A few weeks ago I found out I have type II diabetes. My Doc says probably my sups triggered it and everything has to change. I am looking for a new Doc. Searches haven't turned up much info. The bulking has taken it hard, the suggested diets suck. Question is, has anyone tested to find out how certain supps affect blood sugar. CEE, swole, different proteins, green tea, anything. So far I have found pure ALA does a great job lowering the levels and GF pro does not raise them. Any help or links would really be appreciated.
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12-09-2005, 02:39 PM #1
Type II am I done? Doc says so !!
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12-09-2005, 02:43 PM #2
I had my blood tested a few weeks ago while I was loaded with CEE and my blood sugar levels were spot on normal. I was and still am also taking tons of other supps like: green tea, k-r-ala, fish oil, vit c, vit e, ginger, gms powder, taurine, etc.. so none of those appear to effect blood sugar levels. (a least at the doses and frequency I was taking them when tested).
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12-09-2005, 02:43 PM #3
i dont know about the supps triggering it....maybe sped it up, but as far as i know type II has genetic/ hereditary roots that trigger it. (not positive but as far as my knowledge goes)
maybe the supps were involved??? but you were predisposed to it anyway...interesting question though....id definitly seek another opinion like you said. they have drugs out there that can help....i know avandia increases insulin sensitivity.......possible result of type II........but again get the extra checkup, dont take this as medical advice or anything....but just giving you an idea that treatments are out there and i really wouldnt say its all over for you. just see what options are out there and do the best you can. good luckLast edited by HomerJ.Simpson; 12-09-2005 at 02:50 PM.
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12-09-2005, 02:49 PM #4
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12-09-2005, 02:56 PM #5
I doubt that as well. Most protein powders contain splenda, which does not raise insulin levels.
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12-09-2005, 03:22 PM #6
He couldn't tell me which it was, I took a whole box in and put them on his desk. I honestly don't think he had a clue on some of them, he said Saw palmetto was useless!!. As you said I'll bet he is checking it out as he wrote down all the info. We have a follow up next week and I was hoping to get some good input here so I would have some ideas to go in with.
EFA gold
Biotin
Red yeast rice with CoQ10
Lean green
Grape seed extract
Celery seed extract
Sesamin
Phosphatidyl serine
ALC
Pure ALA
7 keto
Lycopene
Optimen
Diesel test
ActivaTe
Gf pro
CEE
Saw palmetto
Anybody see any bad news here?? No PH's for over a year.If it's worth doing check it twice, do it once, enjoy what you did!
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12-09-2005, 03:34 PM #7
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12-09-2005, 03:38 PM #8Originally Posted by calibrated
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12-09-2005, 03:57 PM #9Originally Posted by calibrated
It's most likely genetics and improper nutrition that lead to type II diabetes
I'm guessing your most likely 'overweight', any idea on your body fat %? Most times type 2 is caused by obesity in which cases many people can put it in remission by losing weightCurrent Student of the Dietetic program at Washington State University, Go Cougs!
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12-09-2005, 04:02 PM #10
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12-09-2005, 04:21 PM #11
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12-09-2005, 04:39 PM #12Originally Posted by chlaxmanCurrent Student of the Dietetic program at Washington State University, Go Cougs!
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12-09-2005, 04:42 PM #13
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12-09-2005, 07:02 PM #14
i get hunger cravings on wheat and corn, it may be related to blood sugar problems. you may want to check out what is mentioned about corn and wheat in one of the blood-type diet books (like Live Right For(4) Your Type). i don't know where else the information is presented on these two problematic grains, but they may be contributing factors. i have felt hypoglycemic after corn sugar, and a strange tingly feeling in my extremities on top of that. couldn't tell until i'd gotten off both of those. YMMV of course, but just a thought...
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12-09-2005, 07:13 PM #15
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12-09-2005, 07:13 PM #16
your also taking ala when you were diagnosed with type 2 diabetes??
i missed that before, now it definately sounds like a genetics, obesity, diet related case unless calibrated is one of the very rare casesLast edited by McBurly; 12-09-2005 at 07:17 PM.
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12-09-2005, 07:22 PM #17Originally Posted by McBurly
What would you guys suggest I add or drop out of the supp selection?? Thanks for the answers.If it's worth doing check it twice, do it once, enjoy what you did!
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12-09-2005, 07:35 PM #18Originally Posted by McBurlyIf it's worth doing check it twice, do it once, enjoy what you did!
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12-09-2005, 07:36 PM #19Originally Posted by calibrated
What kind of test did they run on you?Current Student of the Dietetic program at Washington State University, Go Cougs!
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12-09-2005, 07:41 PM #20
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12-09-2005, 07:44 PM #21
Also, if you were taking any of the following drugs it would cause higher than normal glucose levels
Tricyclic antidepressants
Corticosteroids
Diazoxide
Intravenous dextrose
Diuretics
Epinephrine
Estrogens
Glucagon
Isoniazid
Lithium
Phenothiazines
Phenytoin
Salicylates
TriamtereneCurrent Student of the Dietetic program at Washington State University, Go Cougs!
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12-09-2005, 07:44 PM #22
Many forms of severe stress (for example, trauma, stroke, heart attack, and surgery) can temporarily increase glucose levels.
straight from http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/003482.htm
a lot of useful info thereLast edited by McBurly; 12-09-2005 at 07:49 PM.
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12-09-2005, 07:49 PM #23
They ran a standard fasting line of blood tests and it showed up at 211. Next at his office was the meter test 123 then something that he called an average that was 200. Even with 8 samples ED, scanned into the PC with Accu-Check, for three weeks he won't reconsider he says 120-130 is too high. By using the ALA or heavy exercise I can get it to a range that makes him happy.
What should I drop or add from my supp list?? Thanks.If it's worth doing check it twice, do it once, enjoy what you did!
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12-09-2005, 07:54 PM #24
Ala and exercise will definately help, your best bet would be to stick with low GI foods or buy some bulk fiber and take some with meals that are high in carbs. If I remember correctly 600mg - 900mg ala is the best dose to take with 3 meals with the most carbs in them is the most effective dosing, I need to dig up that chart if I can find it.
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12-09-2005, 08:03 PM #25Originally Posted by calibrated
But I don't claim to be a supplement know all... yet at leastCurrent Student of the Dietetic program at Washington State University, Go Cougs!
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12-09-2005, 08:27 PM #26Originally Posted by McBurlyIf it's worth doing check it twice, do it once, enjoy what you did!
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12-09-2005, 09:49 PM #27
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