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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    No, you CAN'T cite statistics, because the statistics endlessly prove you're a LIAR

    How did the economy "suck"? You constantly LIE and claim Biden took office with a negative GDP, yet here are the actual statistics:
    2020 Q3: +35.3%
    2020 Q4: + 3.9%
    2021 Q1: + 6.3%

    Meanwhile, 2024 Q1: 1.6% "booming"

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...gdp-in-the-us/

    Once again, if things are really so great under Biden, why do you constantly need to lie about and blame Trump?
    What was the full year 2020 GDP? Negative boyo. When you fall in a hole and climb out 75% of the way you don’t get credit for that 75% boyo.

    And Q1 2021 was all Biden. You can’t blame Biden for inflation that Trump caused then not give him credit for Q1.

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    What was the full year 2020 GDP? Negative boyo. When you fall in a hole and climb out 75% of the way you don’t get credit for that 75% boyo.

    And Q1 2021 was all Biden. You can’t blame Biden for inflation that Trump caused then not give him credit for Q1.

    Da phuk is wrong with your brain?

    You're literally the only retard on the internet that acts like Covid didn't cause the early 2020 economic plunge. Paniccels fuked this country and the world up good and the effects of their panic is still with us and will be the rest of the decade.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    What was the full year 2020 GDP?

    And Q1 2021 was all Biden.
    How the hell is Q1 (Jan-Feb-Mar) claimed "all Biden" when Biden took office on Jan 20th?
    And then you flip-flip from annual to quarterly results, when GDP is consistently reported on a quarterly basis? Cherry picking gonna cherry pick

    Absolutely unhinged that the only way to prop up Biden is to lie about everything else, 3+ years ago.

    Meanwhile, you ignore two quarters of negative GDP under Biden in 2022, and overall declining GDP growth throughout the Biden administration...


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    Originally Posted by frankdtank20 View Post
    You're literally the only retard on the internet that acts like Covid didn't cause the early 2020 economic plunge. Paniccels fuked this country and the world up good and the effects of their panic is still with us and will be the rest of the decade.
    And he was one of them, comparing masks to seat belts, or shoes.

    Talking about how he would wear one outdoors when visiting his parents, they'd stand like 20 feet from each other, who were also masked up.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    And he was one of them, comparing masks to seat belts, or shoes.

    Talking about how he would wear one outdoors when visiting his parents, they'd stand like 20 feet from each other, who were also masked up.

    That isn't surprising. Isn't it amazing how many hoaxes some people fall for over and over?

    That includes economic data. The BLS reports both the Establishment Survey and the Household Survey. The gap between them has never been so large. In the Household Survey a person working two jobs is counted once and it includes small businesses. Per it, just tens of thousands of jobs (full or part time) were added last year. In the Establishment Survey they get payroll data from only large and small businesses. A person working two jobs is counted twice. Per it, millions of jobs were added last year. The discrepancy between the surveys has never been this out of whack.

    The Establishment Survey is solely reported by media, is hyped by politicians.
    The Household Survey is more the pulse of how Americans feel. A person working two jobs is counted once. A more realistic scope of households.

    Over time they're usually pretty close together. Over the last 2 years they've never been further apart, month after month. The cumulative effect is a difference of millions of people. It's a bit nerdy but if you look at the data it infers millions more people than ever before are working part-time jobs. Almost all job growth the last 2 years has been part-time work. In 2023 over 100% of job growth was part-time.

    Also millions are out of the workforce entirely, they're not retired, but not counted as unemployed.
    And 25% of jobs added last year were govt jobs. Over 10% usually implies we're in a recession. 25% screams that they're trying to kick the recession can down the road. Combine the data together and there was less than zero full-time job growth for companies last year. But lots of jobs have been filled, part-time.


    Hence politicians and corporate media saying everything in the economy is great while a lot of Americans say otherwise.
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    How the hell is Q1 (Jan-Feb-Mar) claimed "all Biden" when Biden took office on Jan 20th?
    And then you flip-flip from annual to quarterly results, when GDP is consistently reported on a quarterly basis? Cherry picking gonna cherry pick

    Absolutely unhinged that the only way to prop up Biden is to lie about everything else, 3+ years ago.

