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    Stoicism is bs though. It's idealism to the extreme. The polar opposite of realism. You don't make reality. Reality makes you. You cannot overcome everything. If a guy chops your legs off, you can't walk anymore. If they cut your eyes out, you can't see. No amount of mental gymnastics brings that back. Stoicism is all about individualism and trying to overcome chit alone. But that is stupid. We are a collective species. A single baby cannot do anything and is defenseless. A single person is fresh meat for predators in the forest. But a society is powerful and capable of extraordinary things. Apes together strong. Apes alone weak. Very simple.

    Rather than embrace stoicism, it is more important to help each other. Rather than looking inward for strength, it is more important to look to your friends. If you are in the chit, with nothing and no one, you've already fuked up at being human because you aren't playing to your best strengths.

    Stoicism is the ideology of a warrior who is losing his battles. He's really in the chit. He's been captured and mutilated and now must cope with the failed reality of a failed society. Romanticizing such a hopeless and depressing ideology only invites the same results.

    Oh also, stoicism rejects emotion. But emotion drives the very empathy and bonding that produces greatness. It is emotion that stirs men to cooperate and achieve great things together. Without emotion, we are weak and wretched, indifferent to the suffering of others and suppressing our own.
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    Originally Posted by WCline View Post
    Stoicism is bs though. It's idealism to the extreme. The polar opposite of realism. You don't make reality. Reality makes you. You cannot overcome everything. If a guy chops your legs off, you can't walk anymore. If they cut your eyes out, you can't see. No amount of mental gymnastics brings that back. Stoicism is all about individualism and trying to overcome chit alone. But that is stupid. We are a collective species. A single baby cannot do anything and is defenseless. A single person is fresh meat for predators in the forest. But a society is powerful and capable of extraordinary things. Apes together strong. Apes alone weak. Very simple.

    Rather than embrace stoicism, it is more important to help each other. Rather than looking inward for strength, it is more important to look to your friends. If you are in the chit, with nothing and no one, you've already fuked up at being human because you aren't playing to your best strengths.

    Stoicism is the ideology of a warrior who is losing his battles. He's really in the chit. He's been captured and mutilated and now must cope with the failed reality of a failed society. Romanticizing such a hopeless and depressing ideology only invites the same results.

    Oh also, stoicism rejects emotion. But emotion drives the very empathy and bonding that produces greatness. It is emotion that stirs men to cooperate and achieve great things together. Without emotion, we are weak and wretched, indifferent to the suffering of others and suppressing our own.
    Your perspective is valued. Stoicism does emphasize individual resilience but doesn't negate the importance of community strength. Stoics recognize human interconnectedness and the power of collaboration. Stoicism doesn't advocate for emotion suppression but encourages understanding and mastery over them. It promotes emotional intelligence to harness positive emotions like empathy while mitigating negative ones. Philosophy offers diverse perspectives, and while Stoicism may not resonate with everyone, it provides insights into resilience and personal growth.
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    Originally Posted by WCline View Post
    Stoicism is bs though. It's idealism to the extreme. The polar opposite of realism. You don't make reality. Reality makes you. You cannot overcome everything. If a guy chops your legs off, you can't walk anymore. If they cut your eyes out, you can't see. No amount of mental gymnastics brings that back. Stoicism is all about individualism and trying to overcome chit alone. But that is stupid. We are a collective species. A single baby cannot do anything and is defenseless. A single person is fresh meat for predators in the forest. But a society is powerful and capable of extraordinary things. Apes together strong. Apes alone weak. Very simple.

    Rather than embrace stoicism, it is more important to help each other. Rather than looking inward for strength, it is more important to look to your friends. If you are in the chit, with nothing and no one, you've already fuked up at being human because you aren't playing to your best strengths.

    Stoicism is the ideology of a warrior who is losing his battles. He's really in the chit. He's been captured and mutilated and now must cope with the failed reality of a failed society. Romanticizing such a hopeless and depressing ideology only invites the same results.

    Oh also, stoicism rejects emotion. But emotion drives the very empathy and bonding that produces greatness. It is emotion that stirs men to cooperate and achieve great things together. Without emotion, we are weak and wretched, indifferent to the suffering of others and suppressing our own.
    It smells like communism
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    Originally Posted by m43s View Post
    Your perspective is valued. Stoicism does emphasize individual resilience but doesn't negate the importance of community strength. Stoics recognize human interconnectedness and the power of collaboration. Stoicism doesn't advocate for emotion suppression but encourages understanding and mastery over them. It promotes emotional intelligence to harness positive emotions like empathy while mitigating negative ones. Philosophy offers diverse perspectives, and while Stoicism may not resonate with everyone, it provides insights into resilience and personal growth.
    Fair enough. I suppose the version you are talking about is compatible with what I am saying then.
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    Originally Posted by WCline View Post
    Fair enough. I suppose the version you are talking about is compatible with what I am saying then.

