Very usefull, thanks
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02-03-2010, 05:46 AM #246
I have no problem keeping my lower back arched on light warm-up sets, but once I got to about 185 lbs my lower back simply can't product enough force to keep that arch. I can feel my lower back round slightly during the beginning of the rep, but then it goes back to arched once my back angle decreases enough that the moment decreases on my back.
Could it be a form issue, a lower back activation issue, or a weak spot issue? I added back in the 2 sets of weighted hyperextensions on my monday workouts (following madcow's 5x5) hoping that will strengthen my lower back so I can maintain my arch. I also don't think it's an activation issue because I can maintain the arch on lighter sets, it's just the heavy sets where I can't keep my back straight.
One time I saw a guy in the gym deadlifting like 400+ lbs, and I noticed his lower back was rounded a little bit just like mine was. And after he finished his set he said to his friend he can't keep his lower back straight when the weight gets that heavy. So I know I'm not alone here.
I'm also not sure if the back position I am trying to maintain is really hyperextension, and lifting a heavy weight resets my back position to the natural arch. I'm also not sure about the glute activation deal... I find that flexing my glutes rounds my lower back. Though I've also read an aricle that indicates I have anterior pelvic tilt, meaning that my lower back is chronically hyperextended.
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02-16-2010, 07:14 PM #249
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One more thing
One more thing that I would like to see discussed is how the depth at which people squat down to pick up the bar is limited a lot of times by poor hip flexibility. If the hip, hamstrings, and glutes are tight that can prevent a lot of beginners from being able to perform the lift properly. This will result in rounding of the lumbar and creating a huge possibility for injuries.
Also, if people are very much beginners then they may want to consult with a professional to work with them directly since it is hard to watch for everything at once while performing this lift.
Other than that, the video is very thought out, nice work!
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03-01-2010, 01:31 PM #252
Im new to deadlifting ive been slacking on these and squats for awhile until I started realizing how necessary these moves were, I always thought I would hurt my back or knees lol. My interest is in this rack pull. I am not trying to really compete in powerlifting if anything if I had to choose it would be bodybuilding so am I right in assuming that based off reading the description of the rack pull it would serve a better purpose to me because it hits the back, hams, glutes more but not so much the quads or am I just selling myself short by doing these?
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03-02-2010, 04:47 AM #254
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From a bodybuilding perspective, the rack pull is probably more beneficial. It is able to load up more weight than a deadlift, and isn't as much of an "all around" lift.
If you do not have any pain, then most likely you are fine. You could have an injury. You can get injuries from one single exercise repetition. But again, if you do not feel any adverse effects, chances are you're good.-
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03-12-2010, 04:59 AM #259
form
Quick question,
When I deadlift, I am keeping aware that:
-my arms are straight
-the bar is against my legs
-my shoulders are above the bar at start
-my shoulders are back, chest up
-lower back is straight, abdomen is tight
-looking forward
Despite that, I tend to feel the exercise more in my lower back than my hamstrings and upper back. When recovering, I do not get any sort of delayed onset muscle soreness or injury-related pain in my lower back, just regular post-workout soreness.
What I'm guessing is that my lower back is simply being exercised and it's not a problem. But I read that I should feel it more in my hams and upper back. Any idea what the problem could be, if there is one? (I guess I'll have to post a video at some point).
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03-22-2010, 04:50 PM #263I have no problem keeping my lower back arched on light warm-up sets, but once I got to about 185 lbs my lower back simply can't product enough force to keep that arch. I can feel my lower back round slightly during the beginning of the rep, but then it goes back to arched once my back angle decreases enough that the moment decreases on my back.Workout Journal:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=671314451
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03-30-2010, 01:40 PM #264
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03-31-2010, 04:38 AM #266
Cleared up a LOT, repped. Recently made deadlifts a priority in my workout, been feeling a tugging on the left side of my spine when I tilt my head forward to the right... going to put it down to a bit of strain and DOMS but was wondering if anyone else experiences any back pain when performing just normal deadlifts?
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04-05-2010, 06:35 PM #267
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Really appreciate this thread, man. Got online specifically to study deadlifts, and there it was. So here's my question: I started a new split about a month ago...chest/tris, legs/shoulders, back and bis. Each one 2x a week. No surprises there. The point of the program is high weights, low reps (obviously), and two sets of each exercise. So, I had taken about a month off when I started the split, started low and then began adding weight. I'm now ready to increase weight again. Here's my question: because the deadlift is a "major" compound exercise, I've been doing a warm-up set--not ridiculously light, but lighter--before my first set. Last time I was thinking...well...the whole point of this is high weights...so I skipped my warm-up weight. The first time felt weird (not bad, not painful...just sorta unexpected). I've done it a second time now, and I think I was more prepared for it.
My question...is this bad? I feel very comfortable starting with a challenging weight on shoulder press...bb bicep curls...whatever...but I'd never bench without running through a practice set or two. All advice appreciated."I just don't want to hear you say someday that you're on Creatine."--Katie
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04-12-2010, 04:34 AM #270
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I certainly would advocate warm up sets. When you are first starting out, and weights are not as high, you can get away with no warm ups. As you are using higher weights for your sets, it is increasingly harder on yoru body. Not to mention as you get older, it takes a bit more time. You are priming your nervous system, getting your joints moving well, etc, to be prepared for a heavy lift.
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