ALCOHOLICS: RECOVERY & FITNESS (Serious Only Please)

[Baldiewonkanobi]

It's a miracle I tell ya, a freakin miracle. We have run out of new 'members'.

So all is well in Oz?

Baldie 29 + 10

[joed]

Lurk: OFF

Don't worry Snake, 'HE' will provide. (or whatever the saying is)

Been keeping a loose tab on this thread and wanted to ask something:
as part of her diet, wifey stopped drinking about 10 days ago. Since then she's been craving sugar like crazy, and that IS the appropriate word. hehe. I've been dry since my new year's resolution - 'to get healthier' - and I didn't go thru the sugar crazings as I recall.

Question is does anyone know what she might do to get past this period, a low calorie solution? She's trying to white knuckle it, but not doing that well, and sugar-free hard candy doesn't help.
Thanks.

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[plaskowski2002]

Lurk: OFF

Don't worry Snake, 'HE' will provide. (or whatever the saying is)

Been keeping a loose tab on this thread and wanted to ask something:
as part of her diet, wifey stopped drinking about 10 days ago. Since then she's been craving sugar like crazy, and that IS the appropriate word. hehe. I've been dry since my new year's resolution - 'to get healthier' - and I didn't go thru the sugar crazings as I recall.

Question is does anyone know what she might do to get past this period, a low calorie solution? She's trying to white knuckle it, but not doing that well, and sugar-free hard candy doesn't help.
Thanks.

Lurk: ON

she is craving sugar to make up for all the sugar in alcohol. i went through it too and i dont normally like sweets. in treatment i learned that its best she stays completely away from sugar. it keep that part of the brain active that has to do with the same pleasure centers that alcohol induces. NO SWEETS!
will someone please clarify what i just said.. or fix what i said wrong. i dont know something like this.

[bjc12]

she is craving sugar to make up for all the sugar in alcohol. i went through it too and i dont normally like sweets. in treatment i learned that its best she stays completely away from sugar. it keep that part of the brain active that has to do with the same pleasure centers that alcohol induces. NO SWEETS!
will someone please clarify what i just said.. or fix what i said wrong. i dont know something like this.

sounds correct to me was going to say the same thing. haven't experienced it but learnt about it in treatment

[chodan9]

We used to give new guys juice sometimes to get some sugar in them without overloading them. If her diet allows juices, try that

[chodan9]

she is craving sugar to make up for all the sugar in alcohol. i went through it too and i dont normally like sweets. in treatment i learned that its best she stays completely away from sugar. it keep that part of the brain active that has to do with the same pleasure centers that alcohol induces. NO SWEETS!
will someone please clarify what i just said.. or fix what i said wrong. i dont know something like this.

thats good advice for alky's like us I think, but it didn't sound like she was one, some sugar would be ok I think for a non-alcoholic, too much is bad for everyone though.

[plaskowski2002]

thats good advice for alky's like us I think, but it didn't sound like she was one, some sugar would be ok I think for a non-alcoholic, too much is bad for everyone though.

good point. i should have paid closer attention.

[thomashenry]

Anyone else ever dream at night of going off the wagon and for a moment there while waking up were ridden with shame and guilt?

I did that for the first 5 years or so of sobriety.

Baldie

I think about it from time to time and with 24 ys 11 dayS away I am sure I will think about it more vividly, but I believe it`s normal, and I do not have any guilt or shame, but thats me and yes I sometimes think WTF, i WOULD LOVE TO DRINK LIKE A GENTLEMAN AFTERALL IT`S BEEN A LONG TIME, but I know FOR me I cannot control my actions after the 1st one and I have zero desire to go through that living hell again, so why tempt fate, plus it`s much more fun dealing with life & all it has to offer, there is a bit of sarcasm in the last sentence

[marmadukemas]

Been keeping a loose tab on this thread and wanted to ask something:
as part of her diet, wifey stopped drinking about 10 days ago. Since then she's been craving sugar like crazy, and that IS the appropriate word. hehe. I've been dry since my new year's resolution - 'to get healthier' - and I didn't go thru the sugar crazings as I recall.

