Creatine Mono. vs CEE

[AnabolicMaximus]

Ok, Im confused. I know that the newer types of creatine are more advanced and thus "better" for various reasons. CEE being one of them. Products like Animal Pump use more "efficient" types of creatine. So, my question is - if these better creatine formulas exist (making mono outdated)- why is it that whenever a pro. or experienced bodybuilder talks about his creatine supp. he always refers to it as "creatine mono." Does this mean that mono is better than the new forms of creatine or are they just using "mono" as an umbrella term for any supp. containing creatine?

what do you guys think?

[patrickhalferty7]

Mono is time tested and proven to be a great supp. the other are not as sturdy in their foundation and studies. While they may end up being as good as they claim for now the most tested and proven form is mono.

[Elliptical Envy]

Mono is time tested and proven to be a great supp. the other are not as sturdy in their foundation and studies. While they may end up being as good as they claim for now the most tested and proven form is mono.

Yep ^^^^

[EZ-Bar]

ive never used anything but mono.

[PalmTree]

ive never used anything but mono.

me either

[Selode5]

i tried cellmass, which is cee, and celltech, which is mono. i have to say celltech is much better, and i only used half the dose, which is 5g of creatine.

i cant say i made any gains with cellmass at all...

[805SLIM]

I been using High Power CEE and it works for me. I cycled it for about 3 months and gained about 10 lbs. and noticed myself getting stronger. I stayed off it for 2 months and when I got on it again I gained 25lbs on bench. I noticed faster gains in strength too.
A co-worker also saw good results from it.

[The Brotherhood]

Why do they bother to add search functions to forums?

CEE is junk http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2510171

[XpandemoniumX]

Why do they bother to add search functions to forums?

CEE is junk http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2510171

CEE is not junk...everyone knows its not backed by as much data as CrM. Duh. Just like any other drug tho that doesn't mean that it isn't effective. I go into detail why I like CEE here:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3073071

In short though, I use Higher Power's CEE and I have very nice results. To answer the OP tho I'm pretty sure that pros use CrM because it is more proven and when your body is that finely tuned you wouldn't want to risk switching products and having adverse affects (regardless of whether there actually are any) just for a boost in convenience. Also like I said in the post linked above, some people like the CrM bloat...even if you don't "bloat" exactly to my knowledge your body still stores more water near your muscles due to the excess creatine than it would with CEE.

[The Brotherhood]

CEE is not junk...everyone knows its not backed by as much data as CrM. Duh. Just like any other drug tho that doesn't mean that it isn't effective. I go into detail why I like CEE here:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3073071

In short though, I use Higher Power's CEE and I have very nice results. To answer the OP tho I'm pretty sure that pros use CrM because it is more proven and when your body is that finely tuned you wouldn't want to risk switching products and having adverse affects (regardless of whether there actually are any) just for a boost in convenience. Also like I said in the post linked above, some people like the CrM bloat...even if you don't "bloat" exactly to my knowledge your body still stores more water near your muscles due to the excess creatine than it would with CEE.

Creatine is not a drug. I stopped reading your post there.

[XpandemoniumX]

Creatine is not a drug. I stopped reading your post there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug

don't be stupid

[skoolbus]

Wow! Such fanboys of Mono... first off,, I take CellMass, and I'm so sick of haters. I'll will say this with confidence, I have a better physique than most who claim Mono is the way to go. I'm not pointing out names.

I've put on a good 7 pounds with CellMass, I take it 6 hours before workout and immediately afterwards. Thankfully I work out late at night, so when I sleep the creatine is still in my system.

I'm not saying Mono doesn't work, but lets get real, CEE does work. Don't call it garbage. No more product haters. Everyone's body reacts different, and then there are also people who don't eat and sleep properly, your diet means everything.

CEE does not make your head blow up like a balloon (and I ONLY speak from past experiences with creatine back in the day, I call it Tito Ortiz head). As for CEE, I don't feel like a balloon, and when I cycle off I don't look like a crackhead (exaggeration).

