Is she the absolute worst Vice President America has ever had?

[havoc00]

[kcadrenalin]

Willie Brown must have been on a long dry spell.

[JUSA]

George Bush 1982-1990 was very bad, which like some of these others, not just figureheads but actually policy-making behind the scene and taking the administration down the road of corruption and bullchit.

Speaking of that: Dick Cheney comes to mind. He wasn't some harmless figurehead, but an evil monster than pushed that administration to make one of the biggest 'mistakes' (if you can call it that, as it was intentional) ever w/ Iraq.

In terms of shear incompetence? I don't know. Biden himself would be a candidate there, just a constant gaffe of mistakes and embarrassment during Obama's 2 terms. Plus, as we've seen, abusing his position to enrich himself.

Also, I'd put up old Mike Pence in that race.

Kamala is disgusting and hard to listen to, no question, but I'm not sure if she has much or any real influence over much of anything. We play these games where the current faces of the other side are always the worst, the most evil, blah blah blah... (like, when Romney was running: Nazi! Now? They love him. Same fuking guy) but really overall, she's not the worst or even close.

Just gross and a horrible speaker.

[Redfish225]

Annoying af, laughs all the time at absolutely nothing. Can’t be taken seriously.

[havoc00]

Annoying af, laughs all the time at absolutely nothing. Can’t be taken seriously.

Agreed She doesn't even have a likable personality. She has no discernable skills. She only manages to emulate all the fake and phony stereotypes of a ****ty politician.

[havoc00]

George Bush 1982-1990 was very bad, which like some of these others, not just figureheads but actually policy-making behind the scene and taking the administration down the road of corruption and bullchit.

Speaking of that: Dick Cheney comes to mind. He wasn't some harmless figurehead, but an evil monster than pushed that administration to make one of the biggest 'mistakes' (if you can call it that, as it was intentional) ever w/ Iraq.

In terms of shear incompetence? I don't know. Biden himself would be a candidate there, just a constant gaffe of mistakes and embarrassment during Obama's 2 terms. Plus, as we've seen, abusing his position to enrich himself.

Also, I'd put up old Mike Pence in that race.

Kamala is disgusting and hard to listen to, no question, but I'm not sure if she has much or any real influence over much of anything. We play these games where the current faces of the other side are always the worst, the most evil, blah blah blah... (like, when Romney was running: Nazi! Now? They love him. Same fuking guy) but really overall, she's not the worst or even close.

Just gross and a horrible speaker.

Cheney was the worst, or at least the most destructive in his role, but H.W. Bush was a competent VP. Reagan's administration would have had corruption and bad policy with or without him.

[frankdtank20]

Not the worst, since incompetence doesn't mean the worst. A lot of the worst politicians are really good at getting things done. Worst communicator? Certainly since TV cameras have been a thing.

[Irezumi]

Yes. She is also the poster child for why diversity hiring is an utter failure..

Cackle cackle...

[HateLiberals]

Vp usually in charge of the border so she's done a lot to help dems and ruin the entire countries lives

[SmithMachineGuy]

Not the worst, but probably the dumbest.

Cheney gets the nod for the worst, at least in the more modern era. Maybe John C. Calhoun was worse? Hard for me to judge since I wasn't around for the Jackson administration.

[JT11RTR]

She's a woman. That alone makes her the worst ever. She just proves it with how incompetent she is.

[Austanian]

No. She is just a dumb figure head that slept her way to the top.

A VP being nothing more than a figure head is a lot better than some of the more active VPs we have had.

[InPhase]

She's certainly the most out of her depth. Literally has no idea about what she is doing, nor any ability to know the things a VP should know.

No wonder they have had her hidden for the past 3 years.

[Paul Kreul]

[TaeBoNinja]

Nope, Biden was

[BigElephant]

She's the most incompetent, the most out of her element, and the dumbest.

As far as worst though, I'd say Dick Cheney was more actively harmful to America. Yeah Kamala is pushing leftist social engineering and taking VP salary while doing very little and talking out her ass constantly. But Cheney got us into Iraq, a war that cost a lot of American soldier lives and a lot of taxpayer money, pretty much solely to enrich the defense contractor that he was previously affiliated with.

[fitnessislife]

There's a reason why she was the first one out of the Democrat primaries. Not even her own party likes her, and she was chosen by Biden 100% because of her gender and ethnicity, even after she called him a rapist and racist to his face during the debates.

[sfgiants13]

There's a reason why the Biden admin has tried to bury her out of the public eye for most of the presidency. Only recently has she crawled out of her hole because she needs to get the muh abortion crowd all riled up for the election.

[JUSA]

Nope, Biden was

Not really (although, I did bring him up myself earlier).

He was brought in as the "foreign policy" expert to pad out Obama's soft resume. In reality, he's just a chickenhawk piece of chit, much like Clinton, McCain, Graham and most politicians in either party. His expertise is in nodding his head and agreeing to whatever the MIC tells him what war to beat drums for.

In that regard, he was no worse than anyone else. Obama inherited a lot of wars, kept them going, started a couple of his own. Business as usual, which while vile, ugly, inhuman and horrific -- also the sad status quo for American foreign policy. You can hardly single out Biden on that.

