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    I did AD for a little over 2 months for a recomp...had great results. If interested I'll show you a comparison
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    Hey bro -- I doubt a mild PH makes you unnatural lol -- with your physique I would have guessed at moderate gear usage for sure.




    Can I make a few suggestions?



    First off -- make sure you're subtracting fiber from carbs -- that's very important.

    Second, if you are super strict at the beginning, you get into keto faster and your body becomes fat adapted quicker (which usualyl takes about 4-8 weeks). You probably can get away with a few more carbs than most, but I wouldn't try at the beginning -- at my most ripped on KETO (4% @ 155lbs) I could get away with 100g carbs no problem but I had been fat adapted for about 6months.

    Everything looks good so far -- can't wait to see what this does for you bro.
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    this should be good

    ive heard alot of mixed views on bulking with high carbs and with low carbs
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    Originally Posted by MarkVI View Post
    Hey bro -- I doubt a mild PH makes you unnatural lol -- with your physique I would have guessed at moderate gear usage for sure.




    Can I make a few suggestions?



    First off -- make sure you're subtracting fiber from carbs -- that's very important.

    Second, if you are super strict at the beginning, you get into keto faster and your body becomes fat adapted quicker (which usualyl takes about 4-8 weeks). You probably can get away with a few more carbs than most, but I wouldn't try at the beginning -- at my most ripped on KETO (4% @ 155lbs) I could get away with 100g carbs no problem but I had been fat adapted for about 6months.

    Everything looks good so far -- can't wait to see what this does for you bro.
    Doesn't the Anabolic Diet not want Ketosis?

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    Wow, easy subbed. Looking forward to how much more ripped you can possibly get. You're an inspiration man thx.
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    Subbed for sure, I've been looking at trying this. Also judging by your pics there's no way I would of guessed you were 5'7" you look 6' atleast, your a beast!
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    hey ave you checked out the keto recipe section yet? craving sweets yet ? hehe
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    Originally Posted by PacMan8 View Post
    For competition..I've heard Dave Palumbo's Cutting Diet does wonders. But you have to follow the exact template to the T. There is a huge thread on this site somewhere. Its also a no-carb diet.
    Cool... I'll have to check it out.

    Originally Posted by daYDreAmErX View Post
    The one I buy is liquid, the macros are (for 1 tbsp) :

    50 cals
    0g protein
    0g carb
    5g fat
    Good deal... I've read that its good for mixing with your PWO protein shake... is that how you used it?

    Originally Posted by nads786 View Post
    in this should be intersting

    i did a keto diet for a month but i needed the carbs, hopefully you have better results
    This isn't a true keto diet... I get to carb up on the weekends, so it should be fine. I don't think I could handle being stuck in no carb land forever either.

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    subbed.........looking forward to see how it works, and with the detail you put on your logs i'm sure i will learn alot abut tis diet
    Thanks for following man... I'll try not to disappoint!

    Originally Posted by stillhungry View Post
    Subbed. I've found this site to be useful for computing the macros on meals: http://www.nutritiondata.com/

    You can load your "pantry" using items in their database and also add your own custom items. And you can create recipes from the items in your pantry.
    Thanks for the link... I'm actually using a program called CalorieKing that does pretty much the same thing. It has a vast database of foods, plus you can create custom foods as well.

    Originally Posted by lax28 View Post
    HELL YEA!! subbed

    And damn bro honestly...every time i see your pics..looks like you gained 10 lbs!

    good luck, courious to see what results you get and how it works for bulking
    Haha, if only that were true... I'd be at least 250lbs by now!!!

    Originally Posted by Surive123 View Post
    I did AD for a little over 2 months for a recomp...had great results. If interested I'll show you a comparison
    Definately, I'm interested in seeing other's results with this diet.

    Originally Posted by MarkVI View Post
    Hey bro -- I doubt a mild PH makes you unnatural lol -- with your physique I would have guessed at moderate gear usage for sure.

    Can I make a few suggestions?

    First off -- make sure you're subtracting fiber from carbs -- that's very important.

    Second, if you are super strict at the beginning, you get into keto faster and your body becomes fat adapted quicker (which usualyl takes about 4-8 weeks). You probably can get away with a few more carbs than most, but I wouldn't try at the beginning -- at my most ripped on KETO (4% @ 155lbs) I could get away with 100g carbs no problem but I had been fat adapted for about 6months.

    Everything looks good so far -- can't wait to see what this does for you bro.
    Technically I'm not natural anymore, meaning I can't compete in a natural bb'ing show, but I agree with you... a mild PH cycle isn't in the same league as the real stuff.