    Meanwhile, you ignore two quarters of negative GDP under Biden in 2022, and overall declining GDP growth throughout the Biden administration...


    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth
    Look at that GDP growth, like nothing the orange turd ever produced. And massive GDP in Q4 21 can very well lead to negative growth the next quarter. You wouldn't know because Trump's GDP sucked balls for all quarters save 1 or 2 when it was just ok.

    So tell me how Biden is responsible for inflation but not GDP growth then Mr. Liar.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Look at that GDP growth, like nothing the orange turd ever produced. And massive GDP in Q4 21 can very well lead to negative growth the next quarter. You wouldn't know because Trump's GDP sucked balls for all quarters save 1 or 2 when it was just ok.

    So tell me how Biden is responsible for inflation but not GDP growth then Mr. Liar.
    Keep living in the past, why can't you address Biden's CURRENT failures? 2023 was anemic, 2024 is starting off horrendous. And keep lying about the actual results under Trump.

    First you claim that Biden is responsible for GDP growth that started six months before he took office, specifically 2021 Q1 which included three weeks before he took office, then you claim results years into his administration aren't his responsibility? If things are so great with Biden, why do you keep blaming everyone else for the results?

    Once again: Where is the Boom™?
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Keep living in the past, why can't you address Biden's CURRENT failures? 2023 was anemic, 2024 is starting off horrendous. And keep lying about the actual results under Trump.

    First you claim that Biden is responsible for GDP growth that started six months before he took office, specifically 2021 Q1 which included three weeks before he took office, then you claim results years into his administration aren't his responsibility? If things are so great with Biden, why do you keep blaming everyone else for the results?

    Once again: Where is the Boom™?
    '17 2.5%
    '18 3% (rounded up)
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    '21 5.8%
    '22 1.9%
    '23 2.5%

    Trump's max was a rounded 3%, Biden's best year crushed this. Biden's other two years are equivalent to the orange moron's years.

    Do you ever get tired of me destroying your pathetic arguments boyo? And mind you, this all happened in an environment of massive interest rate increases to combat Trumpflation while the market has exploded.

    Shall we do unemployment next? How about domestic energy production?

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Do you ever get tired of me destroying your pathetic arguments boyo?
    You didn't destroy anything

    You simultaneously praised Biden for results that literally started before he took office, while ignoring much worse results that are occurring now, 3 1/2 years into his administration.

    Once again: Where is the Boom™?
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    You didn't destroy anything

    You simultaneously praised Biden for results that literally started before he took office, while ignoring much worse results that are occurring now, 3 1/2 years into his administration.

    Once again: Where is the Boom™?
    Boyo 2.5% for '23 is right in line with Trump's years.

    Da phuk are you babbling about? Much worse...oh wait the first quarter came in low, I assume when the 2nd quarter comes in high you'll ignore this thread like the plague.

    Disingenuous liar.

    And where's the boom? Record wage growth. Record markets. Unemployment within .4% of ALL TIME LOWs. Record domestic energy production. Trumpflation tamed.

    WTF more do you want boyo?

    Trump left a disaster of a country, half shut down, no vaccine rolllout plan, store shelves empty, supply chains destroyed. You think you recover from that by snapping your fingers boyo?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    '17 2.5%
    '18 3% (rounded up)
    '19 2.5%
    '20 -2.2% (lol)
    '21 5.8%
    '22 1.9%
    '23 2.5%

    Trump's max was a rounded 3%, Biden's best year crushed this. Biden's other two years are equivalent to the orange moron's years.

    Do you ever get tired of me destroying your pathetic arguments boyo? And mind you, this all happened in an environment of massive interest rate increases to combat Trumpflation while the market has exploded.

    Shall we do unemployment next? How about domestic energy production?

    Thanks Joe!

    Again though you are playing with facts and twisting them. I just don't understand why you can't be honest when the stats are there for all to see.

