**Official Diablo III Thread**

[905brah]

if i bring my laptop to work (lol)

could i tether my phone and play this with minimal lag?

ping ..93ms

dl 1.09 Mbps

up 0.34 Mbps

just did a speedtest

alright, so nobody likes 905brah

feelsbadman

[nohomejerome]

Regarding the runes, are they interchangeable as in you can put them in one skill, take them out then use it in another skill? Or do you get more than one rune?

there is no runes
at certain levels you unlock new "runes" which u just click on to change what one you want for that skill
i think theres 5 different things for each skill

[ApeWearingASuit]

Pumped as all hell for this game. The only thing that kinda bugged me was the whole Magic Find system. IF I get the best Magic find gear I can find in order to find better weapons, I won't use those weapons because they have no magic find, and I want to keep getting better weapons... that I don't use. It just seems like a weird loop to me.

im pretty sure they're getting rid of the idea of having a dedicated "magic find" set

further, the best items in the game will be found on inferno difficulty, where it should be impossible to kill anything if youre not wearing your absolute best gear

[vopcho]

alright, so nobody likes 905brah

feelsbadman

i think u could, but it'd be really close. lag might spike really high occasionally

[Shoesfly]

Shoesfly,

Maybe you know this as well. How is the selling items/ auction items going to work. I read that you can sell for real money or something. Care to elaborate if you know.

Yea there's going to be 2 different auction houses for each region (EU, US, Asia, etc). One is for real money (RMAH = real money auction house), the other is for in-game gold.

Now the real money auction house is not as awesome as it sounds like. Sure you can find items and sell them for real world dollars, but in order to get the money transferred to your bank account, you have to pay a small fee and do a full paypal transaction for each item.

Once you sell an item on RMAH, Blizzard gives you two options:

1) Transfer the currency to your Blizzard pocket account
2) Transfer it through paypal to your bank account (with a fee attached)

If you choose (1), the dollars will be sitting on a blizzard account, and can only be used to buy items from the blizzard store. So you can buy their games, pets, Blizzcon tickets, merchandise etc. Once the dollars have entered this account, you can not get them paid out to you. They are bound to blizzard-only products, kind of like a giftcard. This means you can't just build up money by selling low value stuff, and then cash out a $1000 check after 12 months of farming.

So you can't have blizzard work as a banking system for your D3 item selling ventures, you have to choose paypal transfer for direct payout each time you sell an item. Now I can imagine that can be extremely tedious, if you sell a lot of stuff for $1, $2, $5 all the time, so the only time you really would want to use the RMAH is if you had something really valuable like a +$50 dollar item or something similar. All the low value items will probably be sold in the in-game Gold auction house instead.

So I doubt anyone is going to get rich off the RMAH. Maybe some Chinese venture capitalist who makes a business out of it. But not your average player. However what is LIKELY to happen, is that everyone is eventually going to store enough cash in their blizzard account, that they will be able to afford the D3 expansion pack and other future blizzard games with their D3-earned money. Smart move by Blizzard

Also, there will be no RMAH for Hardcore mode. Another smart move. Imagine the kid who spends $3500 dollars from his rich Dads credit card, on the best l33t gear for his hardcore monk on the RMAH, and then dies a few hours later due to a disconnect and loses everything . The QQ (and possibly lawsuits) would be unmatched in the history of videogaming.

[Confederate88]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post856070143

official Misc Guild thread

[RAMBO316]

Yea there's going to be 2 different auction houses for each region (EU, US, Asia, etc). One is for real money (RMAH = real money auction house), the other is for in-game gold.

Now the real money auction house is not as awesome as it sounds like. Sure you can find items and sell them for real world dollars, but in order to get the money transferred to your bank account, you have to pay a small fee and do a full paypal transaction for each item.

Once you sell an item on RMAH, Blizzard gives you two options:

1) Transfer the currency to your Blizzard pocket account
2) Transfer it through paypal to your bank account (with a fee attached)

If you choose (1), the dollars will be sitting on a blizzard account, and can only be used to buy items from the blizzard store. So you can buy their games, pets, Blizzcon tickets, merchandise etc. Once the dollars have entered this account, you can not get them paid out to you. They are bound to blizzard-only products, kind of like a giftcard. This means you can't just build up money by selling low value stuff, and then cash out a $1000 check after 12 months of farming.

So you can't have blizzard work as a banking system for your D3 item selling ventures, you have to choose paypal transfer for direct payout each time you sell an item. Now I can imagine that can be extremely tedious, if you sell a lot of stuff for $1, $2, $5 all the time, so the only time you really would want to use the RMAH is if you had something really valuable like a +$50 dollar item or something similar. All the low value items will probably be sold in the in-game Gold auction house instead.

