*****The Official 2012 Olympia Thread*****

[unleashed132]

This is why I believe the olympia should contain both a aesthetics point system, plus a strength points system where you are judged on bodyweight lifts


for example, you compete at the olympia at 260lbs you will be asked to bench 80% of your bodyweight (208 lbs) for as many times as you can doing slow perfect reps. A judge stands over you and says "down, up" and you are required to do slow perfect reps of the bench press and the judge waits 5 seconds between saying "down" and "up" so your doing very slow 5 second reps. you keep going until your arms reach failure and you are unable to complete a movement in 5 seconds


And then you will also go on a leg press machine and leg press 200% of your bodyweight, so 520lbs, for as many reps as you can with a judge standing there and he waits 8 seconds between saying "up" and "down" and you do slow reps and if your unable to complete a rep in the 8 seconds then your done


And then also I feel completely normal pull-ups is also a good exercise to determine back strength. So you go on a pull up bar and do as many pullups as you can doing slow reps and a judge stands there counting 5 seconds between "up" and "down"



so this way people could get points from aesthetic judging, and points from bodyweight relative strength



actually it would be hard to really combine all these into a points system, so instead of combining them all to have 1 winner, it would be cooler to simply have 4 olympia champions. 1 Olympia physique champion, 1 olympia bench press champion, 1 olympia leg press champion, and 1 olympia pullups champion. I think that would be pretty cool to see who out of all the olympians have the strongest relative upper and lower bodies and backs

[YeahBuddyyyyy]

This is why I believe the olympia should contain both a aesthetics point system, plus a strength points system where you are judged on bodyweight lifts


for example, you compete at the olympia at 260lbs you will be asked to bench 80% of your bodyweight (208 lbs) for as many times as you can doing slow perfect reps. A judge stands over you and says "down, up" and you are required to do slow perfect reps of the bench press and the judge waits 5 seconds between saying "down" and "up" so your doing very slow 5 second reps. you keep going until your arms reach failure and you are unable to complete a movement in 5 seconds


And then you will also go on a leg press machine and leg press 200% of your bodyweight, so 520lbs, for as many reps as you can with a judge standing there and he waits 8 seconds between saying "up" and "down" and you do slow reps and if your unable to complete a rep in the 8 seconds then your done


And then also I feel completely normal pull-ups is also a good exercise to determine back strength. So you go on a pull up bar and do as many pullups as you can doing slow reps and a judge stands there counting 5 seconds between "up" and "down"



so this way people could get points from aesthetic judging, and points from bodyweight relative strength



actually it would be hard to really combine all these into a points system, so instead of combining them all to have 1 winner, it would be cooler to simply have 4 olympia champions. 1 Olympia physique champion, 1 olympia bench press champion, 1 olympia leg press champion, and 1 olympia pullups champion. I think that would be pretty cool to see who out of all the olympians have the strongest relative upper and lower bodies and backs

[rohatt]

This is why I believe the olympia should contain both a aesthetics point system, plus a strength points system where you are judged on bodyweight lifts


for example, you compete at the olympia at 260lbs you will be asked to bench 80% of your bodyweight (208 lbs) for as many times as you can doing slow perfect reps. A judge stands over you and says "down, up" and you are required to do slow perfect reps of the bench press and the judge waits 5 seconds between saying "down" and "up" so your doing very slow 5 second reps. you keep going until your arms reach failure and you are unable to complete a movement in 5 seconds


And then you will also go on a leg press machine and leg press 200% of your bodyweight, so 520lbs, for as many reps as you can with a judge standing there and he waits 8 seconds between saying "up" and "down" and you do slow reps and if your unable to complete a rep in the 8 seconds then your done


