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08-22-2008, 07:16 PM #91
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08-22-2008, 07:18 PM #92
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08-22-2008, 07:18 PM #93
Experience is key in a discipline like bodybuilding. It's individualistic and always a work in progress.
After you've been lifting for a few years..Had a couple injuries...Progress has had it's ups and downs....Your cocky know it all attitude will change. This is meant to be constructive criticism....Not an attack!
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08-22-2008, 07:19 PM #94
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08-22-2008, 07:21 PM #95
Yes, you read that wrong.
My original statement was this:
"How beneficial pull ups are has a lot to do with bodyweight and how many reps people can do in perfect form when they start out."
After that I was giving my own personal experience with pullups.
And maybe you do know some heavy guys who have no problems with pullups, but there's a lot more who do. They are not the best movement for heavy guys. Perhaps thats why you don't see too many pros doing pullups in their training videos...because they have trouble doing them well.
The only pro who I saw (on video) doing pullups recently was Victor Martinez, and he was doing a partial pullup with his chin nowhere near the bar. Go back and check out Lee Haney doing them...not easy either.
Let's take Jay Cutler for example. He weighs around 300 lbs or more off season. He uses the full stack on lat pulldowns at 300 lbs with cheating (swinging) form. How many pullups in good form do you think he could do?
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08-22-2008, 07:21 PM #96
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08-22-2008, 07:22 PM #97
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im really trying to be open minded and listen/take advice here. squattillyoudrop i see what you're saying, but nads and defiant i really don't want to just go back and forth arguing over pointless crap. the topic is getting totally derailed and that was not my intent. ill say for the third time i shouldn't have made a blanket statement. does that help?
-Kim
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08-22-2008, 07:25 PM #98
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08-22-2008, 07:31 PM #104
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08-22-2008, 07:31 PM #105
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08-22-2008, 07:33 PM #107
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08-22-2008, 07:34 PM #108
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Last edited by jdmalm123; 08-22-2008 at 07:34 PM. Reason: PS - It's almost as funny that we think it might be!!!
"Suffer the pain of discipline or suffer the pain of regret."
Training regularly but no progress?
You need one or more of these: more food, more weight, more reps or more rest.
Check out: www.muscleandbrawn.com
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08-22-2008, 07:38 PM #109
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08-22-2008, 07:40 PM #110
You'll never see 200 lb guys winning pullup competitions. You'll never see heavy champion rock climbers either. The big guys will have more absolute strength, but in strength to weight ratios the small guys will always win.
Sure, you'll find some gifted heavyweight freaks of nature who will do plenty of pullups, but they'll never beat the good lightweight guys.
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08-22-2008, 07:40 PM #111
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08-22-2008, 07:42 PM #112
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08-22-2008, 07:43 PM #113
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08-22-2008, 07:44 PM #114
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