★Early bird fantasy football discussion 2019★

[Tyler2106]

I guess maybe, because its the giants and they are 2-0 in SBs against the Pat's. However I'd still take the team that needs to score points and is capable against a subpar a secondary, than hoping the Pat's run it up out of spite.


Honestly Tyler didnt even make any analysis. Just said they would score 40 just because.

They are both + matchups. But given the choice between playing Diggs and keeping green or Gordon ROS, gimme Diggs and green.

Everything you've said about the Patriots tells me you don't follow them and just saying whatever pops in your head. Even your analysis of the Vikings is really weak. Have you watched them play? If you had you'd realize their MO is strong defense and run the ball down the opponents throat.

Vikings are averaging 191 yards passing a game with 5 passing TDs this season. That puts them almost dead last in both categories.
Patriots are averaging 279 yards passing a game with 10 passing TDs this season. The puts them top 10 in both categories. Not to mention, those stats were against bad teams, just like the Giants.
Tom Brady > Kirk Cousins

I'm not saying Gordon is guaranteed to score more points than Diggs this week. That's my opinion. What I was mainly getting at is your analysis or comments about both the Patriots and Vikings were so far from truth that I wanted to respond.

[HayZues Christi]

Viking are run first?? Wow... brilliant analysis.

No **** man. Throw out their game 1 against falcons which is an absolute outlier and they average 235 yards passing. With all their recent drama they clearly have a new emphasis on not completely abandoning the passing game. 300+ last week. Thielen got his last week, wouldnt be shocked to see them force feed Diggs a little against a secondary that allows for that.


Even at 230 and 5 split amongst just 2 targets > 280 and 10 amongst 5 or 6. Gordon remains a boom or bust flex play and definitely not a big enough upgrade over Diggs to warrant the trade.

I described a couple game scripts I definitely see possible. I could very well be wrong, but it's not from lack of applied reasoning.



Tom Brady > Kirk cousins. Wow.... bold statement.

With that said, how many tom Brady pass catchers have finished above thielen and Diggs last 2 years?



None.

[Jayarbie]

Everything you've said about the Patriots tells me you don't follow them and just saying whatever pops in your head. Even your analysis of the Vikings is really weak. Have you watched them play? If you had you'd realize their MO is strong defense and run the ball down the opponents throat.

Vikings are averaging 191 yards passing a game with 5 passing TDs this season. That puts them almost dead last in both categories.
Patriots are averaging 279 yards passing a game with 10 passing TDs this season. The puts them top 10 in both categories. Not to mention, those stats were against bad teams, just like the Giants.
Tom Brady > Kirk Cousins

I'm not saying Gordon is guaranteed to score more points than Diggs this week. That's my opinion. What I was mainly getting at is your analysis or comments about both the Patriots and Vikings were so far from truth that I wanted to respond.

The Eagles are the #1 rushing D in the league and their front 7 is the strength of the whole team. OTOH, their secondary is ravaged by injuries, especially at corner, and very beatable. This is a game where the Vikings are going to have to throw downfield.

[Iceman1800]

Thielen will be heavily owned in cash game dfs this week if anyone uses that for roster decisions

[Jayarbie]

What did you bid for Everett? I'm in the same boat, but our FAAB waivers are tonight, so I have to make my bid today. I rostered Herndon for $1 last week, too, so I have him as a backup plan as well.

I lost the bid. The engram owner bid $21. There was no way I was going that high to cover a bye week. Got Witten for $1 instead.

[bstudhero]

Got an offer on the table. My Amari Cooper straight up for his Melvin Gordon.

I'm fairly deep at WR but they've been a bit disappointing. I'm thinking if I do this trade I can ship out either Kerryon/Monty plus a WR for a better WR.

RBs: Kamara, Kerryon, Montgomery, McCoy
WRs: Amari, Juju, McLaurin, DJ Moore, Shepard, Sutton, Hollywood

Thoughts?

