So the USS Liberty Truthers Were Right. Guess What? So are the 9/11 Ones

[metco]

So the problem with the crazy conspiracy troofers is it turns out they were right. Declassified Israeli cables and even the Jerusalem Post confirm that Israel attacked USS Liberty deliberately, it was not an accident. What? Forty years of saying no flag was visible on the LIberty and that it was an "accident" was a lie?

Fox News: "Ex-Navy Official: 1967 Israeli Attack on U.S. Ship Was Deliberate"

[Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Admiral Thomas] Moorer's panel suggested several possible reasons Israel might have wanted to attack a U.S. ship. Among them: Israel intended to sink the ship and blame Egypt because it might have brought the United States into the 1967 war.

It's called a false flag attack, exactly what "truthers" have been saying. That's also what Truthers say about 9/11.

For people who don't believe the official story about 9/11, the only question is who and why. For those who do, you need 9/11 101, and that's okay. Like the Liberty, the Lavon Affair was designed to keep troops friendly to Israel in Egypt, by bombing the UK and American embassies. No CT. Settled history. An Israeli defense minister had to resign over it.

USS Liberty, Lavon Affair. Anyone see a pattern here? Stab an ally in the back, blame Muslims. Then watch him do your fighting for you.

BTW, in the documentary of USS Liberty survivors The Day Israel Attacked America, the survivors who were attacked exonerate the Jewish people. Find out the criminals who did it, and set history straight.

For why Israel would want America in Iraq and the Middle East as a result of 9/11, we only need to look at the words of Zionist hawks within the Bush administration who were in key positions on 9/11. That means Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Dov Zakheim, Douglas Feith, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Scooter Libby, Eliot Abrams, full list here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project...administration

In 1998 Feith and Perle wrote a paper for Netanyahu, repeating the Israeli Neocon plan to bust up the Arab states into Sunni and Shiite warring factions, exactly what is happening today:

"Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right..." - "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm."

These guys were the Project for a New American Century "crazies" in Colin Powell's words. Note they occupied the levels of government necessary to manipulate the scheduling of the multiple war games which put most of the fighter interceptor fleet over Canada and the North Atlantic on 9/11, a major shortcoming in the air defenses never addressed by the 9/11 Commission.

And of course, Project for a New American Century member Dick Cheney allowed the incoming aircraft assumed to be Flight 77 to hit the Pentagon, when he had it locked on radar and was being asked if it should be shot down as it approached. If the "standing orders" had been shoot-down orders then it would have been shot down, therefore Cheney was being asked to countermand a stand-down order, 9/11 Commission Report. The Pentagon was hit a full half hour after the second tower had been hit, and all aircraft heading for protected airspace and not identifying themselves had to be assumed to be hostile.

The keys to the kingdom, and Israeli Mossad to step in and do the dirty work for 9/11. How much evidence do Americans need that false flag attacks are real?

If you don't believe it, listen to the USS Liberty survivors below. The same people who were calling USS Liberty "troofers" crazy and merely anti-semitic are the calling the 9/11 truthers crazy too. But guess what? The USS Liberty "troofers were right." And so are the 9/11 ones. Please sit down and study these. Unless we want to be the last free generation in America.

New documentary The Day Israel Attacked America - The Survivors Speak


Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research, makes argument that CIA and Israeli Mossad did 9/11. Same pattern: drag US into Israel's wars in Middle East.

[Smob3]

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[anthonymilkins]

Such convince. Much empirical. So connect.

[LukeLissen]

9/11 was done by Putin's mafia via the Hamburg Cell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_cell

The Russian FSB has significant activity in Hamburg and has since WWII(KGB). Hamburg was also used because it was hoped to cause problems between US and Germany - key allies Putin hoped to harm; Saudi's were used as the actual attackers for the same reason. Putin is hateful of the US-German alliance and the US-Saudi alliance. The US-Saudi alliance for example was crucial in the fall of the USSR - http://www.aei.org/feature/the-soviet-collapse/ Putin himself was stationed in Germany during his days as KGB agent.

Putin saw it as revenge for numerous things, including Kosovo and Chechnya and the loss of the Cold War and what he sees in his own twisted head at the constant 'humiliation' as he calls it from Russian failures which must all be because of an evil American conspiracy. He is a raving lunatic and that continues until today.