So I doubt anyone is going to get rich off the RMAH. Maybe some Chinese venture capitalist who makes a business out of it. But not your average player. However what is LIKELY to happen, is that everyone is eventually going to store enough cash in their blizzard account, that they will be able to afford the D3 expansion pack and other future blizzard games with their D3-earned money. Smart move by Blizzard

Also, there will be no RMAH for Hardcore mode. Another smart move. Imagine the kid who spends $3500 dollars from his rich Dads credit card, on the best l33t gear for his hardcore monk on the RMAH, and then dies a few hours later due to a disconnect and loses everything . The QQ (and possibly lawsuits) would be unmatched in the history of videogaming.

hmmmm.... i see. sounds kinds stupid i guess. but i guess direct paypal deposit isnt bad if you want to sell something for like 50 bux. what would the fee be. probably a percentage of the 50. probably a ridiculous % lol

[bronze34]

^tbh i dont see any item going past 30$ in the first year of D3's RMAH, and even less on it's second year

[Madevilz]

is this site legit? http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/intro.aspx

says my notebook passes the test for D3, a bit above minimum.

[jkrohn]

^tbh i dont see any item going past 30$ in the first year of D3's RMAH, and even less on it's second year

Pieces of D2 gear sold for more than that in the early going. A friend of mine sold a Pally scepter for $140 early on. There are a lot of people out there with disposable income. Combine that with the way item stats are on rares, and the best rares become truly very rare.

[jkrohn]

is this site legit? http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/intro.aspx

says my notebook passes the test for D3, a bit above minimum.

What are your specs? I can play on my Zenbook (Integrated Intel® HD Graphics 3000) with everything on Low with Low FX on.

[jkrohn]

hmmmm.... i see. sounds kinds stupid i guess. but i guess direct paypal deposit isnt bad if you want to sell something for like 50 bux. what would the fee be. probably a percentage of the 50. probably a ridiculous % lol

For $50 you would incur a $1.25 listing fee from Blizzard leaving you with $48.75.
Paypal fee to receive that is $1.71, so $47.04 would make it to your account.

Cashing out is free if your paypal is liked to your bank account. Getting a check costs $1.50.

[jkrohn]

The biggest issue with the RMAH is the small transactions. Because of the $1.25 listing fee and the PayPal fees.

The PayPal fees consist of two parts. For the US these are a $0.30 fixed fee and a ~3% fee. The issue here is that if you receive $0.51, the paypal fees are $0.31 due to the fixed cost. If you receive $1 the fees are $0.33.

So if you look at the minimum RMAH listing of $1.50. (You would never actually try to cash this out as you would get nothing)
1) Blizzard takes $1.25 as the transaction fee
2) Paypal takes all of the $0.25 remaining.

Let's look at a $2 RMAH listing.
1) Blizzard takes $1.25 leaving $0.75, Paypal takes $0.32, you get $0.43

$3 RMAH listing
1) Blizzard takes $1.25, Paypal takes $0.35, you get $1.40

$5 RMAH Listing (starting to get better)
1) Blizzard gets $1.25, Paypal gets $0.41, you get $3.34

$10 RMAH listing
1) Blizzard gets $1.25, Paypal gets $0.55, you get $8.20

Just doing the math, anything under $5 on the RMAH isn't going to be worth it unless it is *really* easy to come by.

[lod254]

Yeah, I have no problem with runes being unlocked at different levels as long as they aren't pure upgrades to allow some customization (although I still think having them be valuable item drops would be cooler).

Excited to see what kind of other items become valuable in the economy. Do we know if charms are making a comeback, or if they have talked about other new drops?

I know I could find most of my questions by googling but discussing it on the misc is better =)

I'm not sure on charms, but I haven't seen them in beta or any Blizzard vids.

Please god let there not be charms. Filling my inventory with all but 2x3 spot for items would be painful just like in D2.

[sarodr44]

Tier 13-14 Barb looks sick.

[Shoesfly]

^ I somewhat wish they wouldn't have released that. Kinda ruins the suspension of finding new awesome gear when the game comes out, when you already know what the best stuff is going to look like.

Also why I'm staying away from playing the beta, because I'm afraid I'll get bored with the game before it's even out.

[seanb1979]

^ I somewhat wish they wouldn't have released that. Kinda ruins the suspension of finding new awesome gear when the game comes out, when you already know what the best stuff is going to look like.

Also why I'm staying away from playing the beta, because I'm afraid I'll get bored with the game before it's even out.

youll be seeing no-lifes getting that armor within a week, anyway, so youd be bound to see it in game before you get it yourself

[Shoesfly]

youll be seeing no-lifes getting that armor within a week, anyway, so youd be bound to see it in game before you get it yourself

I doubt anyone will have endgame armor in the first week after release. Maybe a month in, you'll start seeing the first people with more than a few pieces of rare endgame equip. But either way, I will be one of those no-lifers so the game can come at me Just don't want all the surprises ruined beforehand.