Otherwise, he was a stupid old man even then, constantly saying nonsense and mostly being ignored. So much they didn't even trot him out in 2016, thinking people were too smart to really go for that sack of crap and it being "Her time" and all. He then rose to the top of the toilet bowl in 2019-2020 amongst awful choices, basically being the least ridiculous offering they had to throw against Trump, only elected because of covid and bullchit allowing votes to get mailed in, resulting in a lot of shenanigans and almost assuredly some level of mass fraud.

Not a fan of Biden in any way, but much like I often argue Trump is not uniquely evil as the TDS types pretend, neither is Joe Biden. Joe Biden is an empty suit, senile and probably a p3dophile, sure, but his failed policies are just the normal extension of the DNC and establishment's normal routine. Chickens are just coming home to roost on his watch, a little more than usual, and some of it (*cough* border *cough*), while pretty much the same as Obama/Bush, it's finally coming to a head and the last guy at least tried and pointed out how bad it was. So the failure stinks all the more with him.

[6gorillion]

Cheney was the worst, but she is the pure dumbest.

[havoc00]

Not really (although, I did bring him up myself earlier).

He was brought in as the "foreign policy" expert to pad out Obama's soft resume. In reality, he's just a chickenhawk piece of chit, much like Clinton, McCain, Graham and most politicians in either party. His expertise is in nodding his head and agreeing to whatever the MIC tells him what war to beat drums for.

In that regard, he was no worse than anyone else. Obama inherited a lot of wars, kept them going, started a couple of his own. Business as usual, which while vile, ugly, inhuman and horrific -- also the sad status quo for American foreign policy. You can hardly single out Biden on that.

Otherwise, he was a stupid old man even then, constantly saying nonsense and mostly being ignored. So much they didn't even trot him out in 2016, thinking people were too smart to really go for that sack of crap and it being "Her time" and all. He then rose to the top of the toilet bowl in 2019-2020 amongst awful choices, basically being the least ridiculous offering they had to throw against Trump, only elected because of covid and bullchit allowing votes to get mailed in, resulting in a lot of shenanigans and almost assuredly some level of mass fraud.

Not a fan of Biden in any way, but much like I often argue Trump is not uniquely evil as the TDS types pretend, neither is Joe Biden. Joe Biden is an empty suit, senile and probably a p3dophile, sure, but his failed policies are just the normal extension of the DNC and establishment's normal routine. Chickens are just coming home to roost on his watch, a little more than usual, and some of it (*cough* border *cough*), while pretty much the same as Obama/Bush, it's finally coming to a head and the last guy at least tried and pointed out how bad it was. So the failure stinks all the more with him.

Accurate

[TaeBoNinja]

Not really (although, I did bring him up myself earlier).

He was brought in as the "foreign policy" expert to pad out Obama's soft resume. In reality, he's just a chickenhawk piece of chit, much like Clinton, McCain, Graham and most politicians in either party. His expertise is in nodding his head and agreeing to whatever the MIC tells him what war to beat drums for.

In that regard, he was no worse than anyone else. Obama inherited a lot of wars, kept them going, started a couple of his own. Business as usual, which while vile, ugly, inhuman and horrific -- also the sad status quo for American foreign policy. You can hardly single out Biden on that.

Otherwise, he was a stupid old man even then, constantly saying nonsense and mostly being ignored. So much they didn't even trot him out in 2016, thinking people were too smart to really go for that sack of crap and it being "Her time" and all. He then rose to the top of the toilet bowl in 2019-2020 amongst awful choices, basically being the least ridiculous offering they had to throw against Trump, only elected because of covid and bullchit allowing votes to get mailed in, resulting in a lot of shenanigans and almost assuredly some level of mass fraud.

Not a fan of Biden in any way, but much like I often argue Trump is not uniquely evil as the TDS types pretend, neither is Joe Biden. Joe Biden is an empty suit, senile and probably a p3dophile, sure, but his failed policies are just the normal extension of the DNC and establishment's normal routine. Chickens are just coming home to roost on his watch, a little more than usual, and some of it (*cough* border *cough*), while pretty much the same as Obama/Bush, it's finally coming to a head and the last guy at least tried and pointed out how bad it was. So the failure stinks all the more with him.

Biden has been wrong on ever single foreign policy issue in his career. Obama had to hide him away for 8 years. Kamala is annoying as hell, but even she isn't being hidden like Biden was.

You really can't point to anything positive Biden has done in his career

[JUSA]

Biden has been wrong on ever single foreign policy issue in his career. Obama had to hide him away for 8 years. Kamala is annoying as hell, but even she isn't being hidden like Biden was.

You really can't point to anything positive Biden has done in his career

Yes, he is a standard Neocon empty suit. Again, while repugnant and horrific -- also very standard. Lindsey Graham has been wrong on every single foreign policy issue of his career. McCain, Hillary, Obama for that matter (post pre-election rhetoric he lied about believing), etc... not defending him, just pointing out Biden is not uniquely awful - because you have to compare him to the average politician in Washington.

[Dan_S]

I'm barely old enough to remember Dan Quayle. He was the butt of many jokes.

Kamala is pretty terrible though.

[ohiostate124]

Does she actually do anything? You see clips of her weird azz laugh every now and then but you don’t hear a single thing about what she’s doing.

Legitimately the worst President and VP of all time.

[nutsy54]

Does she actually do anything?

Maybe she's just super-focused on fixing the southern border disaster...

(Which could be fixed with once sentence: "Hey Joe, dumbass, go back to border and immigration policies in place the day before you took office.")

[Deathstroke]

Post-dick Cheney VP’s have been bigly useless from what I can tell.