Donald Trump’s New York Criminal Trial Begins Monday

[NYPat]

I got to admit, I’m spending too much time here, but the world you Trumpers create is fascinating to me. In your minds he literally can do no wrong. “It’s a joke.” “It’s fake news.” “It’s a conspiracy.” “Whatabout?” And when that fails you just cling to lies.

The constant insults from some of you are very telling too. Somewhere deep down having to defend him like this is not making you happy and you’re lashing out because your fantasy is being challenged.

But bro.. anyone who doesn't suck off Trump's lies and bullchit is an NPC and lacks critical thinking... Jesus I couldn't even type that without laughing.

There is no conversation with these people. Just call them out and move on.

[Phil9]

Right. Another Trumper go-to defense. “He was just joking.”

They are quite predictable lol. Remember when Mexico was supposed to pay for that wall and righties were chanting it at rallies? Just a joke, dawg!

[gwg77]

Not sure if this posted. But, wtf is this shіt?

To find Trump guilty of felony-level falsification of business documents, the jury must unanimously find that Trump falsified the documents in order to commit or conceal a separate crime. But the jurors do not all have to agree on what that separate crime was, Justice Juan Merchan ruled.

Trump’s defense argued that, to issue a felony-level conviction, all jurors should be required to agree on the “predicate” crime.

Prosecutors initially laid out four possible predicate crimes, one of which the judge ruled out before trial. The remaining possibilities are a tax crime and violations of state or federal election law.

Defense lawyer Emil Bove argued that jurors should have to agree on a single predicate offense. But prosecutor Matthew Colangelo said the law doesn't require that.

“The importance of the case is not a basis for deviating from the standard application of the law,” Colangelo said. “There’s no reason to rewrite the law for this case.”

Merchan agreed with the prosecution and said he won't impose the requirement the defense requested.

In other words: If some jurors believe that Trump falsified business documents solely to cover up a tax crime, while others believe that he falsified business documents solely to cover up an election crime, the jury can still convict Trump on the felony-level falsifying-documents charges, despite disagreeing on the predicate crimes.

https://www.politico.com/live-update...rimes-00159225

[Fishman15]

Not sure if this posted. But, wtf is this shіt?







https://www.politico.com/live-update...rimes-00159225

This means that what looks like a hung jury to you and me may have a different interpretation by that judge...

[gwg77]

This means that what looks like a hung jury to you and me may have a different interpretation by that judge...

Yeah that's a rigged court. What a total joke.

[Fishman15]

Yeah that's a rigged court. What a total joke.

Daddy can't disappoint his little girl who is making 10's of millions of dollars from high end dem donors who want Trump out at any cost...

[nutsy54]

Not sure if this posted. But, wtf is this shіt?

It just reminds everyone that no crime has even been accused, let alone proven

[rampagefc77]

Not sure if this posted. But, wtf is this shіt?







https://www.politico.com/live-update...rimes-00159225

The problem is, there was never an underlying crime and the head of the fec wasn’t allowed to testify because that’s exactly what he wanted to say under oath. In doing so, it would kill the case. But cohen was allowed to go in and on about how he committed the crime, even though cohen knows nothing about campaign finance law.

Just goes to show how much the judge is trying to stack the deck. The funny thing is, even if trump paid off stormy to influence the election and you could consider this a campaign finance transaction, it wouldn’t have been reported until AFTER the election anyway. So the idea that they hid payments to influence the election is false, because the election would have been long over until they would have legally needed to report them to the fec.

The entire thing is pitiful.

[gwg77]

^^Great post, rampage.


The fix is in.

President Biden plans to address former President Donald Trump’s Manhattan criminal trial in a “White House setting” when the jury delivers its verdict, according to a report.

The 81-year-old president’s message will be tailored to the outcome of the trial, according to Politico, but in any scenario, he intends to stress that the US legal system worked and Americans should respect the process.

Biden will deliver remarks whether the 77-year-old former president is convicted, acquitted or the jury cannot agree on a verdict.

Closing arguments in Trump’s trial over alleged hush money payments made to porn star Stormy Daniels are set to commence on Tuesday.

It is believed that the jury could reach a verdict as early as next week.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/25/us-new...rdict-from-wh/

[Phil9]

GWG in complete shambles over a verdict that hasn't even happened yet.

[rampagefc77]

GWG in complete shambles over a verdict that hasn't even happened yet.

Everyone should be in shambles over the fact that our judiciary and the current admin is so corrupt that this case is even remotely n a court room. You expect it in North Korea, not the US.

[fitnessislife]

Not sure if this posted. But, wtf is this shіt?







https://www.politico.com/live-update...rimes-00159225

It means this entire ordeal is what most sane people (and even a growing number of Democrats) know it to be - a complete sham.

[Stizzel]

^^Great post, rampage.


The fix is in.








https://nypost.com/2024/05/25/us-new...rdict-from-wh/

The jury instructions are hilarious but anyone not so full of the commie koolaid that they'd vote trump guilty of assassinating Lincoln sees what is going on

[rampagefc77]

The jury instructions are hilarious but anyone not so full of the commie koolaid that they'd vote trump guilty of assassinating Lincoln sees what is going on

The goal is to stack the deck so hard against trump that it maximizes their chances of a conviction. It still may fail, and it would definitely be overturned by appeal, but they are holding out hope that they can get a conviction by pulling every lever possible.

[Stizzel]

The goal is to stack the deck so hard against trump that it maximizes their chances of a conviction. It still may fail, and it would definitely be overturned by appeal, but they are holding out hope that they can get a conviction by pulling every lever possible.

A conviction is a big win for trump imo. The mugshot has his approval through the roof. A conviction....they'd have to jfk him

[nutsy54]

A conviction is a big win for trump imo. The mugshot has his approval through the roof. A conviction....they'd have to jfk him

"The jury has determined that Trump is guilty of something or other..."

