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05-06-2012, 11:31 AM #121
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05-06-2012, 11:32 AM #122
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05-06-2012, 11:32 AM #123
There is no benefit of going over 1g/lb of bodyweight in protein. Any more does not give you any benefits apart from satiety/sanity depending on how you like to eat.
Micronutrients. You only need a certain amount of e.g Vitamin C that is optimal for health. Any more isn't going to ****ing help you, and might cause serious problems.
Let me see. You're craving a poptart. You met almost all your macro needs. You have eaten a wide range of whole, unprocessed foods and all your micronutrient needs have been met. Eating that poptart would by definition be 'healthier' as it fits your Discretionary Calorie Allowance(bet you never heard of it) and can help your mental, and in certain situation even social health.
Herp a derp you miss the ****ing point of moderation.
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05-06-2012, 11:34 AM #124
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05-06-2012, 11:34 AM #125
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05-06-2012, 11:34 AM #126
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05-06-2012, 11:34 AM #127
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05-06-2012, 11:35 AM #128
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05-06-2012, 11:36 AM #129
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05-06-2012, 11:36 AM #130
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05-06-2012, 11:38 AM #131
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05-06-2012, 11:38 AM #132
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05-06-2012, 11:38 AM #133
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05-06-2012, 11:39 AM #134
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05-06-2012, 11:39 AM #135
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05-06-2012, 11:40 AM #136
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05-06-2012, 11:40 AM #137
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05-06-2012, 11:41 AM #138
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05-06-2012, 11:41 AM #139
laugh, and that is what you guys are arguing for when you talk about IIFYM.. Lets hit our macros (which may not be correct to begin with) then fill the rest in with sour patch kids and junk food because we think we hit the macros we needed
you're a bunch of clowns.
everything in this thread arguing for this IIFYM bull**** is small or weak as phuck
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05-06-2012, 11:42 AM #140
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05-06-2012, 11:43 AM #141
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05-06-2012, 11:45 AM #142
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05-06-2012, 11:45 AM #143
the amount of sugar in processed foods is not moderate though. 1 piece of cake is easily 200-300 calories from refined sugar
and lets not pretend you can eat these processed foods "in moderation". you saw OPs meal, 400 calories from sour patch kids, in 1 sitting
enjoy that body fat and not muscle you are building
you people post pics of these random lifters and claim they are on the same diet as you, as if that helps your argument
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05-06-2012, 11:48 AM #144
I don't know what ****ing cake you eat, but one slice does not have that much. There would also be fat added there, so if on sliec would give you 400-700 calories then you're eating one big ass cake not a slice.
We're talking about moderation here. You can eat them in moderation.
Please tell us how is that 'sugar' going to cause you to gain body fat. Really, explain.
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05-06-2012, 11:51 AM #145
IIFYM clearly states that i can eat whatever the fuk i want as long as i fit my macros. Then you ****ers say o you have to fit your micros as well. Then o you have to eat %80 of your diet from nutrient dense foods.
What if i get all my macros from processed foods, all micros from supplements and all fiber from supplements. According to the true definition of IIFYM thats no different than eating 100% clean foods. IIFYM is flawed beyond belief
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05-06-2012, 11:52 AM #146
no you can't, once you start eating that **** it just adds up. people are addicted to sugar, especially refined sugar. it's better to be cold turkey than try to moderate it.
in any case i'd rather be eating protein than **** like sour patch kids/cake
lol @ saying refined sugar doesn't cause you to gain body fat. go read up on refined sugar/insulin guy
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05-06-2012, 11:53 AM #147
IIFYM is Discretionary Calorie Allowane renamed. I've posted what it means, but you're just ignoring it, and making flawed scenarios that do not even apply to real life.
'Clean dieting' is also flawed. What If I eat nothing but rice, chicken and olive oil? That leaves me deficient in mictronutrients and would drive anyone insane.
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05-06-2012, 11:54 AM #148
You. Completely. Ignored. Everything. I said.
30 grams of trans fat is not moderation. I guess this misconception with "IIFYM" will always exist because most people lack the intelligence to understand such a simple concept. I'd have to agree that "flexible dieting" would be a better name, so morons wouldn't think it's about eating 30 grams of trans fat a day.
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05-06-2012, 11:54 AM #149
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05-06-2012, 11:55 AM #150
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