Question is does anyone know what she might do to get past this period, a low calorie solution? She's trying to white knuckle it, but not doing that well, and sugar-free hard candy doesn't help.
Thanks.

Hey thanks for stopping in and congratulations for giving abstinence a try. Sugar cravings come from body demanding sustitute for alcohol. The fact that you didn't have it as seriously could mean you are not as dependent as she, or it could just be that you don't really like sugars.

she is craving sugar to make up for all the sugar in alcohol. i went through it too and i dont normally like sweets. in treatment i learned that its best she stays completely away from sugar. it keep that part of the brain active that has to do with the same pleasure centers that alcohol induces. NO SWEETS!
will someone please clarify what i just said.. or fix what i said wrong. i dont know something like this.

I agree with the other clarification to plaskowski's post that should be fine to eat sweets if no alcoholism troubles. Personally, I find that dried fruit (high frutose) very satisfying for sweet tooth, and if you toss in a few chocolate chips, it isn't too bad, especially if you're willing to walk/run a few extra miles for the pleasure.

[joed]

Thanks fellas, much appreciated.

[cosmo123]

I did not notice this thread when I first signed up to BBC, but I am very glad it is here. I am 39 with a drinking history of about 25 yrs. Kept my drinking to just weekends for about 18 of those years but then, as the difficulties/responsibilities in my life started to pile up, I started to turn to the good ol' golden suds to numb the pain more and more and more. I have reached a point where I realized that I was no longer in control of the booze, it was in control of me, lots of wasted years, Many F-ups, but I'll spare the gory details. I am attempting a quit now, taking it a day at a time, but shooting for 30 days because in the past I always seem to slip and f**k up before hitting that mark. I think it would be a milestone for me.
The funny thing is that throughout my drinking life, I also continued to workout but as I aged the drinking increased and seemed to erase any benefits I was recieving from my workouts.

I am glad to find the lot of you guys here and find all of your stories very inspiring. My stinking thinking almost had me giving up on myself, telling me I was too old to change my body and get back into shape. I went from a 6'1 189# althetic person to a 6'1" 219# flabasouras in a very short amount of time it seems. Sorry for making this thread so long. I guess I just needed to start somewhere and get some of the crap out of my head.

I look forward to hearing more from and about you all and to a clear head, healthy body and mind.

Thanks for hearing me out.

[GreenWave1]

Welcome Cosmo. Congratulations on taking steps to change your life. It's not easy. Take it one day/hour/minute/second at a time as needed. When you start feeling weak, say a prayer, do some pushups, hit the heavy bag, whatever. Do something productive to change your focus from your addiction.

Keep us posted on your progress.

[chodan9]

welcome cosmo123!

[plaskowski2002]

I did not notice this thread when I first signed up to BBC, but I am very glad it is here. I am 39 with a drinking history of about 25 yrs. Kept my drinking to just weekends for about 18 of those years but then, as the difficulties/responsibilities in my life started to pile up, I started to turn to the good ol' golden suds to numb the pain more and more and more. I have reached a point where I realized that I was no longer in control of the booze, it was in control of me, lots of wasted years, Many F-ups, but I'll spare the gory details. I am attempting a quit now, taking it a day at a time, but shooting for 30 days because in the past I always seem to slip and f**k up before hitting that mark. I think it would be a milestone for me.
The funny thing is that throughout my drinking life, I also continued to workout but as I aged the drinking increased and seemed to erase any benefits I was recieving from my workouts.

I am glad to find the lot of you guys here and find all of your stories very inspiring. My stinking thinking almost had me giving up on myself, telling me I was too old to change my body and get back into shape. I went from a 6'1 189# althetic person to a 6'1" 219# flabasouras in a very short amount of time it seems. Sorry for making this thread so long. I guess I just needed to start somewhere and get some of the crap out of my head.