    2020 GDP was down because that is the covid year and everything shut down. Throw that out.

    2021 was way up because there was a big shortage of goods and services created from covid in 2020 and a big demand for goods and services as economies opened back up. So of course there is going to be a bigger than normal growth spurt created from this artificially created discrepancy.

    Why not throw out the outliers and just count the 'normal years'? In this case 2017, 2018 and 2019 for Trump and 2022 and 2023 for Biden. In which case the Trump years were better with an average GDP of 2.7% for Trump and an average of 2.2% for Biden.

    What is better? 2.7% or 2.2%??

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Boyo 2.5% for '23 is right in line with Trump's years.
    You call 2.5% GDP growth a Boom™?

    And where's the boom? Record wage growth. Record markets. Unemployment within .4% of ALL TIME LOWs.
    Why do you keep repeating the same tired lies? We've already covered this... real wages are DOWN under Biden, not at any "record". The markets hit new records under every President, but market growth under Biden has been anemic at best. Unemployment has been INCREASING for the past 16 months.

    PS: The all-time low Unemployment was 2.5%. So how are you claiming that the current 3.9% is within .4% of that?
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    Trump left a disaster of a country, half shut down, no vaccine rolllout plan, store shelves empty, supply chains destroyed. You think you recover from that by snapping your fingers boyo?
    Repeating the same lies, over and over, doesn't make them true.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    '17 2.5%
    '18 3% (rounded up)
    '19 2.5%
    '20 -2.2% (lol)
    '21 5.8%
    '22 1.9%
    '23 2.5%

    Trump's max was a rounded 3%, Biden's best year crushed this. Biden's other two years are equivalent to the orange moron's years.

    Do you ever get tired of me destroying your pathetic arguments boyo? And mind you, this all happened in an environment of massive interest rate increases to combat Trumpflation while the market has exploded.

    Shall we do unemployment next? How about domestic energy production?

    Thanks Joe!
    Lol. You haven't destroyed anyone's arguments - you've been bested at every turn. Most people usually give up at this point, and yet you keep returning for more punishment.
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    Lol. You haven't destroyed anyone's arguments - you've been bested at every turn. Most people usually give up at this point, and yet you keep returning for more punishment.
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    These people are legit deranged to say the least.

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    $25 a lb for ribeye at my grocery store but we suppose to believe that this is a better economy...
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    $25 a lb for ribeye at my grocery store but we suppose to believe that this is a better economy...
    “When spending a greater portion of your income on food/groceries than anyone in America has since the 1980s is actually a good thing.”
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    “When spending a greater portion of your income on food/groceries than anyone in America has since the 1980s is actually a good thing.”
    Seriously getting about time to homestead while the commies fight over bugs and rat tails to eat...
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    $25 a lb for ribeye at my grocery store but we suppose to believe that this is a better economy...
    "Stop complaining and being poor!!"
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    Originally Posted by fitnessislife View Post
    "Stop complaining and being poor!!"
    The rallying cry of an economy that’s truly booming
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    Resting poop face, again.

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    Originally Posted by fitnessislife View Post
    Resting poop face, again.

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    Imagine taking anything a Democrat says seriously.

    These people are legit deranged to say the least.

    I am 100% certain they are the segment of the population most susceptible to propaganda. They will support the current thing EVERY SINGLE TIME. Whatever the chatter box says they will parrot back ad nauseam.
    Then they'll turn around and call others "cultists".
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    Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    Then they'll turn around and call others "cultists".
    I just don't understand why Sillie has to lie about things. To me it is a sign of weakness and low IQ. People with strength and a high IQ present facts and make their case using those facts.

    They don't take facts and stats and twist them around thinking that the random low IQ'er will never understand.

    That is being petty and being a simpleton.

    Sillies way of thinking is a BIG part of why the USA is falling apart. He is so prejudiced for his side that he is incapable of seeing anything but his side.

    In other words...a cultist.

    Sadly so much of the US is this way now, mainly because Euro centric white culture has been diluted to all hell by low IQ Africans and S and C Americans.....that we are completely F'd as a nation now.