The only other products I take is HMB (Leukic) and sometimes No-Xplode on days I need energy after work.

[The Brotherhood]

Wow! Such fanboys of Mono... first off,, I take CellMass, and I'm so sick of haters. I'll will say this with confidence, I have a better physique than most who claim Mono is the way to go. I'm not pointing out names.

I've put on a good 7 pounds with CellMass, I take it 6 hours before workout and immediately afterwards. Thankfully I work out late at night, so when I sleep the creatine is still in my system.

I'm not saying Mono doesn't work, but lets get real, CEE does work. Don't call it garbage. No more product haters. Everyone's body reacts different, and then there are also people who don't eat and sleep properly, your diet means everything.

CEE does not make your head blow up like a balloon (and I ONLY speak from past experiences with creatine back in the day, I call it Tito Ortiz head). As for CEE, I don't feel like a balloon, and when I cycle off I don't look like a crackhead (exaggeration).

The only other products I take is HMB (Leukic) and sometimes No-Xplode on days I need energy after work.

Read my link. CEE has anecdotal evidence to show that it works. First off, this is not a credible form of information. That aside, CEE is hazardous as it is highly unstable in neutral pH. THIS is the main issue with CEE

[Eyeamfireproof]

I am taking Animal Pump right now and take Creatine Mono on my off days to keep the creatine in my system. Is it bad to be mixing the cee and mono?

[_Mazza_]

I am taking Animal Pump right now and take Creatine Mono on my off days to keep the creatine in my system. Is it bad to be mixing the cee and mono?

That should be fine, I think a lot of people do that with their NO products as it saves money and makes it last longer.

If you train every other day it's the difference between a month supply of animal pump and 2 months, plus NO on non-workout days isn't that beneficial.

[Ace28]

Tough to beat the price of mono!

[esquire415]

I'm more curious about Kre-Alkalyn. Anyone think this is better than Creapure CrM or CEE?

http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/cr...n-creatine.htm

[The Brotherhood]

I'm more curious about Kre-Alkalyn. Anyone think this is better than Creapure CrM or CEE?

http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/cr...n-creatine.htm

nope.

[waiting4hercall]

Ok, Im confused. I know that the newer types of creatine are more advanced and thus "better" for various reasons. CEE being one of them. Products like Animal Pump use more "efficient" types of creatine. So, my question is - if these better creatine formulas exist (making mono outdated)- why is it that whenever a pro. or experienced bodybuilder talks about his creatine supp. he always refers to it as "creatine mono." Does this mean that mono is better than the new forms of creatine or are they just using "mono" as an umbrella term for any supp. containing creatine?

what do you guys think?

mono must be cycled you get better size gains and a better pump wich happens when adp is increased this is proven ... Cee doesnt have to be cycled since there is a less size gain you retain less water and get a great pump its really a matter of prefrence

[The Brotherhood]

mono must be cycled you get better size gains and a better pump wich happens when adp is increased this is proven ... Cee doesnt have to be cycled since there is a less size gain you retain less water and get a great pump its really a matter of prefrence

ADP is not increased, ATP is. an ATP increase does not result in a pump lol. Mono doesn't have to by cycled.

Strong bad advice

[brn4baseball12]

Well BSN Cellmass works for me. Two bottles of mono didnt do much for me. And one bottle of kre-alkalyn did nothing. Cellmass which has ethyl ester is workin great!

[uansari1]

i tried cellmass, which is cee, and celltech, which is mono. i have to say celltech is much better, and i only used half the dose, which is 5g of creatine.

i cant say i made any gains with cellmass at all...

Bro, Celltech has 7 types of creatine in it. Mono is just the first one.

