i agree w/ the others here. Shame and guilt can be a motivator, but no point dwelling there. Good job being gentle on yourself. The only thing I see missing from your plan is hitting a meeting or two. Own your f*@k up and move on.
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05-07-2011, 11:26 AM #3031Those who do not move, do not notice their chains. Rosa Luxemburg
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05-07-2011, 02:20 PM #3032Registered User
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there was a half full bottle of jim beam in my appt from a couple weeks ago, twas quite tempted but recalled the place and feelings it brings me to and poured it out n went to the gym
feltgoodman, yet i am craving
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05-08-2011, 04:18 AM #3033stretching blows
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people, places, and things.
sometimes we need to engage in a little environmental control. i don't hang around with drinkers. i don't keep booze in the house. i don't go to bars.
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05-08-2011, 05:09 AM #3034Registered User
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It seems that a lot of you guys use your faith in god to help you get through this? Does this mean an atheist like myself has no chance of winning this battle? I have been reading this forum for a year or so and it seems most of you guys use your faith in the higher power to get you through.
Do you have any pointers on what direction an atheist should take.
Thanks.
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05-08-2011, 06:46 AM #3035**S U P E R B E A S T**
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Having faith in God has been helpful to me, in all walks of life. I would recommend you go to a meeting and dig in. You can get sober without changing your beliefs.Originally Posted by NOPHLE
To whom much is given, much is expected.
Victory is reserved for those willing to pay its price.
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05-08-2011, 07:46 AM #3036Registered User
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Ever since my son Gabe died 4 years ago ( that was when I started to drink) I have found it hard to have any belief in a God at all. This has made it harder to do the steps in my case.
Just shut up and SQUAT!
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05-08-2011, 11:32 AM #3037stretching blows
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there is plenty in AA for the non-believer.
imo, the God angle is all about acceptance and humility. the individual needs to do all he can to bring about his sobriety. each and every day. then, when life throws little wrenches in the machinery, it's about understanding that i cannot control everything, and to not get all worked up about it.
it is one thing to put the drink down. that is the easy part.
it is quite another to be contented while doing so. that requires a different mindset.
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05-08-2011, 01:05 PM #3038Registered User
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Hey Forge, get up, dust yourself off, and start again. We all have that happen from time to time. We wonder just what was it really like. I had a friend who is an addict relapse the same way and for the same reason after four years. About 48 hours into it, he remembered why he quit. We are all here praying for you guy.Originally Posted by Forge3
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05-08-2011, 01:07 PM #3039Registered User
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In NA, all we have to believe in is a power greater than ourselves. I'm a non-believer but I believe in the program and energy of all the recoverying addicts together to help me do this. My morning prayer is nothing more than a repetition of our third step prayer ... take my will and my life, guide me in my recovery, and show me how to live, clean.Originally Posted by NOPHLE
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05-08-2011, 06:24 PM #3040Registered User
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AGREED!bravo!Gotta let go of the past and move on.Originally Posted by wolfpack7483
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05-08-2011, 06:26 PM #3041Registered User
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Bro,winning this battle is all in your head.believe in yourself and thats all the faith you need.Originally Posted by NOPHLE
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05-08-2011, 06:27 PM #3042Registered User
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thats the key.you gotta make positive changes.Originally Posted by boathead
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05-08-2011, 06:37 PM #3043Originally Posted by NOPHLE
Yes, go to a meeting (or 30), and listen. If you actually listen, you will hear the difference between faith in God, and faith in a higher power. Listening is the best thing you can do in the beginning. When you are ready to share, you will.If you poke a bear in the eye, expect a bear like response.
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05-08-2011, 06:55 PM #3044Progress not Perfection
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Read chapter 4 of the Big Book. Its the chapter to the agnostics.
A.A. is NOT a save your soul program. It is a save your butt program.
It is designed for all walks of life.
It doesnt matter if you come from Park Avenue or Park bench. It works.
Give it a try and if your not satisfied your misery is easily refunded.
www.aa.org/bigbookonlineLast edited by cowboybiker; 05-08-2011 at 07:03 PM.
Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude. – Thomas Jefferson
Be yourself; Everyone else is already taken. - Oscar Wilde
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05-08-2011, 11:03 PM #3045
^^^Right the hell on there! Gotta love that hard-core, old school program. Go to meetings, get a sponsor, work the steps. The rest will fall into place. I could have found a million reasons not to just shut up and listen. Anyone can find something in a meeting or in the Big Book to take issue with and use as an excuse to stay stuck. I had to want sobriety more than anything else for it to work. Really, what do you have to lose here? Keep it simple.
Those who do not move, do not notice their chains. Rosa Luxemburg
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05-09-2011, 06:52 AM #3046Saved
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Hey Forge,
You took a step backwards, but you learned something by doing it. Remember how bad it felt and use that memory next time you're thinking about going back.
You can do this.Jesus is my lifting partner.
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05-09-2011, 09:26 AM #3047Registered User
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going to an event tonight where there will be a sht ton of drinking, idk what to do
either pretend to be drinkin a jack n coke the whole night, or just try and limit myself
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05-09-2011, 09:44 AM #3048Registered User
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Bro, the limit yoursel doesn't work and I'm living proof of that. I've tried that and everytime, woke up in the ditch. Do you have a bud in the program that would go with you and ride herd with you? In my early days, I couldn't be around it because for some reason, it would make me crazy. I might not drink but it would make me crazy.Originally Posted by criminal4889
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05-09-2011, 10:07 AM #3049Registered User
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Day three. The mind is a strange thing. The desire to drink is there even though it always leads to pain. I think the first bit after a relapse must be tough. It is funny how the mind singles out whatever was enjoyable about it and excludes the dark side to it.
If you are suffering from serious medical concerns please be sure to check with your doctor.
My name is Mark.
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05-09-2011, 01:39 PM #3050**S U P E R B E A S T**
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My mind tended to embrace the dark side, or justify it. That's the definition of insanity. Doing the same thing, and expecting different results. We know what the outcome will be. We just think maybe this time it will be different.Originally Posted by Forge3
Good luck Forge. Learn from your errors, and get right.To whom much is given, much is expected.
Victory is reserved for those willing to pay its price.
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05-09-2011, 02:09 PM #3051How about not going.Originally Posted by criminal4889
If you poke a bear in the eye, expect a bear like response.
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05-11-2011, 07:37 AM #3052Saved
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What happened with this? Did you go?Originally Posted by criminal4889
That's addiction. It always seems like a good idea, until you do it.Originally Posted by Forge3
Jesus is my lifting partner.
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05-11-2011, 07:41 AM #3053Progress not Perfection
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Well you know what they say, if you go to a barber shop enough times, your gonna get a haircut.
go to a party when your still fresh your gonna drink.Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude. – Thomas Jefferson
Be yourself; Everyone else is already taken. - Oscar Wilde
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05-11-2011, 08:55 AM #3054Registered User
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Originally Posted by Meatpants
Originally Posted by GreenWave1
Some days the thought of drinking will seem repugnant and other times attractive. If I don't practice self-care and have activities and or hobbies that I am doing and enjoying the whole deck of cards can collapse.Originally Posted by cowboybiker
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05-11-2011, 12:06 PM #3055Progress not Perfection
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glad to see you backOriginally Posted by Oceanside
Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude. – Thomas Jefferson
Be yourself; Everyone else is already taken. - Oscar Wilde
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05-11-2011, 05:54 PM #3056**S U P E R B E A S T**
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Cunning and baffling?Originally Posted by Forge3
I have to agree with OS. Use it, and move on.To whom much is given, much is expected.
Victory is reserved for those willing to pay its price.
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05-12-2011, 05:07 AM #3057The show goes on
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one more day sober folks!
hope everyone is doing well!
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05-16-2011, 07:24 AM #3058Saved
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Checking in. Hope everyone had a great and sober weekend.
Jesus is my lifting partner.
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05-16-2011, 10:52 AM #3059Registered User
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WEll it has been determined I am going into a in paient program for 28 days then a half way house for sure. I am so scared of it all that I am panicky big time and thinking a lot of dumd thoughts.
Just shut up and SQUAT!
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05-16-2011, 10:57 AM #3060Registered User
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Hang in there guy. Sometimes time away from the source is a good thing to help clear your thoughts. Positive wishes your direction.Originally Posted by mutt7707
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