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    Bernie Sanders proposes bill to eliminate all medical debt

    https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/...ical-debt-bill

    All payed for by your tax dollars!
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    Student loan debt relief? Hate it tbh.

    Medical loan debt relief? Love it tbh. Entire medical industry is way worse, overpriced, predatory. And it feels like the financial disasters it causes onto the patients are not self elected... unlike student loans which are self elected.
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    Originally Posted by Kiefer 2004 View Post
    I hate to be pedantic but the US government runs a significant deficit and taxes have not entirely covered expenditure in quite some time. So really it is part paid for by your tax dollars and the other part through the erosion of spending power due to inflation, a good amount you are able to export to other countries.

    Now if we want to look at this in terms of marginal expenditures then the tax dollars have already been assigned to something else and this new expense would all be paid for by inflation, again a good amount you are able to export to other countries. Seems like actually quite a good deal.
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    Nearly every hospital in the country would be forced to shut down


    If Dems had their way you would be paying 90% tax just so lazy, jobless Libs would have everything in their lives provided to them for free







    Edit: I don't think you all understand how expensive it is to operate a hospital in the US where 70% of people are stage 1 obese; more than half of hospitalizations are related to disease that stems from obesity

    Your average hospital is bleeding money & relies on donations/government funding
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    What does that mean?

    Government calls loaners and tells them sorry but that money those people owe you isn't owed anymore. Go out of business now.

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    Government uses my money and monetary value to pay off their debt?
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    Originally Posted by TwoTailedSperm View Post
    I hate to be pedantic but the US government runs a significant deficit and taxes have not entirely covered expenditure in quite some time. So really it is part paid for by your tax dollars and the other part through the erosion of spending power due to inflation, a good amount you are able to export to other countries.

    Now if we want to look at this in terms of marginal expenditures then the tax dollars have already been assigned to something else and this new expense would all be paid for by inflation, again a good amount you are able to export to other countries. Seems like actually quite a good deal.
    Seems like an apologist way of justifying previous bad behavior with more bad behavior.
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    What does that mean?
    Government calls loaners and tells them sorry but that money those people owe you isn't owed anymore. Go out of business now.
    You know that isn't going to happen
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    Nearly every hospital in the country would be forced to shut down
    Or be nationalized, which is what Bernie and Co. really want to do anyway.
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    Seems like an apologist way of justifying previous bad behavior with more bad behavior.
    Yeah that's fair. I have no dog in this hunt and no real opinion on the matter but as an outsider looking in I see all the things your government already spends on and get confused why helping sick people get better is so controversial in comparison. Especially for a Christian country.

    Hey Jesus mate, what do you reckon is more important; enough bombs to split the earth in half or helping the sick? Asking for a friend.
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    Originally Posted by stevebec View Post
    Or be nationalized, which is what Bernie and Co. really want to do anyway.
    You can't even fathom the endless billions in tax dollars it would take to fund the colossal fat ass that is America every single year


    I'm telling you 50% or more of persons develop disease because of their own poor choices(obesity, smoking etc)
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    In 2016 I'd be like "f/ck that"

    In 2024, I'm like "Why not? We keep giving Ukraine and Israel money, we keep printing money, why not eliminate medical debt and student loan debt?"

    There is no such thing as fiscal reponsibility anymore, and attempting to be a voice of reason in 2024 is a fool's errand.

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    Lol what a fuking terrible idea. 5% of people account for like 80% of medical debt
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    Yeah that's fair. I have no dog in this hunt and no real opinion on the matter but as an outsider looking in I see all the things your government already spends on and get confused why helping sick people get better is so controversial in comparison. Especially for a Christian country.

    Hey Jesus mate, what do you reckon is more important; enough bombs to split the earth in half or helping the sick? Asking for a friend.
    This also seems like an apologist way of justifying bad behavior by drawing comparison.

    How about we reduce spending and stop with the obvious vote buying from politicians selling "free" government services?
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    Originally Posted by JeepBruh View Post
    This also seems like an apologist way of justifying bad behavior by drawing comparison.

    How about we reduce spending and stop with the obvious vote buying from politicians selling "free" government services?
    Your point of view is valid, more valid than mine because I assume you actually get a vote. That's just how I see it.

    As an outsider I am all for you guys reducing your spending as I pay for some of it through inflation exported to my country. But honestly as another human, I am a bit disturbed by the idea of another human suffering or even dying when it could have been relatively easily prevented if not for lack of money. Money is a concept, humans are real and call me a sucker but I love my neighbor.

    I would be all about some kind of fat/degen camp system though because no chit some people take the absolute piss
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    Why not just print money and make everyone millionaires. Problem solved Bernie bros
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    Why not just print money and make everyone millionaires. Problem solved Bernie bros
    Now now, only those in the club are allowed that privilege. Aint no moggers without the mogged.
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    As an outsider I am all for you guys reducing your spending as I pay for some of it through inflation exported to my country. But honestly as another human, I am a bit disturbed by the idea of another human suffering or even dying when it could have been relatively easily prevented if not for lack of money. Money is a concept, humans are real and call me a sucker but I love my neighbor.
    Thanks for going out of your way to tell us how much you care about people in all of your posts. I now value your opinion more and will reconsider mine. Clearly someone who cares this much (and certainly isn’t pretending) wasn’t being an apologist for a vote buying scheme.

    That whole money thing? We can figure that out later. In the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter.
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    That whole money thing? We can figure that out later. In the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter.
    This is literally how the money system already works. You want to overhaul that then I am completely on your team. My approach to you and your opinions has been one of respect and good faith. Your snarky sarcasm questioning my authenticity is distasteful to me. I wish you all the best.
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    Originally Posted by TwoTailedSperm View Post
    This is literally how the money system already works. You want to overhaul that then I am completely on your team. My approach to you and your opinions has been one of respect and good faith. Your snarky sarcasm questioning my authenticity is distasteful to me. I wish you all the best.
    I was being genuine. Were you not?

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