[oopsguy]

Creatine mono is for those ppl that don't care about carb intake.. cuz creatine mono needs a wad of insulin in your blood stream to be delivered to muscle tissues!!! so to get this insulin, simple carbs are needed and in big portions about 50 grams will do the trick.. so if you don't care about crab intake creatine mono is fantastic.. Yes it should be cycled to be sure your body don't get used to it.. and you'll feel the results!
Creatine ethyl ester or simpply CEE is somewhat insulin independent.. and is less irritating for stomach and is needed in somewhat smaller amounts because more efficiently absorbed .... So try both and see what worked best for you! that's the best way!!! different bodies responds differently to various supplements... !
Hope it was good info .. later !

[V.H.9.8.4.]

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After reading replies in this thread, I have concluded that it mostly depends on the individual. Some say they make better gains with CEE than creatine mono, some dont get any gains. Some say they make better gains with mono instead of CEE. You really just need to try both and see which works best for you. That's it. It doesnt matter if there is evidence backing one and not the other. CEE could be better, but it hasnt been tested yet. Mono may be proven, but if someone eats a lot of meat (which contains small amounts of mono) they wont respond as well, and could need CEE. Others might not respond to CEE. I kiinda repeated myself a bit, but whatever you get the point

It depends on the individual, try both.

[OneBetter]

Creatine mono is for those ppl that don't care about carb intake.. cuz creatine mono needs a wad of insulin in your blood stream to be delivered to muscle tissues!!! so to get this insulin, simple carbs are needed and in big portions about 50 grams will do the trick.. so if you don't care about crab intake creatine mono is fantastic.. Yes it should be cycled !

big swing and a miss

[dvsness]

big swing and a miss

He needs to change his sig.

[Lax891122]

Creatine mono is for those ppl that don't care about carb intake.. cuz creatine mono needs a wad of insulin in your blood stream to be delivered to muscle tissues!!! so to get this insulin, simple carbs are needed and in big portions about 50 grams will do the trick.. so if you don't care about crab intake creatine mono is fantastic.. Yes it should be cycled to be sure your body don't get used to it.. and you'll feel the results!
Creatine ethyl ester or simpply CEE is somewhat insulin independent.. and is less irritating for stomach and is needed in somewhat smaller amounts because more efficiently absorbed .... So try both and see what worked best for you! that's the best way!!! different bodies responds differently to various supplements... !
Hope it was good info .. later !

Oops, you messed up guy. While the ideas are OK, the reasoning is not.

[ee09]

Creatine is not a drug. I stopped reading your post there.

Do you know what a drug is? A multi-vitamin is a drug.

I hate when people post just to say "use the search" or only have rude comments about everything. If this thread bothers you then find something else to read.

[Sammy5150]

That should be fine, I think a lot of people do that with their NO products as it saves money and makes it last longer.

If you train every other day it's the difference between a month supply of animal pump and 2 months, plus NO on non-workout days isn't that beneficial.

Agree, I use SAN fierce (contains CEE and NO) on training days, and just a normal creatine mono on rest days, make my Fierce last longer and saves me $$$

[uansari1]

Creatine mono is for those ppl that don't care about carb intake.. cuz creatine mono needs a wad of insulin in your blood stream to be delivered to muscle tissues!!! so to get this insulin, simple carbs are needed and in big portions about 50 grams will do the trick.. so if you don't care about crab intake creatine mono is fantastic.. Yes it should be cycled to be sure your body don't get used to it.. and you'll feel the results!
Creatine ethyl ester or simpply CEE is somewhat insulin independent.. and is less irritating for stomach and is needed in somewhat smaller amounts because more efficiently absorbed .... So try both and see what worked best for you! that's the best way!!! different bodies responds differently to various supplements... !
Hope it was good info .. later !

Not sure exactly what point you're trying to make, but just to clarify... CrM is best taken (i.e. absorbed) immediately post workout mixed into any beverage with simple carbs (sucrose, dextrose, maltodextrin, etc.). Post workout, you WANT to spike your insulin by taking a decent amount of simple carbs and a lot of protein and amino acids. That's how you switch your body from catabolic mode (which occurs whenever you damage muscle through weight lifting) to anabolic mode. After your post workout "meal", which should have a good amount of high glycemic carbs and protein, you can cut back on the carbs again.