    Thanks for the suggestions... yes, I'm subtracting fiber from my carbs... I had 20g fiber yesterday, but only 10g today... thats probably something I need to work on. I understand what you mean about the carb levels... I'm going to try and keep them below 40g... I just don't see how I can get below 30g right now without dropping milk entirely, and I really don't want to do that.

    Originally Posted by brick_outhouse View Post
    this should be good

    ive heard alot of mixed views on bulking with high carbs and with low carbs
    Hopefully I can give a good review of this diet!

    Originally Posted by Shinjan View Post
    Wow, easy subbed. Looking forward to how much more ripped you can possibly get. You're an inspiration man thx.
    Thanks man... I appreciate the support.

    Originally Posted by kranked View Post
    Subbed for sure, I've been looking at trying this. Also judging by your pics there's no way I would of guessed you were 5'7" you look 6' atleast, your a beast!
    Haha, thats cool... but trust me, I'm not 6' tall.

    Originally Posted by gainmusclefast
    hey ave you checked out the keto recipe section yet? craving sweets yet ? hehe
    I didn't crave sweets before... I doubt I will now, lol... I'm pretty content to eat my hamburger and cheese, and bacon and eggs!
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    Originally Posted by Hola Bola View Post
    Definately, I'm interested in seeing other's results with this diet.
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    2 months. Lost almost 30 pounds yet pushing the same weight...got stronger in back and shoulders though.
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    Day 2 - 7/15/08

    Weight = 209 (-5lbs)

    Meal #1
    4 large eggs
    3 slices bacon
    1 tbsp butter
    4 oz 2% milk
    1 scoop protein powder
    2 tabs Uni-Liver
    Totals = 47.5g fat, 68g protein, 8g carbs, 832 cals

    Meal #2
    6 oz Chunk Light Tuna in Oil
    2 cups mixed greens
    2 tbsp Caesar dressing
    1 oz Colby Jack cheese
    Totals = 43g fat, 47g protein, 3.5g carbs, 604 cals

    Meal #3
    8 oz ground beef, 80% lean
    2 slices Swiss cheese
    Totals = 57g fat, 50.5g protein, 2g carbs, 729 cals

    PWO Shake
    2 scoops whey protein
    Totals = 4g fat, 52g protein, 4g carbs, 420 cals

    Meal #4
    8 oz boneless Pork chops
    1 cup green beans
    Totals = 56g fat, 52.5g protein, 4g carbs, 760 cals

    Meal #5
    4 large eggs
    3 slices bacon
    1 tbsp butter
    4 oz 2% milk
    Totals = 45.5g fat, 37g protein, 6g carbs, 610 cals

    Meal #6
    4 oz 2% Milk
    1 scoop Milk & Egg protein powder
    2 tbsp Naturally More Peanut Butter
    1 ANIMAL Omega
    2 tabs Uni-Liver
    Totals = 20.5g fat, 41g protein, 14g carbs, 477 cals

    Water Intake = 1.5 gallons

    Daily Totals = 273.5g fat, 346g protein, 41.5g carbs, 4370 cals

    Thoughts: Still going well... although I woke up today with a stuffy nose and I've been sneezing alot today. I've also had a headache or two, but they always seem to go away as soon as I drink a small glass of milk (4 oz). My energy levels were fine during the day. My workout was another story though... I went into it feeling great, and the first 30 minutes were awesome. After that I started to feel like I'd just got done running a marathon, and I began to need more rest between sets. The weird part was that I was setting PR's left and right... my strength was through the roof on every exercise I did. In between sets I'd feel like ****, but I think it was just a mental thing... my body was more than able to do what I asked of it. Tomorrow's leg workout should be interesting.
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    Looking good man... I think your back looks bigger now than in the before pic!!!
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    Looking good man... I think your back looks bigger now than in the before pic!!!
    I used to pinch my shoulder blades together when posing because it was easier to flex the back
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    Good deal... I've read that its good for mixing with your PWO protein shake... is that how you used it?
    Yes, and also with my breakfast, I would make some coffee + cocoa powder + heavy cream and bring that with me at work / school.

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    one more thing, maybe take a fiber supp, low carbing did a number on my bowels (no homo)
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    Originally Posted by Surive123 View Post
    I used to pinch my shoulder blades together when posing because it was easier to flex the back
    Haha yeah... its a common mistake.

    Originally Posted by daYDreAmErX View Post
    Yes, and also with my breakfast, I would make some coffee + cocoa powder + heavy cream and bring that with me at work / school.

    Good luck !
    Cool, thanks again for the help.

