Russia vs Ukraine Thread V: The Fate of Humanity, Traditional Values vs Globohomo

[DSTEE]

I’m not the only one who has said it, and you’re not using imperialism correctly. Helping support Ukraine or Taiwan is not imperialism, it’s just not isolationism - and we saw how well that’s worked out before.

Keep in mind you are responding to a russian. A proud russian who supports russia in thoughts and prayers that is, while paying actual tax to NATO

Got to be brutal to be reminded how much a waste of lives and resources to have no beach party. But please, take a big huff on that copium pipe and tell us how Ukraine is going to win.

-Using weapons to kill orcs
-Wasting resources

Pick one

Lol the "best air defense system" S-400 fails to intercept old ass incoming ATACMS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/hQ2SEyfppA

Going to be fun when Ukraine is allowed to strike targets on russian soil with them. A lot of bases and air fields will go boom.

Always seem to suck for russia when they get put to the test

[Ikarsuz1337]

lmao i thought this site was down forever

[PimpinisEasy]

Lol the "best air defense system" S-400 fails to intercept old ass incoming ATACMS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/hQ2SEyfppA

Going to be fun when Ukraine is allowed to strike targets on russian soil with them. A lot of bases and air fields will go boom.

Why is teh ATACMS old? it's the US's most modern surrface to surface missile.

They could have overwhelemed the S-400 with volume of missiles - either way it's a painful hit for Russia.

Aftermath footage looks like TEL, Radar and Command vehicle destroyed.

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1793903705600733603

Russia should respond by arming Hezbollah - hit the Americans where it hurts. If I was Russia I would literally say if you give anymore weapons to Ukraine we will match them with weapons to Hez. We'd then see how many arms come to Ukraine.

[MotorcycleBrah]

Why is teh ATACMS old? it's the US's most modern surrface to surface missile.

They could have overwhelemed the S-400 with volume of missiles - either way it's a painful hit for Russia.

Aftermath footage looks like TEL, Radar and Command vehicle destroyed.

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1793903705600733603

Russia should respond by arming Hezbollah - hit the Americans where it hurts. If I was Russia I would literally say if you give anymore weapons to Ukraine we will match them with weapons to Hez. We'd then see how many arms come to Ukraine.

ATACMS we'e developed in the 80s and the program discontinued in 2007. It's old tech.
US Army replaced them with PrSM which is superior to ATACMS in range, speed and capacity.

[PimpinisEasy]

ATACMS we'e developed in the 80s and the program discontinued in 2007. It's old tech.
US Army replaced them with PrSM which is superior to ATACMS in range, speed and capacity.

Ok the PSM is brand new. I wasn't aware of this missile. However reviewing it, it's not clear why this missile would be any harder to hit by AD than an ATACMS.

It appears the main difference is range (further) and payload (less).

[yabbayabba]

-Using weapons to kill orcs
-Wasting resources

Pick one t

Damn, even vatnig boy doesn't care how many of his fellow Ukies die. But please, take a big huff on that copium pipe and tell us how Ukraine is going to win. How much land did Ukraine lose yesterday?

It's funny, in MotorcycleRetard's urge to come cry about Russia I guess he forgot about all the "great" Patriot and IRIS-T systems (LOL at German made garbage) destroyed. Are we finally going to get a beach party because of ATACMS? MotorcycleRetard deep throats every new wonderwaffle (how are those Bradleys doing?) that does nothing so it's hard to tell.

Looks like a Ukie just straight up hijacked then surrendered his tank to Russians: https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/111501

Morale has never been better!

[miscinbro]

Yeh and I've decided I am British Iranian. I don't need to pick one or the other, I don't need to move countries...

It's very odd that people from a country I have zero respect for at trying to tell me what to do.

I'm hoping for the US to enter a new conflict the more you ****ers are stretched the sooner we can consign you to the dustbin of history.

I see. You get to decide who you are, but I don’t. That’s cute.