You'll notice that Bush withdrew from the ABM treaty shortly after 9/11.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Ba...#US_withdrawal

On December 13, 2001, George W. Bush gave Russia notice of the United States' withdrawal from the treaty, in accordance with the clause that required six months' notice before terminating the pact—the first time in recent history that the United States has withdrawn from a major international arms treaty. This led to the eventual creation of the American Missile Defense Agency.







get into this:


Bush's "Axis of Evil" included Iran, Iraq, and North Korea

Bush's "Beyond the Axis of Evil" included Cuba, Libya, and Syria

Bush's "Outposts of Yyranny" were Belarus, Burma, Zimbabwe


All of these are listed because of their relation to Russia, some more covertly than others - primarily through Russia's FSB being involved in various forms of terrorism.


Afghanistan - was attacked because Putin and Co. were making huge sums of money by controlling the opium trade out of there, including that to their own countrymen(Russia has the second highest rate of heroin addicts on the planet)



This gets really really really deep and pages can be written on it.
















and then there's FSB/KGB agent Litvinenko:





"the center of global terrorism is the Kremlin" including al-Qaeda and ISIS





From Alexander Litvinenko, former Russian FSB(KGB) counterintelligence agent:


http://www.jrnyquist.com/nyquist_2005_0813.htm

Last month a journalist friend in Poland sent me a translation of an interview with FSB [KGB] defector Alexander Litvinenko. The following testimony, offered by Litvinenko, was published by FAKT. Alexander Valterovich Litvinenko (b. Voreonezh, 1962) served in the counterintelligence agencies of the Soviet KGB, and after 1991, as a counter-terrorism expert in the Central Staff of the MB-FSK-FSB (KGB successor organizations). In 1997 Litvinenko served in one of the most secretive departments of the Russian KGB -- the Department for the Analysis of Criminal Organizations. He was a senior operations officer and deputy head of the Seventh Section. Litvinenko defected from Russia and was granted political asylum by the United Kingdom in May 2001.

In a July 2002 article titled Ayman al-Zawahiri's Russian Adventure, I offered the following analysis: "Given Zawahiri's travels to Russia and China, given the full context of Russia's double game in Chechnya (described in last week’s column), we ought to entertain the possibility that China and Russia secretly supported the terrorists who attacked America on 9/11."

Poland's FAKT contacted Litvinenko after the London bombings last month and the following conversation was reported:

FAKT: Alexander, who, in your opinion, is the originator of this [London] terrorist attack?

A. Litvinenko: You know, I have spoken about it earlier and I shall say now, that I know only one organization that has made terrorism the main tool of solving political problems. It is the Russian special services. The KGB was engaged in terrorism for many years, and mass terrorism. At the special department of the KGB they trained terrorists from practically every country in the world. These courses lasted, as a rule, for a half-year. Specially trained and prepared agents of the KGB organized murders and explosions, including explosions of tankers, the hijacking of passenger airliners, strikes on diplomatic, state and commercial organizations worldwide.

FAKT: Could you name ... some of the terrorists prepared at the "special courses" of the KGB-FSB?

A. Litvinenko: The bloodiest terrorists in the world were or are agents of the KGB-FSB. These are well-known, like Carlos Ilyich Ramiros, nicknamed "the Jackal," the late Yassir Arafat, Saddam Hussein, Adjalan (he is condemned in Turkey), Wadi Haddad, the head of the service of external operations of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Hauyi, the head of the communist party of Lebanon, Mr. Papaionnu from the Cyprus, Sean Garland from Ireland and many others. All of them were trained by the KGB, received money from there, weapons and explosives, counterfeit documents and a communication equipment for carrying out of acts of terrorism worldwide.

FAKT: Some may object that each of the listed figures, and the forces supporting them, were engaged in solving their own political problems.

A. Litvinenko: Certainly, all these figures and movements operated under their own slogans; however, none of them especially hid their "intimate" ... relationship with the Kremlin and Lubyanka. There is a simple question: whether the Russian special services would train and finance people and groups that were not supervised by Lubyanka and did not serve the interests of the Kremlin? You understand perfectly, they would not. Each act of terrorism made by these people was carried out as an assignment and under the rigid control of the KGB of the USSR. And [the terrorism] ... is not casual after the disintegration of the USSR and [reform of the KGB]....

