I am about to give up on personal training. I have a CSCS and BS in Kinesiology, and take my MMA training very seriously (hope to fight professionally soon). Fitness and martial arts are my life, and I've always taken a very scientific approach to training.
And that is what screws me over with clients. They don't like the fact that I take it so seriously. All I get are blank stares all day, and the clients never come back. And then the sales staff stops giving me new ones, because nobody likes the way I train.
That's why I currently work one night per week, and that's it! I need a new job. What else should I do?
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Thread: Frustrated
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06-26-2009, 04:49 PM #1
Frustrated
email: thaifighter83@yahoo.com
nickname: ThaiFighter83
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06-26-2009, 05:22 PM #2
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06-26-2009, 06:30 PM #3
Let's think outside the box for a minute. You train for MMA. MMA fighters are some of the worlds best conditioned athletes. Maybe you're "barking up the wrong tree". Put an MMA spin into your training, maybe even offer a cardio MMA workout? Advertise for athletes, not just run of the mill gym rats. Maybe the corporate gym isn't for you.
I left training a major gym chain and opened up my own studio with barely any clients. I offer cardio boxing, kickboxing, cardio mma, my own version of caveman training called Primal Strength, as well as weight loss boot camps. I've transitioned away from one on one training and gone to small groups. More money with less work. Totally the best thing I ever did.
Train with YOUR strengths. Add some MMA flavor. You will become the new hottest trainer around!Chris Dwelle
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06-27-2009, 11:44 AM #4
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This. With your BS, CSCS, and MMA training experience I would definitely try to market myself toward aspiring MMA athletes and try to train them instead of general fitness population. With the exploding popularity of UFC and MMA in general, you could have a huge market there, and also appeal to people who will appreciate legitimate training like yours.
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06-27-2009, 12:47 PM #5
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06-27-2009, 02:53 PM #6
you guys are right. I am barking up the wrong tree. I've always worked better with guys than girls...and 95% of the people who buy training at health clubs are girls!!! No wonder I've never been successful. I must start putting ads on craigslist advertising MMA training and not personal training (or maybe both). And I really gotta push my coach to get me some professional fights (which I have been doing).
email: thaifighter83@yahoo.com
nickname: ThaiFighter83
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06-28-2009, 07:10 PM #7
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06-29-2009, 09:37 PM #8
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06-29-2009, 09:57 PM #9
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06-30-2009, 06:09 AM #10
Maybe it's something else? I tend to get people who are more serious like brides to be with timetables, younger kids wanting to gain muscle, athletes and people who have seriously worked with trainers before. While not everyone I want to work with is as serious and and as passionate this tends to be my niche. Every now and then I get someone who is not to this level so I adjust accordingly and train them as hard as they'll allow me.
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06-30-2009, 11:38 AM #11
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07-09-2009, 08:33 AM #12
Exactly. And the market's even bigger online - you wouldn't just be limited to the MMA guys in your immediate area. Someone with your kind of passion who walks the walk would transfer very well online. You'd be providing real value to thousands of readers who would appreciate your knowledge and skill - and would even pay for it, which isn't a bad thing.
I like to make money while I work out - how about you?
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07-09-2009, 09:39 AM #13
Remember that personal training is like any other business out there. 4/5 of what you do has nothing to do with training other people to be fit. It's mostly about marketing yourself, making yourself loook appealing to potential clients and being a good businessman.
You've got to remember that as a personal trainer, your level of interest exceeds 99% of all other people out there. These people have hired you because they cannot do it on their own. You need to remember that. You'll probably have little in common with the people you train, as far as fitness goes. They haven't read the textbooks that you have, they haven't spent the years in the gym you have, etc etc. You've got to put things on their level. Cater to their needs, not your own. Give them information they can work with.
If a phone repair guy came to your house and started rambling on and on about new technologies and using terminology you didn't understand, you'd probably get him in and out as fast as you could and avoid him in the future. Well it's the same way when you're too hardcore with your clients.
Try to seek out clients that are up your alley. When I started training I geared towards those in my circles. Firefighters, paramedics, police officers, aspiring military and SWAT officers, MMA athletes, bodybuilders, etc. These are people who can relate to a lot of what I'm saying and I understand their needs. ExtremeEnigma's advice was solid, in that you should look to the MMA world. With your degree, CSCS and MMA experience you've got a lot of potential.
Do what a lot of businesses do, offer your services one time for free. Go to an MMA gym and run a class or session for free. The gym will likely welcome an instructor with credentials teaching for free. You'll probably have to earn some trust with the owner first, but that's easy if you're personable and know your stuff. Make yourself some business cards and give them out at the class. Leave a bunch of them at the front desk so people can take them. This free lesson could get you a fair amount of business.Last edited by smokeater; 07-09-2009 at 09:42 AM.
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07-10-2009, 05:39 AM #14
Perhaps the strongest lesson we were thought when I was studying was that you can't train a person a particular way because YOU like it. You are not training YOU; you are training them. If you want clients to come back to you, you have to get them doing things that THEY like.
I take training very seriously and I have a full schedule of clients. You can still make it fun while being serious about it.
I regularly do bag work with clients and am considering doing some sparring with some of them. However, I would never just assume that this is something that they want to do. I would ask them first.
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07-20-2009, 09:48 AM #15
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07-20-2009, 11:49 PM #16
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07-21-2009, 12:47 AM #17
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Sounds like a relationship building problem more than anything else. Just cos you're a serious person doesn't mean people won't train with you, granted they still like you and the service you're providing.
If you rub them off the wrong way though and in your heart you know you've done nothing wrong and just been yourself etc, then often it's just a normal personality clash. That's life. Move on to the next person.
If you want my advice, market to a certain group that often appreciate the more serious approach and don't care for the friendly babysitter crap. Male athletes and sports teams for example.advertising/self-promotion not permitted
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