Bonus shtbag points for wishing death on me for being born in a county that is deeply allied with one you choose to live in.

[phaginator]

Putler wanting a cease fire according to multiple ruski sources

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ay-2024-05-24/


Summary

Russian sources indicate Putin ready to halt conflict at front
Putin to take more land to pressure Kyiv to talk: sources
Does not want another national mobilisation: sources
Putin has no designs on NATO territory: sources
Russia concerned about nuclear escalation: sources



Aka Putler too weak to push through.

[Ronnie87]

Putler wanting a cease fire according to multiple ruski sources

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ay-2024-05-24/


Summary

Russian sources indicate Putin ready to halt conflict at front
Putin to take more land to pressure Kyiv to talk: sources
Does not want another national mobilisation: sources
Putin has no designs on NATO territory: sources
Russia concerned about nuclear escalation: sources



Aka Putler too weak to push through.

The West and Ukraine especially would be smart to agree to a cease fire given Ukraine has lost around 50% of it's armed forces to casualties and cannot replenish them, but obviously the people making the decisions aren't on the front lines, so they'll probably deny Putin ever offered a cease fire and keep fighting at the cost of tens of thousands of men, the end result being that Ukraine doesn't recapture the territory they've lost anyway.

[Ronnie87]

Something he has publicly stated for the past 2 years lol, this is literally nothing new

Except this time he said he won’t sign any peace documents with Zelensky, since Zelenskys term officially ended a week ago and he is only holding onto power because of martial law. Zelensky is officially a dictator

I'm not a Zelensky apologist but it's extremely common to not hold elections while you're country is in the middle of a major war, Britain didn't hold an election in 1940 for example. Holding elections while hundreds of thousands of men are fighting in trenches and millions have been forced to seek refuge abroad would seem rather difficult to get right.

I do think Ukraine should be looking to end this war if they have the opportunity though, then they can hold elections.

[dabbmw2002]

Putler wanting a cease fire according to multiple ruski sources

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ay-2024-05-24/


Summary

Russian sources indicate Putin ready to halt conflict at front
Putin to take more land to pressure Kyiv to talk: sources
Does not want another national mobilisation: sources
Putin has no designs on NATO territory: sources
Russia concerned about nuclear escalation: sources



Aka Putler too weak to push through.

Anonymous sources, familiar with Putin's entourage.....lmao.

[exxtracool]

The West and Ukraine especially would be smart to agree to a cease fire given Ukraine has lost around 50% of it's armed forces to casualties and cannot replenish them, but obviously the people making the decisions aren't on the front lines, so they'll probably deny Putin ever offered a cease fire and keep fighting at the cost of tens of thousands of men, the end result being that Ukraine doesn't recapture the territory they've lost anyway.

Easy for you to say bruv, how much of england would you accept giving up to france in a war?

[dabbmw2002]

Easy for you to say bruv, how much of england would you accept giving up to france in a war?

How much of England is French speaking and wants to be part of France?

Also the English Channel complicates things I woukd use contentinental Europe as a better example whose boarders have changed constantly the last several hundred years due to war and ethnic differences

[Ronnie87]

Easy for you to say bruv, how much of england would you accept giving up to france in a war?

Interesting analogy, here's a more accurate one.

You're sharing a jail cell and Jon Jones is your cell mate, he takes your bed and tells you to sleep on the floor, how many beatings are you willing to take before you accept you're going to be sleeping on the floor?

To your analogy, if France was 3 times the size of the UK then whether I accept it or not wouldn't come into question. Ukraine does not have a choice, so it isn't about acceptance, they can accept they have lost that territory, or they can continue to fight and lose even more men and possibly even more territory while also not regaining the initial territory anyway. There isn't a scenario where Ukraine can win because they've basically run out of men willing to fight and die.

[exxtracool]

How much of England is French speaking and wants to be part of France?

england used to belong to france. muh historical lands.


how much of texas is spanish speaking? when are you giving away texas to its rightful owners mexico?