FAKT: Every terrorist you have named is from 'the old staff' of the KGB. Could you name someone from recent history?

A. Litvinenko: Certainly, here it is. The number two person in the terrorist organization al Qaeda, who they are crediting with the series of explosions in London, Ayman al-Zawahiri, is an old agent of the FSB. Being sentenced to death in Egypt for terrorism and hunted by Interpol, Ayman al-Zawahiri, in 1998, was in the territory of Dagestan, where for half a year he received special training at one of the educational bases of the FSB. After this training he was transferred to Afghanistan, where he had never been before and where, following the recommendation of his Lubyanka chiefs, he at once ... penetrated the milieu of bin Laden and soon became his assistant in al Qaeda.

FAKT: Could you hint at least, where this data comes from?

A. Litvinenko: I can. During my service in one of the most secret departments of the FSB, top officials from the UFSB of Dagestan, who had directly worked with Ayman al-Zawahiri ... were called to Moscow and received high posts.

FAKT: What can you say concerning the acts of terrorism in London ? From what region and with what forces was this strike directed?

A. Litvinenko: In reply to this question I can definitely say that the center of global terrorism is not in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan or the Chechen Republic. The terrorist infection is spread worldwide from Lubyanka Square and the Kremlin cabinet. And until the Russian special services are outlawed, dispersed and condemned, the terrorism will never stop: bombs will blow up and blood will be shed. Terrorism has no expiration date.... I would like to repeat, that all the terrorists, whom I have named, were supported by the heads of the Soviet and Russian special services - Yuri Andropov, Vladimir Putin, Nikolay Patrushev and others. These people are the main terrorists.... And until we condemn them ... global terrorism will continue.


Such was the FAKT interview with former FSB-KGB officer Alexander Litvinenko. Related to this, in 1998 I asked a former Russian intelligence official how Moscow might successfully pull off a surprise nuclear attack against the United States without suffering a devastating retaliation. He replied without hesitation, saying: "If you ever hear that Arab terrorists have attacked an American city with nuclear weapons don't believe it." The attack, he said, would be from Russia.

Even now I don't fully understand how a proxy WMD terrorist attack on the United States would be exploited. Exactly what is Moscow trying to achieve? What is the strategic follow-up? I was told that a mass missile strike on America would follow. I am reminded of San Renxing's recent commentary on a secret Communist Party speech about China's plans to kill 100 to 200 million Americans: "Unable to believe in the existence of such wickedness ... people would rather think the [war] 'speech' cannot be true or it's not to be believed."

I will end this commentary with a quote from the text of Viktor Suvorov's Spetsnaz.

[Widespread terrorist and sabotage operations in advance of World War III] are known officially in the GRU as the "preparatory period," and unofficially as the "overture." The overture is a series of large and small operations the purpose of which is, before actual military operations begin, to weaken the enemy's morale, create an atmosphere of suspicion, fear and uncertainty, and divert the attention of the enemy's armies and police forces to a huge number of different targets, each of which may be the object of the next attack.

The overture is carried out by agents of the secret services of the Soviet satellite countries and by mercenaries recruited by intermediaries. The principal method employed at this stage is "gray terror," that is, a kind of terror which is not conducted in the name of the Soviet Union. The Soviet secret services do not at this stage leave their visiting cards, or leave other people's cards. The terror is carried out in the name of already existing extremist groups not connected in any way with the Soviet Union, or in the name of fictitious organizations.