    Originally Posted by nads786 View Post
    one more thing, maybe take a fiber supp, low carbing did a number on my bowels (no homo)
    Yeah, I've got Metamucil that I'll probably start taking, just to be safe.
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    A thought about the milk

    Keep it post workout only or try drinking heavy cream and water?
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    hola did you get all the blood tests done that the e-book says to do before starting the diet??
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    hey man u should try heavy cream in your pwo shake, it will boost your fats and tastes awsome
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    you're the man. I'm sure this will work for you. I may have to consider this seeing as I appear to be a tad carb sensitive....but I'll stick with em until I can't see my abs

    are you really 9-10% bf? I wouldn't think so.
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    Originally Posted by MarkVI View Post
    A thought about the milk

    Keep it post workout only or try drinking heavy cream and water?
    The small amount of milk I'm drinking seems to be whats keeping me sane... I have to have it.

    Originally Posted by hugowrx04 View Post
    hola did you get all the blood tests done that the e-book says to do before starting the diet??
    Yep, as part of my Army physical... I don't have the results back yet though.

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    hey man u should try heavy cream in your pwo shake, it will boost your fats and tastes awsome
    Thanks for the suggestion man... I plan on it!

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    you're the man. I'm sure this will work for you. I may have to consider this seeing as I appear to be a tad carb sensitive....but I'll stick with em until I can't see my abs

    are you really 9-10% bf? I wouldn't think so.
    9-10% is based on a pinch test... what bf% do you think I am?
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    Has anyone else experienced an INSANE amount of hunger in the first few days of the AD? I barely got any sleep last night and I finally got up and ate a can of tuna and 4 oz milk... it seemed to help a little bit. I think I've got a cold though... my nose has been running like crazy, I've been sneezing non-stop, and my whole body aches, including my head and especially my back... I'm feeling pretty ****ty right now. Hopefully I'll feel better after I take a nap.
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    Originally Posted by Hola Bola View Post
    Has anyone else experienced an INSANE amount of hunger in the first few days of the AD? I barely got any sleep last night and I finally got up and ate a can of tuna and 4 oz milk... it seemed to help a little bit. I think I've got a cold though... my nose has been running like crazy, I've been sneezing non-stop, and my whole body aches, including my head and especially my back... I'm feeling pretty ****ty right now. Hopefully I'll feel better after I take a nap.
    Eat more green veggies. Upping the volume / amount of fiber in your meal will help with the hunger. Broccoli, asparagus, cauliflowers... all good stuff.
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    Here's an excerpt from some of Scivation's low-carb diet books

    Your body will go through some changes and adaptations. Please note these changes are normal and they will go away. Initially, you may feel weak in the gym, low energy, possible headaches, irritability and weight loss. DO NOT FREAK. The symptoms will last about one to two weeks and they do not
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    Hola, did you gradually decrease your carbs for a week or two letting your body adjust or jump right into it??
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    Originally Posted by daYDreAmErX View Post
    Eat more green veggies. Upping the volume / amount of fiber in your meal will help with the hunger. Broccoli, asparagus, cauliflowers... all good stuff.
    Another good suggestion... I'll do that.

    Originally Posted by Carlito99 View Post
    Here's an excerpt from some of Scivation's low-carb diet books

    Your body will go through some changes and adaptations. Please note these changes are normal and they will go away. Initially, you may feel weak in the gym, low energy, possible headaches, irritability and weight loss. DO NOT FREAK. The symptoms will last about one to two weeks and they do not
    happen to everyone.
    My bodies changes and adaptations: severe headaches, cold symptoms, body aches, weight loss, decreased endurance... my strength was through the roof though.

    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    Hola, did you gradually decrease your carbs for a week or two letting your body adjust or jump right into it??
    I just jumped right into it... I didn't even think about gradually decreasing them. I probably should have though... I bet I wouldn't feel as ****ty right now if I had.
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    i hope the lack of carbs doesn't hinder your workouts.....

    i know it f*cked with mine big time. lost a ton of strength.
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    Hola, you ever try Carb Control Milk? That might help solve your carb/milk problem. GL!
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    Originally Posted by SDFlip View Post
    i hope the lack of carbs doesn't hinder your workouts.....

    i know it f*cked with mine big time. lost a ton of strength.
    It hurt my endurance a bit yesterday, but my strength was way up. As soon as I can get youtube to cooperate, I'll post the workout. My leg workout today should be interesting though...

    Instead of doing the traditional 5 days low carb, 2 days carb-up, I'm thinking about doing a 3 day low carb, 1 day carb-up split... that way it will coincide better with my workouts...

    Day 1 - WO (carb-up)
    Day 2 - WO (no carb)
    Day 3 - WO (no carb)
    Day 4 - Off (no carb)
    repeat...

    There is a mid-week carb-up option listed in the AD ebook... it would basically be a version of that, and it should keep me from having ****ty workouts.
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