Sweet Potatoes & White(Normal) Potatoes

[WonderPug]

And it's type 2, according to the articles.

Type 3.

You know, the imaginary kind.

[TopStarUSA]

Sweet Potato fries up in here!!

[WonderPug]

^ Those look yummy!!!

[Ratfish]

White rice may be better than brown, but tubers are better than any rice. I eat sweet potatoes all day long at work. Just wash, poke some holes, toss in the microwave.

[pistolpete102]

Hey guys, now I know how I got type 1 diabetes. My parents must have fed me white rice when I was 2!

[PoloRM]

Type 3.

You know, the imaginary kind.

Sarcastic... post is sarcastic.

I really pity the fool who ever posts on these forums looking for help and advice. I came to these forums hoping for some helpful debates, support, new information etc... All I have seen so far is a set of close minded people with, albeit interesting new facts that might have turned everything we knew upside down, might be facts which will be also turned upside down in a decade, as result of new scientific results.

I see people posting treads, after having read tons and tons of articles on the net on bodybuilding websites, including this one, with questions in minds. And all they get is a bunch of sarcastic answers and copy pasted replies, without any explanation whatsoever as to why everything they have read so far might not be true (albeit it might).

You people think everyone is a nutrition expert and should know all this stuff from birth (in this case, what's the point of a forum anyway...) - since after all, they did do their researches and read articles, so you cannot hold them accountable for not "researching". People coming to these forums are obviously people who have been reading articles on BodyBuilding.com in the best interest, and you guys fail to realize that it is only normal that there are so many threads coming from the same mind-set of meal frequency, meal timing etc...

So much for the support and MOTIVATION in these forums.

[PoloRM]

Hey guys, now I know how I got type 1 diabetes. My parents must have fed me white rice when I was 2!

Proper nutrition should not only be about gaining muscle weight and loosing fat. It should be about being HEALTHY, the best way possible, and being aware of what you are eating beyond gaining a few muscle pounds or filling your caloric intake per day. Realizing that most bodybuilders, especially newly starting ones, have a tendency to stick to the same food (because of their fear of trying out new food into their diet), and eat that same food everyday, then we realize that if a certain type of food could have some adverse effect, certainly one should be aware of it, especially if he is eating it day after day, 3 times daily (unlike a regular person not following a certain diet).

[ShinySephiroth]

http://www.google.com/m/url?ei=BbBOT...T_WpUXQFx4is8A

^_^
So much one can do with po-ta-toes...

[HILMAN76]

Just wash, poke some holes, toss in the microwave.

YUP, love nuking sweet potatoes when I'm in a hurry, I toss the sucker in a container, add a tablespoon of water in the container, then loosely close the lid. Let it steam cook for about 10 minutes, MmMMmm yummy goodness.

[MikeK46]

Type 3.

You know, the imaginary kind.

Type 3 is actually diabetes where someone has a combination of Type 1 and Type 2

That is, insulin resistance and insulin deficiency.

[Simmo0508]

Doesn't really make a difference, depends on the overall caloric content and the carb total you're shootin for in that meal. GI concern is only really relevant if you have uneven energy levels and certain foods affect YOUR performance in the gym. Always eat in a fashion that gives you the best workouts possible.

I usually have rice in the meals leading up, and chips post-workout.

[Apex702]

Sarcastic... post is sarcastic.

I really pity the fool who ever posts on these forums looking for help and advice. I came to these forums hoping for some helpful debates, support, new information etc... All I have seen so far is a set of close minded people with, albeit interesting new facts that might have turned everything we knew upside down, might be facts which will be also turned upside down in a decade, as result of new scientific results.

I see people posting treads, after having read tons and tons of articles on the net on bodybuilding websites, including this one, with questions in minds. And all they get is a bunch of sarcastic answers and copy pasted replies, without any explanation whatsoever as to why everything they have read so far might not be true (albeit it might).

You people think everyone is a nutrition expert and should know all this stuff from birth (in this case, what's the point of a forum anyway...) - since after all, they did do their researches and read articles, so you cannot hold them accountable for not "researching". People coming to these forums are obviously people who have been reading articles on BodyBuilding.com in the best interest, and you guys fail to realize that it is only normal that there are so many threads coming from the same mind-set of meal frequency, meal timing etc...

So much for the support and MOTIVATION in these forums

You claimed white rice causes type 2 diabetes. On a nutrition forum. With zero evidence to support it. Now your stupid post is met with sarcasm and you're going to go into a diatribe?