Alexander Litvinenko's wikipedia page for more info on him:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko

Other allegations[edit]
In his book Gang from Lubyanka, Litvinenko alleged that Vladimir Putin during his time at the FSB was personally involved in protecting the drug trafficking from Afghanistan organised by Abdul Rashid Dostum.[80] In December 2003 Russian authorities confiscated over 4000 copies of the book.[81]




Islam has been around sicne the seventh century. The modern age of 'Islamic terrorism' did not start until the 70's and 80's and started primarily with the Kremlin-Chechnya/Dagestan -Hafez el Assad-Islamic Jihad/Hezbollah-Arafat-Gaddaffi-Tehran-Saddam connections among others.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafez_al-Assad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi

[TheAdz95]

9/11 was done by Putin's mafia via the Hamburg Cell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_cell

The Russian FSB has significant activity in Hamburg and has since WWII(KGB). Hamburg was also used because it was hoped to cause problems between US and Germany - key allies Putin hoped to harm; Saudi's were used as the actual attackers for the same reason. Putin is hateful of the US-German alliance and the US-Saudi alliance. The US-Saudi alliance for example was crucial in the fall of the USSR - http://www.aei.org/feature/the-soviet-collapse/ Putin himself was stationed in Germany during his days as KGB agent.

Putin saw it as revenge for numerous things, including Kosovo and Chechnya and the loss of the Cold War and what he sees in his own twisted head at the constant 'humiliation' as he calls it from Russian failures which must all be because of an evil American conspiracy. He is a raving lunatic and that continues until today.












You'll notice that Bush withdrew from the ABM treaty shortly after 9/11.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Ba...#US_withdrawal

On December 13, 2001, George W. Bush gave Russia notice of the United States' withdrawal from the treaty, in accordance with the clause that required six months' notice before terminating the pact—the first time in recent history that the United States has withdrawn from a major international arms treaty. This led to the eventual creation of the American Missile Defense Agency.







get into this:


Bush's "Axis of Evil" included Iran, Iraq, and North Korea

Bush's "Beyond the Axis of Evil" included Cuba, Libya, and Syria

Bush's "Outposts of Yyranny" were Belarus, Burma, Zimbabwe


All of these are listed because of their relation to Russia, some more covertly than others - primarily through Russia's FSB being involved in various forms of terrorism.


Afghanistan - was attacked because Putin and Co. were making huge sums of money by controlling the opium trade out of there, including that to their own countrymen(Russia has the second highest rate of heroin addicts on the planet)



This gets really really really deep and pages can be written on it.
















and then there's FSB/KGB agent Litvinenko:





"the center of global terrorism is the Kremlin" including al-Qaeda and ISIS





From Alexander Litvinenko, former Russian FSB(KGB) counterintelligence agent:


http://www.jrnyquist.com/nyquist_2005_0813.htm

Last month a journalist friend in Poland sent me a translation of an interview with FSB [KGB] defector Alexander Litvinenko. The following testimony, offered by Litvinenko, was published by FAKT. Alexander Valterovich Litvinenko (b. Voreonezh, 1962) served in the counterintelligence agencies of the Soviet KGB, and after 1991, as a counter-terrorism expert in the Central Staff of the MB-FSK-FSB (KGB successor organizations). In 1997 Litvinenko served in one of the most secretive departments of the Russian KGB -- the Department for the Analysis of Criminal Organizations. He was a senior operations officer and deputy head of the Seventh Section. Litvinenko defected from Russia and was granted political asylum by the United Kingdom in May 2001.

In a July 2002 article titled Ayman al-Zawahiri's Russian Adventure, I offered the following analysis: "Given Zawahiri's travels to Russia and China, given the full context of Russia's double game in Chechnya (described in last week’s column), we ought to entertain the possibility that China and Russia secretly supported the terrorists who attacked America on 9/11."

Poland's FAKT contacted Litvinenko after the London bombings last month and the following conversation was reported:

FAKT: Alexander, who, in your opinion, is the originator of this [London] terrorist attack?

A. Litvinenko: You know, I have spoken about it earlier and I shall say now, that I know only one organization that has made terrorism the main tool of solving political problems. It is the Russian special services. The KGB was engaged in terrorism for many years, and mass terrorism. At the special department of the KGB they trained terrorists from practically every country in the world. These courses lasted, as a rule, for a half-year. Specially trained and prepared agents of the KGB organized murders and explosions, including explosions of tankers, the hijacking of passenger airliners, strikes on diplomatic, state and commercial organizations worldwide.

FAKT: Could you name ... some of the terrorists prepared at the "special courses" of the KGB-FSB?