And then also I feel completely normal pull-ups is also a good exercise to determine back strength. So you go on a pull up bar and do as many pullups as you can doing slow reps and a judge stands there counting 5 seconds between "up" and "down"



so this way people could get points from aesthetic judging, and points from bodyweight relative strength



actually it would be hard to really combine all these into a points system, so instead of combining them all to have 1 winner, it would be cooler to simply have 4 olympia champions. 1 Olympia physique champion, 1 olympia bench press champion, 1 olympia leg press champion, and 1 olympia pullups champion. I think that would be pretty cool to see who out of all the olympians have the strongest relative upper and lower bodies and backs


it would be easy to see who the champions are. whoever does the most reps of bench is the champion, whoever did second most reps of bench is second place. If theres a tie in reps between places 1-3 then there will just be 2 crowned champions then (or 2 crowned second place finishers). So if one person benches 53 times, and two people bench 52 times, and one person benches 50 times, and everyone else benched less, than that means the guy who benched 53 times is crowned first place, and theres two people given second place titles, and one person given 3 place title.

[Jamielak]

This is why I believe the olympia should contain both a aesthetics point system, plus a strength points system where you are judged on bodyweight lifts


for example, you compete at the olympia at 260lbs you will be asked to bench 80% of your bodyweight (208 lbs) for as many times as you can doing slow perfect reps. A judge stands over you and says "down, up" and you are required to do slow perfect reps of the bench press and the judge waits 5 seconds between saying "down" and "up" so your doing very slow 5 second reps. you keep going until your arms reach failure and you are unable to complete a movement in 5 seconds


And then you will also go on a leg press machine and leg press 200% of your bodyweight, so 520lbs, for as many reps as you can with a judge standing there and he waits 8 seconds between saying "up" and "down" and you do slow reps and if your unable to complete a rep in the 8 seconds then your done


And then also I feel completely normal pull-ups is also a good exercise to determine back strength. So you go on a pull up bar and do as many pullups as you can doing slow reps and a judge stands there counting 5 seconds between "up" and "down"



so this way people could get points from aesthetic judging, and points from bodyweight relative strength



actually it would be hard to really combine all these into a points system, so instead of combining them all to have 1 winner, it would be cooler to simply have 4 olympia champions. 1 Olympia physique champion, 1 olympia bench press champion, 1 olympia leg press champion, and 1 olympia pullups champion. I think that would be pretty cool to see who out of all the olympians have the strongest relative upper and lower bodies and backs


it would be easy to see who the champions are. whoever does the most reps of bench is the champion, whoever did second most reps of bench is second place. If theres a tie in reps between places 1-3 then there will just be 2 crowned champions then (or 2 crowned second place finishers). So if one person benches 53 times, and two people bench 52 times, and one person benches 50 times, and everyone else benched less, than that means the guy who benched 53 times is crowned first place, and theres two people given second place titles, and one person given 3 place title.

why would they do leg press..


squats>

[SeriousDon]

This is why I believe the olympia should contain both a aesthetics point system, plus a strength points system where you are judged on bodyweight lifts


for example, you compete at the olympia at 260lbs you will be asked to bench 80% of your bodyweight (208 lbs) for as many times as you can doing slow perfect reps. A judge stands over you and says "down, up" and you are required to do slow perfect reps of the bench press and the judge waits 5 seconds between saying "down" and "up" so your doing very slow 5 second reps. you keep going until your arms reach failure and you are unable to complete a movement in 5 seconds


And then you will also go on a leg press machine and leg press 200% of your bodyweight, so 520lbs, for as many reps as you can with a judge standing there and he waits 8 seconds between saying "up" and "down" and you do slow reps and if your unable to complete a rep in the 8 seconds then your done


And then also I feel completely normal pull-ups is also a good exercise to determine back strength. So you go on a pull up bar and do as many pullups as you can doing slow reps and a judge stands there counting 5 seconds between "up" and "down"



so this way people could get points from aesthetic judging, and points from bodyweight relative strength



actually it would be hard to really combine all these into a points system, so instead of combining them all to have 1 winner, it would be cooler to simply have 4 olympia champions. 1 Olympia physique champion, 1 olympia bench press champion, 1 olympia leg press champion, and 1 olympia pullups champion. I think that would be pretty cool to see who out of all the olympians have the strongest relative upper and lower bodies and backs


it would be easy to see who the champions are. whoever does the most reps of bench is the champion, whoever did second most reps of bench is second place. If theres a tie in reps between places 1-3 then there will just be 2 crowned champions then (or 2 crowned second place finishers). So if one person benches 53 times, and two people bench 52 times, and one person benches 50 times, and everyone else benched less, than that means the guy who benched 53 times is crowned first place, and theres two people given second place titles, and one person given 3 place title.