I look forward to hearing more from and about you all and to a clear head, healthy body and mind.

Thanks for hearing me out.

welcome cosmo123. yea this place is great! i found it about a month ago. i come here first thing in the morning everyday.

[bjc12]

welcome cosmo keep coming back

[Xtcme]

Clean and Sober for 5+ years. Peeps ask me what I used. Answer was ANYTHING. Peeps ask me what I do to stay sober, i answer ANYTHING!

[Freddie Beef]

Well, I have been sober since May of 05. My son was 6 months old and the next morning I went over to my moms(my wife took my son and left me that night) and looked him in teh eye and said never again. I am where I am at now because of alcohol. I was a slim trim 190 pounds and lost my job, house, fiance and drank all day everyday for almost 4 years, I ate like **** and took pills, any kind I can get, and almost died twice. I gained well over 200 pounds in those years. I have urges everyday to drink. I had replaced it with eating and have that under control(sorta) now, I still have my days but my son and future child need me to get my fatass in control. But one thing I liek about this thread is we all know how we feel. And the everyday struggle it is to NOT drink.

[Xtcme]

Well, I have been sober since May of 05. My son was 6 months old and the next morning I went over to my moms(my wife took my son and left me that night) and looked him in teh eye and said never again. I am where I am at now because of alcohol. I was a slim trim 190 pounds and lost my job, house, fiance and drank all day everyday for almost 4 years, I ate like **** and took pills, any kind I can get, and almost died twice. I gained well over 200 pounds in those years. I have urges everyday to drink. I had replaced it with eating and have that under control(sorta) now, I still have my days but my son and future child need me to get my fatass in control. But one thing I liek about this thread is we all know how we feel. And the everyday struggle it is to NOT drink.

Go to a meeting Sheesh. At 4 years having urges is still sick..In my opinion. I have been cured of the need to use anything.... I am just to the point of working on me now..Go to a meeting dude!

[Freddie Beef]

Go to a meeting Sheesh. At 4 years having urges is still sick..In my opinion. I have been cured of the need to use anything.... I am just to the point of working on me now..Go to a meeting dude!

You think I should, I still have really strong urges some days. I have to avoid any alcohol at all or I will drink whatever I see. It is bad. Meetings will help huh? I almost started to drink a couple of shots of Beam every night to help me sleep and my brother talked me out of it.

[plaskowski2002]

Clean and Sober for 5+ years. Peeps ask me what I used. Answer was ANYTHING. Peeps ask me what I do to stay sober, i answer ANYTHING!

yessss... i like your style and attitude.

[Xtcme]

You think I should, I still have really strong urges some days. I have to avoid any alcohol at all or I will drink whatever I see. It is bad. Meetings will help huh? I almost started to drink a couple of shots of Beam every night to help me sleep and my brother talked me out of it.

i dont think I know. Over 3 million healthy people cant be wrong. Meetings help. The 12 steps help.

i will break it down

1.Admit there is a problem
2.Find a higher power besides yourself (humility)
3.Quit doing all the work (humbleness)
4.get in touch of what made your life so ummanageable
5.Admit those things to another human being (weight lifted, inner peace starts)
6.Let your Higher power help you remove these defects of character (the bad habits, wrong thinking)
7.have higher power help you get over your short comings (mostly fear and pride)
8. Made a list of Peeps we shafted and became WILLING to make things right with em


Heres where the real work comes in

9. Make things right as long as your not gonna get hurt or hurt anyone else(if 1-8 are done before, this wont be that hard, dont over think it)
10. At the end of the day, think about how ya treated people and self, and make amends as soon as you can( maintainance step)
11.(continued maintainance) get out of your head daily, let your higher power direct your daily activites more
12. Haveing woken your ass up and become less selfish, start giving back to society and help other addicts that are just starting at step one


SEE. got it?