A. Litvinenko: The bloodiest terrorists in the world were or are agents of the KGB-FSB. These are well-known, like Carlos Ilyich Ramiros, nicknamed "the Jackal," the late Yassir Arafat, Saddam Hussein, Adjalan (he is condemned in Turkey), Wadi Haddad, the head of the service of external operations of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Hauyi, the head of the communist party of Lebanon, Mr. Papaionnu from the Cyprus, Sean Garland from Ireland and many others. All of them were trained by the KGB, received money from there, weapons and explosives, counterfeit documents and a communication equipment for carrying out of acts of terrorism worldwide.

FAKT: Some may object that each of the listed figures, and the forces supporting them, were engaged in solving their own political problems.

A. Litvinenko: Certainly, all these figures and movements operated under their own slogans; however, none of them especially hid their "intimate" ... relationship with the Kremlin and Lubyanka. There is a simple question: whether the Russian special services would train and finance people and groups that were not supervised by Lubyanka and did not serve the interests of the Kremlin? You understand perfectly, they would not. Each act of terrorism made by these people was carried out as an assignment and under the rigid control of the KGB of the USSR. And [the terrorism] ... is not casual after the disintegration of the USSR and [reform of the KGB]....

FAKT: Every terrorist you have named is from 'the old staff' of the KGB. Could you name someone from recent history?

A. Litvinenko: Certainly, here it is. The number two person in the terrorist organization al Qaeda, who they are crediting with the series of explosions in London, Ayman al-Zawahiri, is an old agent of the FSB. Being sentenced to death in Egypt for terrorism and hunted by Interpol, Ayman al-Zawahiri, in 1998, was in the territory of Dagestan, where for half a year he received special training at one of the educational bases of the FSB. After this training he was transferred to Afghanistan, where he had never been before and where, following the recommendation of his Lubyanka chiefs, he at once ... penetrated the milieu of bin Laden and soon became his assistant in al Qaeda.

FAKT: Could you hint at least, where this data comes from?

A. Litvinenko: I can. During my service in one of the most secret departments of the FSB, top officials from the UFSB of Dagestan, who had directly worked with Ayman al-Zawahiri ... were called to Moscow and received high posts.

FAKT: What can you say concerning the acts of terrorism in London ? From what region and with what forces was this strike directed?

A. Litvinenko: In reply to this question I can definitely say that the center of global terrorism is not in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan or the Chechen Republic. The terrorist infection is spread worldwide from Lubyanka Square and the Kremlin cabinet. And until the Russian special services are outlawed, dispersed and condemned, the terrorism will never stop: bombs will blow up and blood will be shed. Terrorism has no expiration date.... I would like to repeat, that all the terrorists, whom I have named, were supported by the heads of the Soviet and Russian special services - Yuri Andropov, Vladimir Putin, Nikolay Patrushev and others. These people are the main terrorists.... And until we condemn them ... global terrorism will continue.


Such was the FAKT interview with former FSB-KGB officer Alexander Litvinenko. Related to this, in 1998 I asked a former Russian intelligence official how Moscow might successfully pull off a surprise nuclear attack against the United States without suffering a devastating retaliation. He replied without hesitation, saying: "If you ever hear that Arab terrorists have attacked an American city with nuclear weapons don't believe it." The attack, he said, would be from Russia.

Even now I don't fully understand how a proxy WMD terrorist attack on the United States would be exploited. Exactly what is Moscow trying to achieve? What is the strategic follow-up? I was told that a mass missile strike on America would follow. I am reminded of San Renxing's recent commentary on a secret Communist Party speech about China's plans to kill 100 to 200 million Americans: "Unable to believe in the existence of such wickedness ... people would rather think the [war] 'speech' cannot be true or it's not to be believed."

I will end this commentary with a quote from the text of Viktor Suvorov's Spetsnaz.

[Widespread terrorist and sabotage operations in advance of World War III] are known officially in the GRU as the "preparatory period," and unofficially as the "overture." The overture is a series of large and small operations the purpose of which is, before actual military operations begin, to weaken the enemy's morale, create an atmosphere of suspicion, fear and uncertainty, and divert the attention of the enemy's armies and police forces to a huge number of different targets, each of which may be the object of the next attack.