    Indeed, it seems our perspectives align more closely than anticipated. Thank you for your understanding.
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    Originally Posted by userP9ZCAB8BVYV View Post
    It smells like communism
    There is nothing about political in that topic my friend xD
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    Originally Posted by WCline View Post
    Fair enough. I suppose the version you are talking about is compatible with what I am saying then.
    He’s talking about a rebranded 21st century capitalist version of stoicism designed to milk money for content out of the alpha male crowd which is why it’s posted here.

    You were more responding to how it appears the social effects of what is presented would be counter to your own philosophy for human advancement with a focus on collectivism which instinctively clashed with the individual focus of stoicism. This is more one of the reasons why it was packaged the way it was for our current times, then one of its main focuses.


    And really stoicism is fine, however it’s more of a personal development for dealing with adversity. It’s really just “don’t worry about things you can’t affect, be prepared for everything”. It’s not something that will turn you into Marcus Aurelius and things like meditations is more like an interesting look into a fascinating persons thoughts and what direction stoic line of thought took the most powerful man in the world at the time.

    Personally I think the epicureans were on to something much more. They lived in tiny community to pursue pleasure. But their definition of pleasure was in supporting each other and living simply while minimizing the bad things in life. Things like helping your friends bring you more pleasure in the long run then being selfish etc..

    Simple life, food, shelter, water, communal activities, temperance not gluttony.

    That’s how life should be lived ideally, stoicism is just a tool for helping people learn to accept the world and what it throws at you and not get too upset over things you can’t change.
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    Originally Posted by Duckliver View Post
    He’s talking about a rebranded 21st century capitalist version of stoicism designed to milk money for content out of the alpha male crowd which is why it’s posted here.

    You were more responding to how it appears the social effects of what is presented would be counter to your own philosophy for human advancement with a focus on collectivism which instinctively clashed with the individual focus of stoicism. This is more one of the reasons why it was packaged the way it was for our current times, then one of its main focuses.


    And really stoicism is fine, however it’s more of a personal development for dealing with adversity. It’s really just “don’t worry about things you can’t affect, be prepared for everything”. It’s not something that will turn you into Marcus Aurelius and things like meditations is more like an interesting look into a fascinating persons thoughts and what direction stoic line of thought took the most powerful man in the world at the time.

    Personally I think the epicureans were on to something much more. They lived in tiny community to pursue pleasure. But their definition of pleasure was in supporting each other and living simply while minimizing the bad things in life. Things like helping your friends bring you more pleasure in the long run then being selfish etc..

    Simple life, food, shelter, water, communal activities, temperance not gluttony.

    That’s how life should be lived ideally, stoicism is just a tool for helping people learn to accept the world and what it throws at you and not get too upset over things you can’t change.
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    Stoicism is bs though. It's idealism to the extreme. The polar opposite of realism. You don't make reality. Reality makes you. You cannot overcome everything. If a guy chops your legs off, you can't walk anymore. If they cut your eyes out, you can't see. No amount of mental gymnastics brings that back. Stoicism is all about individualism and trying to overcome chit alone. But that is stupid. We are a collective species. A single baby cannot do anything and is defenseless. A single person is fresh meat for predators in the forest. But a society is powerful and capable of extraordinary things. Apes together strong. Apes alone weak. Very simple.

    Rather than embrace stoicism, it is more important to help each other. Rather than looking inward for strength, it is more important to look to your friends. If you are in the chit, with nothing and no one, you've already fuked up at being human because you aren't playing to your best strengths.

    Stoicism is the ideology of a warrior who is losing his battles. He's really in the chit. He's been captured and mutilated and now must cope with the failed reality of a failed society. Romanticizing such a hopeless and depressing ideology only invites the same results.

    Oh also, stoicism rejects emotion. But emotion drives the very empathy and bonding that produces greatness. It is emotion that stirs men to cooperate and achieve great things together. Without emotion, we are weak and wretched, indifferent to the suffering of others and suppressing our own.
    Stoicism does not claim to give anyone super human powers.

    When practiced and developed, the skills outlined in the philosophy of stoicism can help you cope with adversity in a more productive manner.

    It does require to be grounded in reality. It does not trick people into believing they can grow a leg back. It helps them understand they can still have a productive and meaningful life without the leg, so there is no reason to throw any significant pity party that could delay or interfere with a productive healing process.
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    Stoicism does not claim to give anyone super human powers.

    When practiced and developed, the skills outlined in the philosophy of stoicism can help you cope with adversity in a more productive manner.

    It does require to be grounded in reality. It does not trick people into believing they can grow a leg back. It helps them understand they can still have a productive and meaningful life without the leg, so there is no reason to throw any significant pity party that could delay or interfere with a productive healing process.
    Exactly. But is true that some people are not very health minded and they get obsessed with theories for try desperately to guide their lifes... anyway, this is other thing..
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    Stoicism does not claim to give anyone super human powers.

    When practiced and developed, the skills outlined in the philosophy of stoicism can help you cope with adversity in a more productive manner.

    It does require to be grounded in reality. It does not trick people into believing they can grow a leg back. It helps them understand they can still have a productive and meaningful life without the leg, so there is no reason to throw any significant pity party that could delay or interfere with a productive healing process.
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