Shtt is retarded.

[x-ray vision]

You claimed white rice causes type 2 diabetes. On a nutrition forum. With zero evidence to support it. Now your stupid post is met with sarcasm and you're going to go into a diatribe?

Shtt is retarded.

To be fair, he said "increased risk" and when asked where he heard this he said it was from Harvard researchers and such a study does exist.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3024208/

I see plenty of issues with the study off the bat. For instance:

Men and women who had high white rice intake were less likely to have European ancestry or to smoke and more likely to have a family history of diabetes.

...

brown rice intake was not associated with ethnicity but with a more health-conscious lifestyle and dietary profile. For example, participants with higher brown rice intake were more physically active, leaner, less likely to smoke or have a family history of diabetes, and had higher intake of fruits, vegetables, and whole grains and lower intake of red meat and trans fat.

The study claims adjustments were made for lifestyle and dietary risk factors (what about lean body mass, since obesity is the main risk associated with developing T2D?), but I don't see how that is possible. I've yet to meet someone that regularly eats brown rice that doesn't do/eat other things typically associated with a "healthy" lifestyle.

However, there are other studies that back up the above study to some degree:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15277155
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18039989

So, PoloRM is guilty of not inserting the word "may" into his statement, but at least it's based on evidence and he's not just another poster that responded with "it's just what I heard" or "prove me wrong."

[Apex702]

To be fair, he said "increased risk" and when asked where he heard this he said it was from Harvard researchers and such a study does exist.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3024208/

I see plenty of issues with the study off the bat. For instance:



The study claims adjustments were made for lifestyle and dietary risk factors (what about lean body mass, since obesity is the main risk associated with developing T2D?), but I don't see how that is possible. I've yet to meet someone that regularly eats brown rice that doesn't do/eat other things typically associated with a "healthy" lifestyle.

However, there are other studies that back up the above study to some degree:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15277155
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18039989

So, PoloRM is guilty of not inserting the word "may" into his statement, but at least it's based on evidence and he's not just another poster that responded with "it's just what I heard" or "prove me wrong."

While I don't dispute the science he may have researched my point was more along the lines that in the end he read it then proceeded to proclaim it on a nutrition board - in a poor context - while at the same time admitting he is not an expert but then became upset that his post was met some sarcasm.

I wouldn't go on to a Windows forum tell everyone there I read OS Tiger is better because I read it somewhere else while pointing out I'm not a software guru then get upset they respond sarcastically.

[pistolpete102]

Proper nutrition should not only be about gaining muscle weight and loosing fat. It should be about being HEALTHY, the best way possible, and being aware of what you are eating beyond gaining a few muscle pounds or filling your caloric intake per day. Realizing that most bodybuilders, especially newly starting ones, have a tendency to stick to the same food (because of their fear of trying out new food into their diet), and eat that same food everyday, then we realize that if a certain type of food could have some adverse effect, certainly one should be aware of it, especially if he is eating it day after day, 3 times daily (unlike a regular person not following a certain diet).

Ya i Know, I was kidding ha

[snorkelman]

...All I have seen so far is a set of close minded people with, albeit interesting new facts that might have turned everything we knew upside down, might be facts which will be also turned upside down in a decade, as result of new scientific results.

I see people posting treads, after having read tons and tons of articles on the net on bodybuilding websites, including this one, with questions in minds. And all they get is a bunch of sarcastic answers and copy pasted replies, without any explanation whatsoever as to why everything they have read so far might not be true (albeit it might).

You people think everyone is a nutrition expert and should know all this stuff from birth (in this case, what's the point of a forum anyway...) - since after all, they did do their researches and read articles, so you cannot hold them accountable for not "researching". ...

Relax. Everyone is learning. Even the posters who are experts continue to learn. Sarcasm comes with the internet - deal with it. Even a newbie can sit back and just lurk and learn massive amounts of information. Just following threads often results in links being posted. So, even a person who doesn't even bother to perform a lit search can usually obtain scientific literature just from reading the threads. Then there will be the next issue of understanding and being able to dissect what they read. But that comes with practice.

[WonderPug]

The study claims adjustments were made for lifestyle and dietary risk factors (what about lean body mass, since obesity is the main risk associated with developing T2D?), but I don't see how that is possible. I've yet to meet someone that regularly eats brown rice that doesn't do/eat other things typically associated with a "healthy" lifestyle.