The overture is carried out by agents of the secret services of the Soviet satellite countries and by mercenaries recruited by intermediaries. The principal method employed at this stage is "gray terror," that is, a kind of terror which is not conducted in the name of the Soviet Union. The Soviet secret services do not at this stage leave their visiting cards, or leave other people's cards. The terror is carried out in the name of already existing extremist groups not connected in any way with the Soviet Union, or in the name of fictitious organizations.













Alexander Litvinenko's wikipedia page for more info on him:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko

Other allegations[edit]
In his book Gang from Lubyanka, Litvinenko alleged that Vladimir Putin during his time at the FSB was personally involved in protecting the drug trafficking from Afghanistan organised by Abdul Rashid Dostum.[80] In December 2003 Russian authorities confiscated over 4000 copies of the book.[81]




Islam has been around sicne the seventh century. The modern age of 'Islamic terrorism' did not start until the 70's and 80's and started primarily with the Kremlin-Chechnya/Dagestan -Hafez el Assad-Islamic Jihad/Hezbollah-Arafat-Gaddaffi-Tehran-Saddam connections among others.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafez_al-Assad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi

Stopped reading at '9/11 was done by Putin's mafia'.

[LukeLissen]

Stopped reading at '9/11 was done by Putin's mafia'.

War in Ukraine against Russian terrorism thread
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=165404221

Poll question: 'I support...'
response: 'Russia' - Theadz95

[TheAdz95]

War in Ukraine against Russian terrorism thread
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=165404221

Poll question: 'I support...'
response: 'Russia' - Theadz95

Don't know why you're quoting another thread, especially when the two issues aren't even related.
Anyhoo it wouldn't surprise me if you also think putin is behind global warming too, anything from you neocon nuts is possible.

[J3remy]

9/11 was done by..

Quite possibly the craziest crackpot story ive read in here lol

[LukeLissen]

Quite possibly the craziest crackpot story ive read in here

+1 its bad; anybody writing bad things about Russia, Iran, Syria is the devil.

However, anyone writing conspiracy theories about America is an enlightened and awakened person who will save humanity from evil.

[Judgment]

Stopped reading at '9/11 was done by Putin's mafia'.

Same. Funny how now that there are tensions with Russia, we blame Russia.

[anthonymilkins]

I for one thank LukeLissen for that post

It shows quite evidently how easy it is to connect dots of zero empirical nature and deduce conspiracy. For you 'da jewz' posters, it should be like looking into a mirror of your own posts and logic.

[LukeLissen]

Same. Funny how now that there are tensions with Russia, we blame Russia.

+1

There were not tensions with Russia before now.

[anthonymilkins]

+1

There were not tensions with Russia before now.

lmao

Probably been living under a rock since birth

[frankenstein78]

BRB, spending 6 hours of my time so I can thoroughly go through all the text, videos and links of posts 1 and 4.

[Judgment]

+1

There were not tensions with Russia before now.

Hasn't been so much media coverage and controversy until recently, which is coincidentally the same time you post that hysterical trash. Don't worry, I'll be sure to write what's between the lines next time since it's a skill you seem to lack.

[LukeLissen]

BRB, spending 6 hours of my time so I can thoroughly go through all the text, videos and links of posts 1 and 4.

Thanks for the info.

Hasn't been so much media coverage and controversy until recently, which is coincidentally the same time you post that hysterical trash. Don't worry, I'll be sure to write what's between the lines next time since it's a skill you seem to lack.

Thanks for the info.

[Judgment]

Thanks for the info.

Thanks for the laugh.

[TheAdz95]

Thanks for the neg Luke, real mature buddy!

[LukeLissen]

Thanks for the neg Luke, real mature buddy!

I know and I should try to do better. I can learn from you. For example, making a post in a thread to tell us you did not read it is a good show of maturity.

[Spartan5364]

at this point I think Luke has some sort of mental illness

[nutsy54]

ITT: Something happened in 1967; therefore it "proves" that completely different people, doing something different, 35 years later, are guilty of whatever accusations someone makes.

Cool

[LukeLissen]

at this point I think Luke has some sort of mental illness

War in Ukraine against Russian terrorism thread
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=165404221

Poll question: 'I support...'
response: 'Russia' - Spartan5364

[ZioBot]

Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research, makes argument that CIA and Israeli Mossad did 9/11. Same pattern: drag US into Israel's wars in Middle East.