Bodybuilding =/= powerlifting .. . .. . .. ..

[snizzle77]

This is why I believe the olympia should contain both a aesthetics point system, plus a strength points system where you are judged on bodyweight lifts


for example, you compete at the olympia at 260lbs you will be asked to bench 80% of your bodyweight (208 lbs) for as many times as you can doing slow perfect reps. A judge stands over you and says "down, up" and you are required to do slow perfect reps of the bench press and the judge waits 5 seconds between saying "down" and "up" so your doing very slow 5 second reps. you keep going until your arms reach failure and you are unable to complete a movement in 5 seconds


And then you will also go on a leg press machine and leg press 200% of your bodyweight, so 520lbs, for as many reps as you can with a judge standing there and he waits 8 seconds between saying "up" and "down" and you do slow reps and if your unable to complete a rep in the 8 seconds then your done


And then also I feel completely normal pull-ups is also a good exercise to determine back strength. So you go on a pull up bar and do as many pullups as you can doing slow reps and a judge stands there counting 5 seconds between "up" and "down"



so this way people could get points from aesthetic judging, and points from bodyweight relative strength



actually it would be hard to really combine all these into a points system, so instead of combining them all to have 1 winner, it would be cooler to simply have 4 olympia champions. 1 Olympia physique champion, 1 olympia bench press champion, 1 olympia leg press champion, and 1 olympia pullups champion. I think that would be pretty cool to see who out of all the olympians have the strongest relative upper and lower bodies and backs


it would be easy to see who the champions are. whoever does the most reps of bench is the champion, whoever did second most reps of bench is second place. If theres a tie in reps between places 1-3 then there will just be 2 crowned champions then (or 2 crowned second place finishers). So if one person benches 53 times, and two people bench 52 times, and one person benches 50 times, and everyone else benched less, than that means the guy who benched 53 times is crowned first place, and theres two people given second place titles, and one person given 3 place title.

powerlifting = how strong you are

bodybuilding = how strong you look


your competition would be a powerlifting/bodybuilding hybrid

[SPARTAAAAA]

quoting for dumbest post of the year award

This is why I believe the olympia should contain both a aesthetics point system, plus a strength points system where you are judged on bodyweight lifts


for example, you compete at the olympia at 260lbs you will be asked to bench 80% of your bodyweight (208 lbs) for as many times as you can doing slow perfect reps. A judge stands over you and says "down, up" and you are required to do slow perfect reps of the bench press and the judge waits 5 seconds between saying "down" and "up" so your doing very slow 5 second reps. you keep going until your arms reach failure and you are unable to complete a movement in 5 seconds


And then you will also go on a leg press machine and leg press 200% of your bodyweight, so 520lbs, for as many reps as you can with a judge standing there and he waits 8 seconds between saying "up" and "down" and you do slow reps and if your unable to complete a rep in the 8 seconds then your done


And then also I feel completely normal pull-ups is also a good exercise to determine back strength. So you go on a pull up bar and do as many pullups as you can doing slow reps and a judge stands there counting 5 seconds between "up" and "down"



so this way people could get points from aesthetic judging, and points from bodyweight relative strength



actually it would be hard to really combine all these into a points system, so instead of combining them all to have 1 winner, it would be cooler to simply have 4 olympia champions. 1 Olympia physique champion, 1 olympia bench press champion, 1 olympia leg press champion, and 1 olympia pullups champion. I think that would be pretty cool to see who out of all the olympians have the strongest relative upper and lower bodies and backs


it would be easy to see who the champions are. whoever does the most reps of bench is the champion, whoever did second most reps of bench is second place. If theres a tie in reps between places 1-3 then there will just be 2 crowned champions then (or 2 crowned second place finishers). So if one person benches 53 times, and two people bench 52 times, and one person benches 50 times, and everyone else benched less, than that means the guy who benched 53 times is crowned first place, and theres two people given second place titles, and one person given 3 place title.

we have a new winner.