Do those steps at the same intensity that ya drank and did drugs, and I guarentee you, you will not have to drink again. Will bad things happen? Oh yea sure, life doesnt stop. But you will be better equipped to handle what life gives you


" 10% of life is what happens to a person, 90% is the attitude the person has
in dealing with the 10%"

[Freddie Beef]

IT seems to be a good idea. Thanks.

[plaskowski2002]

You think I should, I still have really strong urges some days. I have to avoid any alcohol at all or I will drink whatever I see. It is bad. Meetings will help huh? I almost started to drink a couple of shots of Beam every night to help me sleep and my brother talked me out of it.

when and if you dont think you need a meeting you probably do. so if your thinking about it then GO! your disease will try to fool you. it will tell you you dont need one. it sounds like your hanging on by a thread. you have got to get into some sort of program and work it.not drinking is one thing but we have to change the behaviors as well if not you will be miserable. they call that a dry drunk.... one who doesnt drink but all the behaviors are still the same. you really have to change evrything about yourself and that can be scarry. when i cleaned up i didnt have a clue who i really was. and when i found out i was so happy. but its tough and some people cant go through the emotional pain and that keeps them sick. you know its just too easy to pick up but phuck that! look where it got us. when i finally got clean after about 17 years of booze and weed, about 11 inpatient treatment centers etc. well that day was the first day of the rest of my life. and like i said earlier in a post you have to get the mental health aspect treated to because drinking and drugging in only a symptom of an underlying issue. so i went to counseling too and thats where the real work began for me. i wish you the best and hope to see you around here. there are good peeps here.3
and by the way what part of indiana are you from? i go to munster and visit my sister every fourth of july. i was born and raised in st louis and most of my relatives live in chicago. i love the mid west.

[Freddie Beef]

when and if you dont think you need a meeting you probably do. so if your thinking about it then GO! your disease will try to fool you. it will tell you you dont need one. it sounds like your hanging on by a thread. you have got to get into some sort of program and work it.not drinking is one thing but we have to change the behaviors as well if not you will be miserable. they call that a dry drunk.... one who doesnt drink but all the behaviors are still the same. you really have to change evrything about yourself and that can be scarry. when i cleaned up i didnt have a clue who i really was. and when i found out i was so happy. but its tough and some people cant go through the emotional pain and that keeps them sick. you know its just too easy to pick up but phuck that! look where it got us. when i finally got clean after about 17 years of booze and weed, about 11 inpatient treatment centers etc. well that day was the first day of the rest of my life. and like i said earlier in a post you have to get the mental health aspect treated to because drinking and drugging in only a symptom of an underlying issue. so i went to counseling too and thats where the real work began for me. i wish you the best and hope to see you around here. there are good peeps here.3
and by the way what part of indiana are you from? i go to munster and visit my sister every fourth of july. i was born and raised in st louis and most of my relatives live in chicago. i love the mid west.

I am in North Indy. My mom is in benton county and my younger brother is in lafayette. I got famliy all around here.

I know I still got a lot of problems and I think am going to go, I am sure I wont regret it. I appreciate the support in here.

[plaskowski2002]

i dont think I know. Over 3 million healthy people cant be wrong. Meetings help. The 12 steps help.

i will break it down

1.Admit there is a problem
2.Find a higher power besides yourself (humility)
3.Quit doing all the work (humbleness)
4.get in touch of what made your life so ummanageable
5.Admit those things to another human being (weight lifted, inner peace starts)
6.Let your Higher power help you remove these defects of character (the bad habits, wrong thinking)
7.have higher power help you get over your short comings (mostly fear and pride)
8. Made a list of Peeps we shafted and became WILLING to make things right with em


Heres where the real work comes in

9. Make things right as long as your not gonna get hurt or hurt anyone else(if 1-8 are done before, this wont be that hard, dont over think it)
10. At the end of the day, think about how ya treated people and self, and make amends as soon as you can( maintainance step)
11.(continued maintainance) get out of your head daily, let your higher power direct your daily activites more
12. Haveing woken your ass up and become less selfish, start giving back to society and help other addicts that are just starting at step one


SEE. got it?