[bronze34]

Pieces of D2 gear sold for more than that in the early going. A friend of mine sold a Pally scepter for $140 early on. There are a lot of people out there with disposable income. Combine that with the way item stats are on rares, and the best rares become truly very rare.

lol that guy dun goofed what scepter was it? anyway i dont think anyone with a sane mind or poor wallet would wanna risk a 6$ loss with an item that might have better versions that could potentially sell for more in the future

I doubt anyone will have endgame armor in the first week after release. Maybe a month in, you'll start seeing the first people with more than a few pieces of rare endgame equip. But either way, I will be one of those no-lifers so the game can come at me Just don't want all the surprises ruined beforehand.

inb4 enigma unique armor as end game armor

[Shoesfly]

lol that guy dun goofed what scepter was it? anyway i dont think anyone with a sane mind or poor wallet would wanna risk a 6$ loss with an item that might have better versions that could potentially sell for more in the future



inb4 enigma unique armor as end game armor

I would seriously rage if they pulled off another retarded stunt like Enigma. That item pretty much ruined D2 singlehandedly.

One of the things I am mostly excited about, is what type stats we will see on gear. If they are creative enough to come up with something interesting that gives the game depth. Since there will be no charms, jewels, runes or runewords like in D2, the item stats has to have some seriously cool effects to make up for the lack of diversity.

[lod254]

I would seriously rage if they pulled off another retarded stunt like Enigma. That item pretty much ruined D2 singlehandedly.

One of the things I am mostly excited about, is what type stats we will see on gear. If they are creative enough to come up with something interesting that gives the game depth. Since there will be no charms, jewels, runes or runewords like in D2, the item stats has to have some seriously cool effects to make up for the lack of diversity.

I think it was Enigma + Unresisted damage + invincible tank that ruined D2.

[seanb1979]

I think it was Enigma + Unresisted damage + invincible tank that ruined D2.

all the hacked charms didnt help

[Madevilz]

What are your specs? I can play on my Zenbook (Integrated Intel® HD Graphics 3000) with everything on Low with Low FX on.

AMD Phantom Quadcore... cant remember exact model (not at home)
6gb ram
Radeon 5650

I can run Skyrim decently at medium, MW3 at high, and SC2 at high (medium on multiplayer).
Should I be able to play D3 at medium?

[w00tasaurus]

I'm not sure on charms, but I haven't seen them in beta or any Blizzard vids.

Please god let there not be charms. Filling my inventory with all but 2x3 spot for items would be painful just like in D2.

Yeah, the whole filling your inventory with charms was pretty dumb. Maybe it wouldn't be terrible if you could only have one at a time, or if there was an inventory slot for something like charms or "trinkets".

[lod254]

Yeah, the whole filling your inventory with charms was pretty dumb. Maybe it wouldn't be terrible if you could only have one at a time, or if there was an inventory slot for something like charms or "trinkets".

I'm ok with the charm bag type option. Maybe have 4 slots in normal, and 2 additional each difficulty defeated or something. It must be separate from normal inventory though.

[Olsonwa07]

I'm ok with the charm bag type option. Maybe have 4 slots in normal, and 2 additional each difficulty defeated or something. It must be separate from normal inventory though.

In a very old version of the beta, they had charms and it went into a sort of amulet that was separate from the bag space. It got cut out of release because the stats they were putting on the charms were crap, like +1 dex and other boring ****. Might see it later, but that's what I remember. Would rather not see charms in their old fashion like d2. It would be fun however to have charms that did random procs or something, but woud ultimately get in the way of d3 being a potential esport. I know they said they didn't give a fuk about esports, but they would have potential with their arena format.

[torpstar711]

In, just placed my preorder. Haven't played an mmo since the beginning of cata (wow turned to ****) and all my fraternity bros have no idea what an mmo is so it's good to see some players that actually are in good shape.......and know what personal hygiene is.......hopefully.

[Onita]

In, just placed my preorder. Haven't played an mmo since the beginning of cata (wow turned to ****) and all my fraternity bros have no idea what an mmo is so it's good to see some players that actually are in good shape.......and know what personal hygiene is.......hopefully.

Good thing you didn't preorder an MMO then

[w00tasaurus]

In a very old version of the beta, they had charms and it went into a sort of amulet that was separate from the bag space. It got cut out of release because the stats they were putting on the charms were crap, like +1 dex and other boring ****. Might see it later, but that's what I remember. Would rather not see charms in their old fashion like d2. It would be fun however to have charms that did random procs or something, but woud ultimately get in the way of d3 being a potential esport. I know they said they didn't give a fuk about esports, but they would have potential with their arena format.

I'm not particularly attached to charms specifically, but without runes or charms they need to have some valuable loot that is outside of the normal armor and weapons equipment to find. I'm sure there will be, hopefully something completely new.

[torpstar711]

Good thing you didn't preorder an MMO then

Well yeah technically it's not an mmo but there's online and it's close enough, anything that isn't wow works with me.