    China in 100 years will dominate the world. Why? Because they are one race.
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    Originally Posted by BeachPro11 View Post
    I just don't understand why Sillie has to lie about things. To me it is a sign of weakness and low IQ. People with strength and a high IQ present facts and make their case using those facts.

    They don't take facts and stats and twist them around thinking that the random low IQ'er will never understand.

    That is being petty and being a simpleton.

    Sillies way of thinking is a BIG part of why the USA is falling apart. He is so prejudiced for his side that he is incapable of seeing anything but his side.

    In other words...a cultist.

    Sadly so much of the US is this way now, mainly because Euro centric white culture has been diluted to all hell by low IQ Africans and S and C Americans.....that we are completely F'd as a nation now.

    China in 100 years will dominate the world. Why? Because they are one race.
    Look, there are two options with Sillie; either he is a troll or he's legit a braindwashed lib.

    Either way time is wasted responding to him. The two replies you will get are "cUlTiSt" or "Unemployment is down bigly!"
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    Originally Posted by 6gorillion View Post
    Look, there are two options with Sillie; either he is a troll or he's legit a braindwashed lib.

    Either way time is wasted responding to him. The two replies you will get are "cUlTiSt" or "Unemployment is down bigly!"
    I think Sillie is who he says he is.

    A father of 2 or 3 near Baltimore with a good job.

    Had some health issues.

    I don't think he is a bad guy at all.

    But he 100% has been twisted into thinking that anyone with conservative views is a nazi/racist/white supremacist.

    He loves blacks. Hispanics. Muslims. TGs. Anything non white Euro.

    When in reality the very people he votes for and promotes are the very people who want his (my) kind gone.


    White people.

    In almost no other country in the world does this mentality exist. But here in the US and Canada and the West?

    It does.

    He is just cutting off his nose to spite his (and his kids) face.
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    Originally Posted by BeachPro11 View Post
    Again though you are playing with facts and twisting them. I just don't understand why you can't be honest when the stats are there for all to see.

    2020 GDP was down because that is the covid year and everything shut down. Throw that out.

    2021 was way up because there was a big shortage of goods and services created from covid in 2020 and a big demand for goods and services as economies opened back up. So of course there is going to be a bigger than normal growth spurt created from this artificially created discrepancy.

    Why not throw out the outliers and just count the 'normal years'? In this case 2017, 2018 and 2019 for Trump and 2022 and 2023 for Biden. In which case the Trump years were better with an average GDP of 2.7% for Trump and an average of 2.2% for Biden.

    What is better? 2.7% or 2.2%??

    Case closed.
    Originally Posted by BeachPro11 View Post
    I just don't understand why Sillie has to lie about things. To me it is a sign of weakness and low IQ. People with strength and a high IQ present facts and make their case using those facts.

    They don't take facts and stats and twist them around thinking that the random low IQ'er will never understand.

    That is being petty and being a simpleton.

    Sillies way of thinking is a BIG part of why the USA is falling apart. He is so prejudiced for his side that he is incapable of seeing anything but his side.

    In other words...a cultist.

    Sadly so much of the US is this way now, mainly because Euro centric white culture has been diluted to all hell by low IQ Africans and S and C Americans.....that we are completely F'd as a nation now.

    China in 100 years will dominate the world. Why? Because they are one race.
    Originally Posted by BeachPro11 View Post
    I think Sillie is who he says he is.

    A father of 2 or 3 near Baltimore with a good job.

    Had some health issues.

    I don't think he is a bad guy at all.

    But he 100% has been twisted into thinking that anyone with conservative views is a nazi/racist/white supremacist.

    He loves blacks. Hispanics. Muslims. TGs. Anything non white Euro.

    When in reality the very people he votes for and promotes are the very people who want his (my) kind gone.


    White people.

    In almost no other country in the world does this mentality exist. But here in the US and Canada and the West?

    It does.

    He is just cutting off his nose to spite his (and his kids) face.
    Waiting for Sillie's response....

    Please respond....
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    Imagine being so delusional about your team that you think FJB is worth re-electing.


    Gotta love how if you say anything bad about FJB the libtards automatically assume your a die hard MAGA. Fuking retards.
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