[Rocky-Balboa]

Kai should win. His best showing ever!

Look at the quad detail:

[jailbaitpounder]

do you think its a bad or good idea. imagine all the competitors up there doing benching and then one person is able to do the most reps and becomes the bench press champion


would be pretty cool to see


And then I realize most olympia competitors are extremely dehydrated and weak, so maybe this would give a reason to not cut so hard and maybe have 8% bodyfat so you can have more strength to win the strength competitions

[JM3K]

this is why misc and bodybuilding dont mix, too many ritards

[jailbaitpounder]

why would they do leg press..


squats>

both legpress and squats are a measure of general leg strength. however some bodybuilders have bad backs and cannot do tons of squats (or full rep squats) so it would be hard to judge what a full rep squat qualifies as.

leg press machine is much less likely to have someone be medically opposed to doing it compared to squats. leg press machine really just tests leg strength with minimal pressure on the back / spinal cord


leg press machine, bench press, and pullups all put minimal stress/damage on the spinal cord/back so I think those would be perfect competition exercises


and I picked 80% of bodyweight for the benching because it would become a strength/endurance hybrid. If you weight 260pounds then you bench 80% of your bodyweight (208) and if you weight 300lbs you bench 240. Then all the competitors would do their reps and whoever does the most reps of 80% bodyweight would win the bench press champion award

[jailbaitpounder]

powerlifting = how strong you are

bodybuilding = how strong you look


your competition would be a powerlifting/bodybuilding hybrid

your right . well then I guess I would love it if a powerlifting / bodybuilding hybrid competition was created


It would be pretty sweet to see who the aesthetics+strength champion is of bodyweight relative strength


Also it would make people who cheat and add a little synthol to increase his muscle size slightly fail to perform because synthol makes your muscle slightly bigger but also makes it weaker so they would lose in the strength competition

[jailbaitpounder]

Another thing that makes my idea so great is it would create a championship event where the perfect natural amount of "optimal cutting" is encouraged

because if you are lifting weight based on your bodyweight, then that means you want as little fat and as much muscle on your body as possible. However the bodybuilders that compete in the olympia clearly are cutting more than the optimal amount for functional power because they bring their bodyfat so low it makes them really weak.


so if you had a strength competition based on bodyweight relative exercises, it would cause the competitors to want to reduce their bodyfat as much as possible but not below the point where it actually reduces their functional power. So it would encourage the perfect amount of bodyfat on competitors in such a way where it reduces the amount they need to lift but doesnt weaken their functional strength

[SPARTAAAAA]

your right . well then I guess I would love it if a powerlifting / bodybuilding hybrid competition was created


It would be pretty sweet to see who the aesthetics+strength champion is of bodyweight relative strength


Also it would make people who cheat and add a little synthol to increase his muscle size slightly fail to perform because synthol makes your muscle slightly bigger but also makes it weaker so they would lose in the strength competition

[YeahBuddyyyyy]

Another thing that makes my idea so great is it would create a championship event where the perfect natural amount of "optimal cutting" is encouraged

because if you are lifting weight based on your bodyweight, then that means you want as little fat and as much muscle on your body as possible. However the bodybuilders that compete in the olympia clearly are cutting more than the optimal amount for functional power because they bring their bodyfat so low it makes them really weak.


so if you had a strength competition based on bodyweight relative exercises, it would cause the competitors to want to reduce their bodyfat as much as possible but not below the point where it actually reduces their functional power. So it would encourage the perfect amount of bodyfat on competitors in such a way where it reduces the amount they need to lift but doesnt weaken their functional strength

[seembrah]

why would they do leg press..


squats>

Bodybuilding =/= powerlifting .. . .. . .. ..

hahahahahahaha

[JustBulk]

In on this. Kai Green for win, green as share the greens!

everybody rep me if kai or phil heath win

Repped.