Do those steps at the same intensity that ya drank and did drugs, and I guarentee you, you will not have to drink again. Will bad things happen? Oh yea sure, life doesnt stop. But you will be better equipped to handle what life gives you


" 10% of life is what happens to a person, 90% is the attitude the person has
in dealing with the 10%"

good **** brotha!

[GreenWave1]

Welcome Fred. You're 4 years in. I know it can be hard, but you've come this far, don't go back now.

[marmadukemas]

I am in North Indy. My mom is in benton county and my younger brother is in lafayette. I got famliy all around here.

I know I still got a lot of problems and I think am going to go, I am sure I wont regret it. I appreciate the support in here.

Hey 2bigFred, welcome and thanks for being real. Hope you got something you can use here. I can relate, I haven't used in 6+ yrs, and lately because of some life stress the idea of medicating actualy sounds plausible. It's been long enough that thinking the consequence through is harder too becuase I don't remember the negatives. Talking to other like minded people helps me stay grounded and remember why I gave it all up in the first place.

Best of luck and I hope you do it for you cause your family deserves the best you can give them

[Baldiewonkanobi]

Hey Fred,

Go to a meeting...I sat cold turkey for 9 months. All of my alkie snorting friends were gone from my life. My loving wife and kids did not fill that male bond thing I missed. I called the local AA number and asked when the next meeting was. The lady said "the teens meet tonight at 5pm". I was 40...think my voice expressed how F'ed up I was? Teen?? Anyway when I went to the mens group I had to get past the fact that the room was filled with other F'ed up men. I was very judgemental. Soon I fit in and was even doing 12th step calls at the Chino Men's Prison. Talk about male bonding...lordy lordy. There but one bad line or too much Jack go I.
My Bodybuilding compulsion became my new crutch and I am happily stuck here 29 years later.

Stay with us here...you are safe here.

Baldie

[Freddie Beef]

Welcome Fred. You're 4 years in. I know it can be hard, but you've come this far, don't go back now.

thanks bro, I never thought how much of a struggle it would be. IT runs harcare in teh family tho, my dad, all my uncles, my grandpa all were alcoholics.

Hey 2bigFred, welcome and thanks for being real. Hope you got something you can use here. I can relate, I haven't used in 6+ yrs, and lately because of some life stress the idea of medicating actualy sounds plausible. It's been long enough that thinking the consequence through is harder too becuase I don't remember the negatives. Talking to other like minded people helps me stay grounded and remember why I gave it all up in the first place.

Best of luck and I hope you do it for you cause your family deserves the best you can give them

My family gives me their best, ti is the least I can dofor them. And thanks.

Hey Fred,

Go to a meeting...I sat cold turkey for 9 months. All of my alkie snorting friends were gone from my life. My loving wife and kids did not fill that male bond thing I missed. I called the local AA number and asked when the next meeting was. The lady said "the teens meet tonight at 5pm". I was 40...think my voice expressed how F'ed up I was? Teen?? Anyway when I went to the mens group I had to get past the fact that the room was filled with other F'ed up men. I was very judgemental. Soon I fit in and was even doing 12th step calls at the Chino Men's Prison. Talk about male bonding...lordy lordy. There but one bad line or too much Jack go I.
My Bodybuilding compulsion became my new crutch and I am happily stuck here 29 years later.

Stay with us here...you are safe here.

Baldie

Thanks brother, I will definitly go to a meeting here soon, it wont hurt, lord knows I want a drink 24/7 even after all these years. Not like a fiend type want, but more like a man I could use a drink type thing.

[Baldiewonkanobi]

A FOB group should be a sub group. Although I am a pro AA guy, I welcome all other avenues of sobriety...most are now represented on this thread. I am no more sober than one day sober...

Baldie