[Murph0408]

Got an offer on the table. My Amari Cooper straight up for his Melvin Gordon.

I'm fairly deep at WR but they've been a bit disappointing. I'm thinking if I do this trade I can ship out either Kerryon/Monty plus a WR for a better WR.

RBs: Kamara, Kerryon, Montgomery, McCoy
WRs: Amari, Juju, McLaurin, DJ Moore, Shepard, Sutton, Hollywood

Thoughts?

na no thanks

[sandcar3]

Got an offer on the table. My Amari Cooper straight up for his Melvin Gordon.

I'm fairly deep at WR but they've been a bit disappointing. I'm thinking if I do this trade I can ship out either Kerryon/Monty plus a WR for a better WR.

RBs: Kamara, Kerryon, Montgomery, McCoy
WRs: Amari, Juju, McLaurin, DJ Moore, Shepard, Sutton, Hollywood

Thoughts?

Not bad and I might take it, but I'd be worried about your WR's. Juju is under-performing but could slide into your WR1 and McLaurin could be your WR2, but I don't like trusting the Redskins for every week starters. The rest are fine but you'd be making decisions every week. Since you are willing to flip Kerryon or Monty for a WR, maybe you could do that in this trade. What does the dude's team look like? Maybe you could counter with Cooper and Monty for Gordon and a WR2/3 from him.

[Blasting]

Hunter Henry practiced in a limited capacity yesterday. Idk if he’ll play on Sunday but he’s definitely someone you should pick up if you’re struggling at tight end like a lot of people are.

[dhawkeye1980]

Dynasty ppr TE. Waller on a bye and he has been my most consisten TE by far

Graham v det
Olsen @TB
Walker @Den

[sandcar3]

Dynasty ppr TE. Waller on a bye and he has been my most consisten TE by far

Graham v det
Olsen @TB
Walker @Den

Olsen. TB isn't good against TE's and I think last week's performance was an outlier for Olsen, and they will likely force a few targets his way this week to make up for it. At least I hope all that is true as I'm in the same boat as you playing Olsen with Waller on his bye.

[Murph0408]

Dynasty ppr TE. Waller on a bye and he has been my most consisten TE by far

Graham v det
Olsen @TB
Walker @Den

delanie chirped up a bit about needing the ball more. squeaky wheel gets the grease this week

[bstudhero]

Dynasty ppr TE. Waller on a bye and he has been my most consisten TE by far

Graham v det
Olsen @TB
Walker @Den

I like any pass catchers against TB so I'm for Olsen here.

[Fiz-iks]

Hunter Henry practiced in a limited capacity yesterday. Idk if he’ll play on Sunday but he’s definitely someone you should pick up if you’re struggling at tight end like a lot of people are.

inb4 hayzeus starts offering Henry + Gore for Julio trades

[HayZues Christi]

inb4 hayzeus starts offering Henry + Gore for Julio trades

U miss 100% of the shots you dont take.

[SDOptimist]

I like any pass catchers against TB so I'm for Olsen here.

I have Olsen and Mark Andrews. Who should I roll with?

[Tyler2106]

Viking are run first?? Wow... brilliant analysis.

No **** man. Throw out their game 1 against falcons which is an absolute outlier and they average 235 yards passing. With all their recent drama they clearly have a new emphasis on not completely abandoning the passing game. 300+ last week. Thielen got his last week, wouldnt be shocked to see them force feed Diggs a little against a secondary that allows for that.


Even at 230 and 5 split amongst just 2 targets > 280 and 10 amongst 5 or 6. Gordon remains a boom or bust flex play and definitely not a big enough upgrade over Diggs to warrant the trade.

I described a couple game scripts I definitely see possible. I could very well be wrong, but it's not from lack of applied reasoning.



Tom Brady > Kirk cousins. Wow.... bold statement.

With that said, how many tom Brady pass catchers have finished above thielen and Diggs last 2 years?