Yay! The Dr who nobody heard of!

Voodoo why not dig out one of the countless other threads you created on these subjects rather than spam with a new one?

[nutsy54]

Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research, makes argument that CIA and Israeli Mossad did 9/11. Same pattern: drag US into Israel's wars in Middle East.

He fooled you into believing inflated credentials, so why should you believe anything else he says?

According to the Press Office of the Army War College, in the mid-1980s, Sabrosky served as a civilian administrator at a research department of the college, supervising the publication of papers written within that department. His job title was "Director of Studies" because he supervised publishing studies done within a department of the college. He was a mid-level civilian manager at a military college, without access to the sort of highly classified material of the sort he now fraudulently claims to have. Moreover, since his employment at that school was about 25 years ago, his employment there would provide him with no special insights with respect to 9/11.
http://www.metabunk.org/threads/alan-sabrosky.3760/

[Bushmaster]

Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College,

Well this is certainly new and interesting..

[essenn]

at this point I think Luke has some sort of mental illness

Poster above mentioned him living under a rock since birth.. I think he's been hit in the head with a rock since birth tbh with the lulzy things he is posting here...

9/11 done by Russians.. LMFAO!!!!

[anthonymilkins]

Poster above mentioned him living under a rock since birth.. I think he's been hit in the head with a rock since birth tbh with the lulzy things he is posting here...

9/11 done by Russians.. LMFAO!!!!

Actually I was referring to the guy who seemed to think that Russia & American tensions just miraculously disappeared.

For people like you, I go back to this:

I for one thank LukeLissen for that post

It shows quite evidently how easy it is to connect dots of zero empirical nature and deduce conspiracy. For you 'da jewz' posters, it should be like looking into a mirror of your own posts and logic.

I don't agree with Luke's assertions at all, but they're no less ridiculous than your own re: 9/11. In fact, they're virtually mirror images by way of construction and formulation.

[Sakeoe]

fcking lol at Lukes post. Ib4 Russia also confirmed to be behind London bombings, Madrid bombings, the anthrax attacks in the US, the sinking of the Korean ferry and the Fukushima disaster.

I guess you were speaking the truth after all Luke, that you aren't an Israeli government shill. Because even they wouldn't think anyone would believe something like that. I gotta hand it to you though, in your mental deranged fits you are actually very creative in finding ways to tie disasters to Russia, even when there are seemingly none.

[essenn]

Actually I was referring to

My point still stands.. LukeLissen spouts bullchit like this and his intelligence resembles that of a kid who's been dropped repeatedly on his head.

Russians did 9/11.. lol!

I don't agree with Luke's assertions at all, but they're no less ridiculous than your own re: 9/11.

What are they? I don't claim to know what happened on 9/11.. only a select few people do.

[NumeroOnce]

9/11 was done by Putin's mafia via the Hamburg Cell.

LukeLissen always bring teh lolz. I think he might actually be a paid shill though... in one wild post, he managed to make the 9/11 truth movement look worse, distract from the points made in the OP, AND place the blame on Russia, our current main country of opposition. I'm not even mad, I'm impressed.

LukeLissen, tell me this: if it was Russia, don't you think the US government would've been the first to blame them? We've been ideally opposed to them since the Cold War, and would use any excuse to go to war with them. Don't tell me you think Bush was afraid of Putin?

Let's say you're right, and it was Putin; you are still admitting that our government went to the Middle East on false pretenses.



In response to the OP's post, nobody finds it coincidental that the PNAC, who influenced the Bush Administration, actually called for a new Pearl Harbor, and they got one in 9/11?

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor"

The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) was an American think tank based in Washington, D.C. established in 1997 as a non-profit educational organization founded by William Kristol and Robert Kagan. The PNAC's stated goal is "to promote American global leadership."[1] Fundamental to the PNAC was the view that "American leadership is good both for America and for the world" and support for "a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity."[2][3] With its members in numerous key administrative positions, the PNAC exerted influence on high-level U.S. government officials in the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush and affected the Bush Administration's development of military and foreign policies, especially involving national security and the Iraq War.[4][5]

-Wiki PNAC entry