It seems like confirmation bias to me, re: the Harvard study as physical activity was dramatically higher (~+40%) in the groups that consumed more brown rice and, guess what, physical activity is know to be prophylactic.

The notion that the delta in GI of the two types of rice is causative makes no sense, as the GL of the brown rice groups tended to be equal or higher than the white rice groups.

The folks that were eating white rice frequently were eating dramatically more rice (twice the amount or more) than the folks that were eating brown rice frequently.

And even the family history of diabetes was higher in the white rice groups than in the brown rice groups.

[PoloRM]

You claimed white rice causes type 2 diabetes. On a nutrition forum. With zero evidence to support it. Now your stupid post is met with sarcasm and you're going to go into a diatribe?

Shtt is retarded.

I did mention the source of my findings, and also, I did not say it causes type 2, I said it increases the risk. The only reason I did not post a link is because the forum won't allow me to post a URL until I reach 50 posts, apparently.

My post was not stupid. This is a nutrition forum, and I think it should cover all aspects of healthy nutrition.

Finally, I do not see what the problem is with me pointing out I'm not a Nutrition Expert. I hardly believe anyone on this forum is, short of a few members perhaps. I didn't study Nutrition in university, I'm an expert in other stuff and people ask for my advice in it. To make up for my lack of expertise in Nutrition, I rely on my research and on other experts, and pick out whichever sounds more logical and convincing.

I did not come here waving the flag of Don't Eat White Rice. I simply pointed out that too much white rice might not be a good idea, for the mentioned reason. I would have expected perhaps someone to come and tell me "That's not true, because X, Y Z etc....". I certainly did not expect a series of replies treating me like some sort of clown doing his firetruck scene. I'm always ears for new information, otherwise I wouldn't be here. In fact, I have already calculated my BMR and trying to build a plan to match my goals, based on Wonderpug's advice 2 days ago.

Anyway I'm sorry for the original poster of this thread. It seems I have drifted attention too far away from the initial post. But then again, it's not like he was getting any constructive reply, so it probably doesn't matter

[Apex702]

But white rice has an increased risk of causing diabetes type 2.

This post is going to be met with sarcasm sans merit, citations, links etc. Even if you had linked something, if it's not otherwise credible, you'll likely be met with sarcasm. Why? Well you're essentially posting links to a study that you likely couldn't comprehend intelligently because, at your own admission, are not an expert - I know this because I've done it. It's not something to be so upset with to go into that rant that you posted. Take the sarcasm in stride and learn. No big deal.


Friends? lol

[PoloRM]

This post is going to be met with sarcasm sans merit, citations, links etc. Even if you had linked something, if it's not otherwise credible, you'll likely be met with sarcasm. Why? Well you're essentially posting links to a study that you likely couldn't comprehend intelligently because, at your own admission, are not an expert - I know this because I've done it. It's not something to be so upset with to go into that rant that you posted. Take the sarcasm in stride and learn. No big deal.


Friends? lol

Hah, friends.

Brown rice tastes like crap compared to steamed white rice anyway =) I must admit, this forum is clearly redefining my view on bodybuilding nutrition, and I'm glad.

Cheers!

[WonderPug]

I simply pointed out that too much white rice might not be a good idea...

This statement is true and it applies to absolutely every single food, so it is rather meaningless.

[SuperSaucy688]

So I'm trying to eat clean and have been eating brown rice for quite a while but I'm getting pretty sick of it. So I thought instead of eating 3 meals a day consisting of brown rice I would incorporate potatoes into my diet. My main question is in regards to pre-workout, is it better to eat normal potatoes or sweet potatoes before a workout. Dumb question and it may not even make a difference but I'm curious.

Don't listen to all this retarded bullsh*t that these losers (even though some on here said some good things about potatos without trolling) posted about rice causing diabetes, I know lots of bodybuilders who eat rice and don't experience any problems. But seriously I think white or sweet potato or both of them wouldn't be a bad pre-workout meal, just having some before the workout should be good but having it post-workout(after working out) is the best way to go cause the hard work you've done is making your muscles very desperate for food. Bottom line is both are good for you

[Ampoliros]

just having some before the workout should be good but having it post-workout(after working out) is the best way to go cause the hard work you've done is making your muscles very desperate for food.

???

[PerpetualMotion]

I mean, if you find rice boring, potatoes are not any better.

I don't even ... rice and potatoes are culinary blank canvases!