None.

300 yards passing last week from the Vikings? That is good! Who did they play? Oh, yeah the Giants LMFAO...Diggs had 3 catches for 44 yards.

The game scripts you think could happen aren't backed by any evidence from previous games that would support your game scripts theories.

We can go back and forth, but I think we both have said what we wanted. Like I said before, one of us will be right and one of us will be wrong. I like Gordon a little more than Diggs this season. Vikings brought in Kevin Stefanski this year because he has a run first mindset, unlike last years OC who was pass first.

[Murph0408]

so i dig Golden Tate tonight in a spot where he's the only useful piece on the offense.

however would you start him over any of these gents? Basically, pick (2wr / 1FLX)

Robert Woods vSF
Fuller @KC
Tyreek vHOU
James White vNYG

[dhawkeye1980]

so i dig Golden Tate tonight in a spot where he's the only useful piece on the offense.

however would you start him over any of these gents? Basically, pick (2wr / 1FLX)

Robert Woods vSF
Fuller @KC
Tyreek vHOU
James White vNYG

Prpb start him over white, i dont see him getting a ton of work against the piss poor giants def. Although they have given up more passing yards to RB than running

[Tyler2106]

so i dig Golden Tate tonight in a spot where he's the only useful piece on the offense.

however would you start him over any of these gents? Basically, pick (2wr / 1FLX)

Robert Woods vSF
Fuller @KC
Tyreek vHOU
James White vNYG

Why do you like Tate tonight? His greatest benefit is also his greatest downfall. Being the only viable option on offense means the Patriots will focus on him more than anyone else. Playing in the slot means he'll get Jonathon Jones, who is playing lights out right now, but maybe he can do well?

To answer you question, I would start Woods, Fuller or Tyreek over Tate this week. If Tyreek plays, he starts. If Tyreek is out, I would say fire up Fuller for a shootout in KC. Woods would be a safe option as well against an average 49er secondary.

[Murph0408]

Why do you like Tate tonight? His greatest benefit is also his greatest downfall. Being the only viable option on offense means the Patriots will focus on him more than anyone else. Playing in the slot means he'll get Jonathon Jones, who is playing lights out right now, but maybe he can do well?

just volume. figure giants fall down early and jones spends the night throwing.

[HayZues Christi]

I think I'd start all of them over tate. Pat's make you play left handed. Even on a short week.


I believe NE is first team since like 1965 to not allow a passing TD in first 5 weeks.

[Jayarbie]

Mason Rudolph is actually practicing and hasn't been ruled out to play Sunday night. I'll believe it when I see it. Outside of the obvious that he was out cold even before his head bounced off the ground, this also isn't Ben we're talking about and Devlin Hodges wasn't exactly a downgrade of any sort in the game last week, so there should be some motivation on the Steelers part to see what Hodges can do with a full week to prepare when they can very easily write off sitting Rudolph as "being cautious". They clearly aren't contenders this year needing to go 9-2 the rest of the way to have a realistic shot at the playoffs.

[Jayarbie]

just volume. figure giants fall down early and jones spends the night throwing.

There will be passing game volume. Jones will be 8-40 with 6 picks.

[dupaloop3611]

burkehead out tonight. its Michel time boys!!!!

[Tyler2106]

burkehead out tonight. its Michel time boys!!!!

Exactly. For the Michel owners out there I hope Bolden doesn't vulture more TDs from him.

[Jayarbie]

burkehead out tonight. its Michel time boys!!!!

Inb4 Damien Harris 25-180-4.

[Tyler2106]

Inb4 Damien Harris 25-180-4.

Inb4 Damien Harris is a healthy scratch.

[HayZues Christi]

burkehead out tonight. its Michel time boys!!!!

I like james white tonight. Especially in ppr.

[rise21]

Gurley is questionable this week, do I wait and see about him, or risk it and start James White tn? My other option is Lindsay so I’m leaning wait til Sunday.