hubby, an ectomorph, can eat the same foods as me, an endomorph, but he'll maintain his weight and I will gain. Sheesh!) Anyway, check it out! There are other similar pages on the 'net, but this one appears to be fairly accurate.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/becker3.htm

[Mo_ria]

hi everyone.

I feel like I'm about to get a cold/sore throat. i was planning do do some HIIT today but i'm not sure if i should:

- just stay home and re-hydrate (do HIIT tomorrow)

- or carry on on as normal but top up my vit c etc.

basically, I don't want to stop my activity but I don't want to make my self ill later.

I hope you feel better!!! Sometimes working out makes me feel better when I am getting sick...it's kind of a toss up.
Sending well wishes your way...
Mo

[Mo_ria]

This is a cool little quiz. It will tell you whether you are an ectomorph, mesomorph, or endomorph, or a combination of two of them. Depending on your body type, your body will process nutrients differently, so it's a good idea to know your type. (Totally explains why my hubby, an ectomorph, can eat the same foods as me, an endomorph, but he'll maintain his weight and I will gain. Sheesh!) Anyway, check it out! There are other similar pages on the 'net, but this one appears to be fairly accurate.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/becker3.htm

Thanks for the link!
Apparently I am an endo/meso, just as I had suspected...

[rdf803]

Yep, me too. I seem to put on muscle fairly easily, but I also gain fat easily and it is super difficult to get it off! So I'm determined once I lose it this time, to KEEP it off! Don't ever wanna have to go through all this again!

Thanks for the link!
Apparently I am an endo/meso, just as I had suspected...

[Mo_ria]

Yep, me too. I seem to put on muscle fairly easily, but I also gain fat easily and it is super difficult to get it off! So I'm determined once I lose it this time, to KEEP it off! Don't ever wanna have to go through all this again!

Amen to that, sister!
Taking off all of this fat is hard as hell, and seems to get worse the older I get!