[gachase21]

Starting now

In New York, the defense goes first and then the prosecution.

Trumps team estimated to the judge about 2 1/2 hours and then the prosecution estimated 4 to 4 1/2 half hours so the judge said it might roll into the next day- that will give the prosecution a huge advantage that happens as they'll have over night to create more complexity counter.

[Bodhy]

Starting now

In New York, the defense goes first and then the prosecution.

Trumps team estimated to the judge about 2 1/2 hours and then the prosecution estimated 4 to 4 1/2 half hours so the judge said it might roll into the next day- that will give the prosecution a huge advantage that happens as they'll have over night to create more complexity counter.

The defence is going to spend hours arguing conclusively, that Michael Cohen and Trump aren't friends, Trump is a great golfer, and eventually, try to repeal the testimony of their witness, Costello. Their legal defence, summarised will be "Did not! Did not Did not Did not Did not Did not Did not DID NOT!"

The prosecution will argue Trump definitely did commit the crimes he is accused of here.

[ColdandChilly]

A conviction is a big win for trump imo. The mugshot has his approval through the roof. A conviction....they'd have to jfk him

Nobody important would ever give enough of a phuck about Trump to JFK him

[Deathstroke]

Nobody important would ever give enough of a phuck about Trump to JFK him

You’d be amazed.

[Bodhy]

But bro.. anyone who doesn't suck off Trump's lies and bullchit is an NPC and lacks critical thinking... Jesus I couldn't even type that without laughing.

There is no conversation with these people. Just call them out and move on.

I was just reading a hilarious joke which went something like this:


Two Trumpers die and go to heaven. They meet God and are permitted to ask him any question they like. They decide to ask him "Did Biden steal the 2020 election?". God replies "Of course not, my son, it was an entirely free and fair democratic election."

One Trumper turns and says to the other: "See? I told you this thing went all the way to the very top!".

[Foxmulder0]

This is such a sham. Anyone who thinks otherwise just doesn’t like trump. Period.

[miscinbro]

Starting now

In New York, the defense goes first and then the prosecution.

Trumps team estimated to the judge about 2 1/2 hours and then the prosecution estimated 4 to 4 1/2 half hours so the judge said it might roll into the next day- that will give the prosecution a huge advantage that happens as they'll have over night to create more complexity counter.

I can’t imagine the jury hasn’t made up their mind by now.

[Procta]

lmao

https://x.com/MattPieper/status/1795463587235758166

[miscinbro]

Slam dunk! (52% of the time) Just lol

Prosecution is getting absolutely rekt. They’ve already rested their case and legal analysts on CNN and MSNBC even admit they’ve failed to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. Cohen has been utterly ripped apart by Trump’s defense lawyers. If this doesn’t end in an acquittal it’s rigged srs.

bragg has a 52% conviction rating for felonies.
is that what liberals consider "slam dunk" prosecution?

it saw court because bragg promised he would "get trump".

How is this even solid? Isn't Cohen their star witness?

These posts aged well.

[Paul Kreul]

Right, out comes good ol’ lying paired with whataboutism. Dash of insults, challenge my integrity. I get why you like Trump.

Here’s the thing. I’m not talking about anything but Trump right now. Show me real evidence of wrongdoing, take them to court, get a conviction. And I will support the proper punishment for anyone.

Can you say the same? Now who’s the hypocrite?

Yes, show evidence of wrong doing, I posted the 34 charges..all just ledgers of paid invoices his lawyer submitted to him..that’s the point.

Trump has numerous key issues, for the argument for appeal.

-Guilty on all 34 counts and nobody knows, including a conflicted Judge and Prosecutors who never identified an underlying felony, what the underlining crime is.

-Resurrected misdemeanor bookkeeping charges that had lapsed.

-Liars and whores, boundless character testimony prejudicial to Mr. Trump

-Prejudicial evidence that the Soros's judge allowed to be admitted , access hollywood tapes.

-Corrupt and bias Soros Judge and Prosecutor, etc..


And if you are claiming the judge is not corrupt, I already addressed that as well

[NYPat]

These posts aged well.

Yep. They all circle jerk themselves while trying to gang up on left leaning posters (who must remain civil while engaging them..) and turn out to be dead fuking wrong. AGAIN. AS. ALWAYS.






And btw.. our former president just rattled off one of the most unhinged speeches that history will look back on as a gigantic WTF?...

Nothing prepared.. nothing about how the country should move forward.. just.. incoherent rambling and false accusations and lies.

[Bodhy]

Yep. They all circle jerk themselves while trying to gang up on left leaning posters (who must remain civil while engaging them..) and turn out to be dead fuking wrong. AGAIN. AS. ALWAYS.






And btw.. our former president just rattled off one of the most unhinged speeches that history will look back on as a gigantic WTF?...

Nothing prepared.. nothing about how the country should move forward.. just.. incoherent rambling and false accusations and lies.

You know you've won when all they've got is lame personal insults. It's how they betray their butthurt, fail and losing. More tears, I say. They taste delicious.

[Paul Kreul]

You know you've won when all they've got is lame personal insults. It's how they betray their butthurt, fail and losing. More tears, I say. They taste delicious.

I explained how why it is unlawful..you made a bad joke lol

[WoofieNugget]

And btw.. our former president just rattled off one of the most unhinged speeches that history will look back on as a gigantic WTF?...

Nothing prepared.. nothing about how the country should move forward.. just.. incoherent rambling and false accusations and lies.

Honestly, Biden's entire campaign commercials could be Trump's ridiculous claims and speeches over and over again. His own base eats it up, but he isn't converting any new voters his way and he's probably losing tons of moderates and centrists every time he goes off.