Matt Ogus. The ultimate bro circa 2011

[juliacheh]

=Ion26;897195111

Lastly...lol at layne being natty...

Do you have any proof or you are just on that misc retard train?

[Lvisaa2]

I agree with the premise of what you've said, except the part about being a good person. Of course how do we if they are or not? We don't.

Also I think it's fair that we all have our opinions. So I don't understand why people get butt hurt when I accuse someone of being a drug user.

Lastly...lol at layne being natty...

Good person? I judge it by my interaction with them. For example, I'd say AA is a good guy even though I don't know him IRL, because he takes the time to the help the public, does it in a respectful way, and still comes and bullsh!ts with us. There are tons of examples.

Edit: Not saying AA is a bike rider, just an example of someone in the fitness industry who we interact with.

[Ondemand]

Lastly...lol at layne being natty...

What evidence exactly do you have supporting that notion? Please do tell.

Before you tell me to do the same, innocent untill proven guilty

[JasonDB]

Good person? I judge it by my interaction with them. For example, I'd say AA is a good guy even though I don't know him IRL, because he takes the time to the help the public, does it in a respectful way, and still comes and bullsh!ts with us. There are tons of examples.

Edit: Not saying AA is a bike rider, just an example of someone in the fitness industry who we interact with.

Lettuce beef cereal. Alan's jaw aesthetic cannot be obtained natty.

[Ion26]

Good person? I judge it by my interaction with them. For example, I'd say AA is a good guy even though I don't know him IRL, because he takes the time to the help the public, does it in a respectful way, and still comes and bullsh!ts with us. There are tons of examples.

Edit: Not saying AA is a bike rider, just an example of someone in the fitness industry who we interact with.

We're on the same page. I basically saying the same thing, as in getting to know someone through interaction (preferably IRL) and what not

In regards to Layne...I have a hard time beliving him being 200 and 2-4% BF without assistance at competition

[vitornoob]

Alan uses Paleo enhancer stuff....






I don't care if someone is natty or not, but I care if she/he is sacrificing to win!

[juliacheh]

in regards to layne...i have a hard time beliving him being 200 and 2-4% bf without assistance at competition

ok.

[ErickStevens]

Why am I not surprised that Ion is a jealous *******? Go do some split jerks for time or something you kunt.

We're on the same page. I basically saying the same thing, as in getting to know someone through interaction (preferably IRL) and what not

In regards to Layne...I have a hard time beliving him being 200 and 2-4% BF without assistance at competition

[Ion26]

Why am I not surprised that Ion is a jealous *******? Go do some split jerks for time or something you kunt.



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No thanks. I have no interest in looking like him. Also, I never attacked him or his physique...So relax

[ErickStevens]

No thanks. I have no interest in looking like him. Also, I never attacked him or his physique...So relax

I'm pretty sure making accusations of cell tech usage about a natural bodybuilder could be classified as an "attack".

[vitornoob]

No thanks. I have no interest in looking like him. Also, I never attacked him or his physique...So relax

You don't want legs, right?

[Leprechauns1021]

We're on the same page. I basically saying the same thing, as in getting to know someone through interaction (preferably IRL) and what not

In regards to Layne...I have a hard time beliving him being 200 and 2-4% BF without assistance at competition

No thanks. I have no interest in looking like him. Also, I never attacked him or his physique...So relax

Welp, that just about confirms everything. Have fun with your low standards for naturals while being completely ignorant on the subject goals of 2012.

[Dexter3000]

You can always claim "well technically I'm natty"

trollface.mp3

[ErickStevens]

Yeah, when I met Ogus I'm pretty sure I had about six inches of height on him.

[MITCHAPAL00ZA]

Thread officially derailed and transformed to natty or not. Perfectly exemplifies the "nut. Misc phenomenon", that is, any thread in this section will inevitably lead to talk of juice, and/or squats.

[Chuck2600]

If he really is natty I am very impressed. You don't see many guys pull off a physique like that clean these days.

He is not massive or anything, I have a buddy that I know for a fact is natty that has been lifting seriously for like under 3 years that is bigger and has better lifts than him.

[Chuck2600]

I tried to convince a really lean (probably 8-9% bf) 160-170 lbs guy that I was natty this week... he was like, "I've never used anything, but I mean come on your size and lifts you use a little bit... its cool." When I say "No bro just genetics and muscle memory coming back." he is like "Well I mean you are training for meets and things so I totally understand if you do... your secret is safe with me." Ah lawd.

But ur not?? lol

[Lvisaa2]

Thread officially derailed and transformed to natty or not. Perfectly exemplifies the "nut. Misc phenomenon", that is, any thread in this section will inevitably lead to talk of juice, and/or squats.

I call that the "Jason Phenomenon".

[ThatWei]

Didn't we had a thread where we decided Ion should GTFO out of Nmisc?

Anyways, lol @ accusing Ogus & Layne of being on tech despite having no evidence whatsoever considering that Ogus been lifting since 2007 (IIRC) and competed at sub 160, while Layne is one of the smartest guys in the industry and has been training hard for over a decade.

[SimonThePieman]

"non-natty" claims are like the rape charge of lifting. No matter what you do to prove your innocence, the mud sticks and accusing eyes remains

[MiscDemeanor]

I prefer natty peanut butter over the kind with hydrogenated oils in it.

[SimonThePieman]

Yes, but accusations of not being natty should be taken with pride if you are natty because you rustled someone's jimmies. Can't be proud of rape, nomsayin?

I doubt proud lifetime natties take the accusations as compliments over accepting awe at their achievements

[2445ricardo]

I prefer natty peanut butter over the kind with hydrogenated oils in it.

I knew you were synthetic's troll account all along!



notsrs

[Ion26]

Didn't we had a thread where we decided Ion should GTFO out of Nmisc?

Wrong.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...3980571&page=1

[BXR99]

Matt competes at what, 155? If he was on stuff and still that small, suicide would be a great option. .

hes 5'6 i think?

he throws out misc memes in his videos, and hes strong as ****

[snrygo]

I knew you were synthetic's troll account all along!



notsrs

Inb4thebagels

[JasonDB]

He is not massive or anything, I have a buddy that I know for a fact is natty that has been lifting seriously for like under 3 years that is bigger and has better lifts than him.

I'm bigger than him but he still looks better than me. I am refering to the proportion, conditioning and muscle maturity, not his size.

[MITCHAPAL00ZA]

got accused of cell tech a few times (lol, yes I'm serious)...granted it was by non lifters who think protein shakes and creatine are "intense supplementation"...

[peanut-butter]

I believe he's natty. He looks good in off season, but nothing overly impressive. It's how lean and how well conditioned he was that is questionable, if anything - But then again, he did have the king of conditioning, i.e Berto, as his coach.

I think I look like **** and have mediocre genetics, but believe I would be able to achieve his size at 21.

[lee__d]

You don't want legs, right?
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Ion will get those legs via LISS only.