[exxtracool]

Interesting analogy, here's a more accurate one.

You're sharing a jail cell and Jon Jones is your cell mate, he takes your bed and tells you to sleep on the floor, how many beatings are you willing to take before you accept you're going to be sleeping on the floor?

To your analogy, if France was 3 times the size of the UK then whether I accept it or not wouldn't come into question. Ukraine does not have a choice, so it isn't about acceptance, they can accept they have lost that territory, or they can continue to fight and lose even more men and possibly even more territory while also not regaining the initial territory anyway. There isn't a scenario where Ukraine can win because they've basically run out of men willing to fight and die.

so youre saying if a nation came along to invade england with 3 times its size in military then you would just give up and not fight it at all? interesting take from a brit. i guess that lion pride has died down in recent years lmao. too much enrichment. free free palestine.

[BotDetector]

How much of England is French speaking and wants to be part of France?

Usual monkey take.

HoW mUcH oF TexAs Is SpAniSh SpeaKinG And WAnTS To Be A ApRT oF mExiCCo??

Answer: Doesn't matter. Texas is US territory.

Fukkin low iq niger.

[Stizzel]

england used to belong to france. muh historical lands.


how much of texas is spanish speaking? when are you giving away texas to its rightful owners mexico?

I mean, we stole texas and california by force. If you were consistent you'd be demanding mexico mobilize their population to invade el paso even though theres a 100% probability they all die accomplishing nothing

[BotDetector]

Lol the "best air defense system" S-400 fails to intercept old ass incoming ATACMS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/hQ2SEyfppA

Going to be fun when Ukraine is allowed to strike targets on russian soil with them. A lot of bases and air fields will go boom.

S-400 is trash. Extremely unreliable, inaccurate, and terrible radar. Years of russian propaganda about how AWesOMe it is got them a lot of arms sales. They're trying the same with their 80s ballistic missiles now, call them HYPErsonics and sell them to mongoloid iranians. Meanwhile, they aren't true hypersonics. Russia is ALWAYS exposed on the battlefield. All they have are zerg tactics, wave after wave of orcs. No other military does this because most countries care about their people.

[BotDetector]

I mean, we stole texas and california by force. If you were consistent you'd be demanding mexico mobilize their population to invade el paso even though theres a 100% probability they all die accomplishing nothing

"we"




LOL

[Ronnie87]

so youre saying if a nation came along to invade england with 3 times its size in military then you would just give up and not fight it at all? interesting take from a brit. i guess that lion pride has died down in recent years lmao. too much enrichment. free free palestine.

Ukraine has fought though, they've lost 50% of their armed forces, in excess of 200,000 casualities. Are you saying that a country should fight to the last man over a portion of their territory in a war they cannot win?

Of course I would fight for the UK, but at some point if the enemy had massively superior numbers and the UK had no chance of winning then we, and every other country on Earth, would be forced to negotiate. That's literally how every war has been fought in human history.

Churchill said "we'll never surrender", which was great, but if the Wehrmacht had crossed the channel in 1941 when the British Army had been annihilated in France then I guarantee that we would have. That is actually a cold hard reality.

[BotDetector]

Ukraine has fought though, they've lost 50% of their armed forces, in excess of 200,000 casualities. Are you saying that a country should fight to the last man over a portion of their territory in a war they cannot win?

Of course I would fight for the UK, but at some point if the enemy had massively superior numbers and the UK had no chance of winning then we, and every other country on Earth, would be forced to negotiate. That's literally how every war has been fought in human history.

The idea is to bog them down into a counterinsurgency and eventually russia will leave, same as they did in Afghanistan.

No matter what the little bald manlet says, the rest of the world does not recognize any of russias "annexations".

[BotDetector]

"RU Defense Ministry: “Today our state-of-the-art S400-Triumf Missile System successfully intercepted and destroyed a barrage of worthless western made ATACMS missiles by physically blocking them with our S400 Missile Launchers, Tombstone 3D Radar, Clamshell Radar, Support vehicles, Personnel etc. At only a cost of $800 million we inflicted tens of millions of dollars of loss to the US and its allies!”"


