http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC506782/
well this is interesting
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09-03-2011, 07:38 PM #1
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09-03-2011, 07:44 PM #2
anyone know TEF of alcohol?
edit: found the answer i think; incase anyone wants to know: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC524030/
also thanks to post below"There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. "
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09-03-2011, 08:01 PM #6
I honestly don't know what there is to discuss, I thought this was old info?
"calorie is a calorie" only applies in discussions surrounding meal frequency and timing (where it is assumed that the meal is identical in both scenarios).Start: 18/8/2011 = 145lbs
Current: 3/11/2011 = 160.05560234631lbs
I don't even lift, I just eat loads and pray it all turns into muscle
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A calorie is a calorie violates the second law of thermodynamics?
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I think it's relatively common knowledge that the TEFs of macros differ. In a sense, a calorie is not exactly equivalent to all calories, but the relevancy of the difference in TEF is minimal unless taken to extremes - i.e. substituting 100 grams of macros for others. Technically, the irrelevancy is even furthered by the population of this board who in large part tracks their daily consumption. Since we know the caloric input, it is simply a matter of adjusting it to fit our needs and TEF is simply part of the output in calories in/out.
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Very interesting and makes physiological sense to me! The continued results of clinical tests on low CHO diets for the obese in terms of not only short term weight loss, but improved blood lipid and other health profiles are very positive. Academia made fun of Dr. Atkins, sometimes terribly, but they are now publicly stating that in the right conditions, or for the right group of people, he was correct! It's nothing new, the first book on this subject was written in the latter part of the 19th century by a mortician, who on earth would take nutrition advice from a mortician. He was obese and found through trial and error that low CHO diet helped him. Good subject hskidd, thanks for posting.
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