[yaz_rulz]

Phil fan checking in.. seeing kai and phil pics.. I think it was very close but if I am to judge then I would give it to kai!

[hcestR]

Looking at both of those men you can see the differences side by side. Phil's arms overshadow Kai in any of the side poses mainly due to insertion points however you then have Kai's legs compensating for this.

It will be close.. I really do want Kai to win.. but even though I do think even though he looks more Aesthetic than Phil today.. The judges tend to give it to whoever looks fuller.. And admittedly Phil has that over Kai.


Hope Kai wins though.

[snizzle77]

your right . well then I guess I would love it if a powerlifting / bodybuilding hybrid competition was created


It would be pretty sweet to see who the aesthetics+strength champion is of bodyweight relative strength


Also it would make people who cheat and add a little synthol to increase his muscle size slightly fail to perform because synthol makes your muscle slightly bigger but also makes it weaker so they would lose in the strength competition

would you like them to powerlift, while wearing bikinis and oiled up?

[752]

is it just me or nobody ITT knows anything about AAS.

[BodySculpter96]

All of them use roids


















































srs
(not srs)

[Dhboy]

Kai is looking amazing, has it this year for sure.

Phil to come in 2nd.

Bias juding really pisses me off, Branch looks terrible and doesn't even deserver the top 5, Wolf looked amazing.

[roushrsh]

Another thing that makes my idea so great is it would create a championship event where the perfect natural amount of "optimal cutting" is encouraged

because if you are lifting weight based on your bodyweight, then that means you want as little fat and as much muscle on your body as possible. However the bodybuilders that compete in the olympia clearly are cutting more than the optimal amount for functional power because they bring their bodyfat so low it makes them really weak.


so if you had a strength competition based on bodyweight relative exercises, it would cause the competitors to want to reduce their bodyfat as much as possible but not below the point where it actually reduces their functional power. So it would encourage the perfect amount of bodyfat on competitors in such a way where it reduces the amount they need to lift but doesnt weaken their functional strength

Reminds me of a quote that will help you in life bro
"stop the Q-tip, when there is resistance!"

[Dhboy]

Yup. I don't care how amazing your work ethic is or how much size you have. If you're not aesthetic then you're not aesthetic and if that's because you have crappy muscle insertions then oh well

It's like asking if it's fair that people judge others on how they look. Do you think it's right that most celebrities are good looking? Would you rather look at a bunch of ugly people on the movie screen? That's just how it is. If you're not aesthetic then you're not aesthetic

Ever heard of Markus Ruhl? Dude is a monster, but he looks like trash

Don't compare Markus Ruhl to Kai Greene lol...

From these photos Kai wins hands down and everyone can see that.

Bias judging will come into play and Phil will win, Kai 2nd and Warren 3rd somehow even though he doesn't deserve to be top 5. With that watery back not even in the Olympia.

[YeahBuddyyyyy]

Don't compare Markus Ruhl to Kai Greene lol...

From these photos Kai wins hands down and everyone can see that.

Bias judging will come into play and Phil will win, Kai 2nd and Warren 3rd somehow even though he doesn't deserve to be top 5. With that watery back not even in the Olympia.

Branch doesn't even deserve top 10. He looks like trash

[Jalalalalalala]

At what time (PT) will the mens final be approximately? I'm thinking maybe if I get up early tomorrow I can catch it, I live in PT + 9

[RMI]

Wardrobe Malfunction of peace

[braskibra]

phil fan checking in......its very close, however even if kai is winning he prolly wont win, its not always the best who wins, lots of politics and therefore i feel phil will win, sad but true

[Amurph8]

Kia is bigger. Bigger back and legs but Phil is more rounded better shoulders arms and chest. It's going to be a battle