LMFAO!


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Don't worry vatnigs, you have the SUPER DOOPER S500!!!! That'll work!!!


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Right???

[Ronnie87]

The idea is to bog them down into a counterinsurgency and eventually russia will leave, same as they did in Afghanistan.

No matter what the little bald manlet says, the rest of the world does not recognize any of russias "annexations".

There's no insurgency in Eastern Ukraine to my knowledge, most people there are simply getting on with their lives or were evacuated.

[BotDetector]

rasia missills gewd .

ruasia tech so gewd



fukkin ded.

[yabbayabba]

england used to belong to france. muh historical lands.


how much of texas is spanish speaking? when are you giving away texas to its rightful owners mexico?

When is Mexico giving their land back to the Aztecs and/or Mayans (there are still lots of people that can trace their heritage to either group)? When are you giving your house back to a First Nation person since the British and French forcibly took the land from them? It's such a dumb **** analogy because there was always somebody else there but it's the best simple minds can come up with.

Also...many LOLs at the retard crew now supporting a dictator. The thing they said Poots was.

More LOLs at how triggered terrortard is (as always). Just ****ing LOL at those tears.

[exxtracool]

Ukraine has fought though, they've lost 50% of their armed forces, in excess of 200,000 casualities. Are you saying that a country should fight to the last man over a portion of their territory in a war they cannot win?

Of course I would fight for the UK, but at some point if the enemy had massively superior numbers and the UK had no chance of winning then we, and every other country on Earth, would be forced to negotiate. That's literally how every war has been fought in human history.

im not saying ukraine should or shouldnt fight, you are... im saying thats their govt/military decision to make. these same people in here have been saying ukraine should surrender since the first 30 days of the war lmao.


"We shall defend our island whatever the cost may be; we shall fight on beaches, landing grounds, in fields, in streets and on the hills. We shall never surrender and even if, which I do not for the moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, will carry on the struggle until in God's good time the New World with all its power and might, sets forth to the liberation and rescue of the Old."


remember the guy who said that bruv?

[dabbmw2002]

There's no insurgency in Eastern Ukraine to my knowledge, most people there are simply getting on with their lives or were evacuated.

The key difference is in an insurgency the local populace doesn't want to be occupied. Eastern Ukrainians want to be part of Russia. Terrortard is playing stupid, oh and he's actually stupid as well

[BotDetector]

ATACMS is literally 1980s technology that the russians are unable to counter. This is why vlad said he'd n00k Ukraine if we gave the Ukrainians these missiles. ATACMS can maneuver in terminal phase. S400 has 0 ability to fire on this. We need to give Ukraine more of these, and longer range ones.

I am happy the rest of the world is realizing how garbage russian tech is, and that they are just gangster arms dealers. russia hasn't advanced their positions in this war due to their "amazing tech", it's just been by throwing more bags of meat at the front than Ukraine has. Their air defenses have been completely exposed as a myth. We won't give Ukraine PrSM - they don't need it.

ATACMS: 45 year old missile pwning S-400. Love to see it.

[exxtracool]

When is Mexico giving their land back to the Aztecs and/or Mayans (there are still lots of people that can trace their heritage to either group)? When are you giving your house back to a First Nation person since the British and French forcibly took the land from them? It's such a dumb **** analogy because there was always somebody else there but it's the best simple minds can come up with.

Also...many LOLs at the retard crew now supporting a dictator. The thing they said Poots was.

are you an actual retard bro? my point is that the argument that ukraine should give up territory because of historic reasons or ethnic reasons is stupid.... the lines are set, the borders are drawn (which btw russia itself drew lmao) if we begin to accept the redrawing of international lines then it will be global chaos. how much of poland and czechia are we going to give back to germany?

the iq up in here is rock bottom lmao, cant even follow along with a discussion lol.