Baldurs Gate 3 Official Thread - In Larian We Trust

[Tanerian]

The last time I played and turned off the game for the final time, I walked in to that barn and saw the most degen scene ever in a video game.

Larian is demonically possessed. I'm not even joking.

[Contribution05]

So i beat the game, and gotta say....the ending to me felt Game of Thrones level bad. GOT, everyone said the writers just wanted to be done and just quickly wrapped the story up hurry and finish....thats exactly the same sensation i got from the ending cinimatic. Such build up after doing soooo much in Act 1, 2, and 3, and then the end comes and it was just like "wait, that's it? that's all you're going to tell me after everything i just did?"

[baldbrah]

So i beat the game, and gotta say....the ending to me felt Game of Thrones level bad. GOT, everyone said the writers just wanted to be done and just quickly wrapped the story up hurry and finish....thats exactly the same sensation i got from the ending cinimatic. Such build up after doing soooo much in Act 1, 2, and 3, and then the end comes and it was just like "wait, that's it? that's all you're going to tell me after everything i just did?"

Is it like witcher 3 where you can get the "bad" ending?

I spent a couple months slogging through all that chitty combat and the payoff was to get murked by a bunch of monsters at the end in a couple seconds cutscene. Didn't read spoilers so I screwed something up somewhere and was not spending another minute in that chitty game to go back and get a different ending.

[Contribution05]

Is it like witcher 3 where you can get the "bad" ending?

I spent a couple months slogging through all that chitty combat and the payoff was to get murked by a bunch of monsters at the end in a couple seconds cutscene. Didn't read spoilers so I screwed something up somewhere and was not spending another minute in that chitty game to go back and get a different ending.

It doesn't matter what you do, the ending is lackluster. I anticipated that all my decision making throughout the game would have some epilogue either through a cutscene or slide show or something to explain how the aftermath plays out for everything that i did in the game. But it doesnt do that at all. There's a couple variation endings depending on the most major plot points, but they are pretty lame overall, and yeah...very disappointed the endings dont cover at all some of the major quest decisions throughout the game.

With Act 3 being way more buggy than act 1 and 2 already, just a general feeling that they put a ton of effort in act 1 and 2, and then higher ups probably said "hey, this is the deadline, game has to be finished very soon, wrap it up" and then developers/writers rushed Act 3 and the ending.


Apparently I'm not the only one who felt this way...found some other comments online stating the same opinion.

As far as I am concerned there is no ending in this game, I feel like the whole ending was cut due to deadlines, bugs etc.

I have spent 161 hours on my first play through finishing every possible quest, looting every possible vase and revealing every cm of the map.

The ending left me feeling hollow, so I will wait for the definitive edition before playing again.

The quality of the ending cinematics is hilariously bad. The ending felt very abrupt, with no epilogue or opportunity to say farewell to the characters I spent more than 100 hours with. It's just disappointing.

After just playing Act 1 & 2 i was ready to give the game a 9/10. Act 3 bugs though i was knocking it down to 8.5, and now the ending im gonna knock it down to an 8/10 if i was to rate this game for a friend.

[chrsschb]

You brahs noticed some weirdness after the patch. Below is my (spoilery) example:

Spoiler!

In Act 3 you find Raphael and he offers to give you a special hammer that can free the dude in the artefact, you know, in exchange for becoming his pet. I chose no and carried on. After patch when I loaded my save Gale immediately stops me, "I can't believe you told Raphael you'd use the hammer blah blah." Yeah, I didn't, I just told Gale I was lying, but thought it was weird.

[chaoserver]

Not done with the game but it is funny how similar this game is to the studios DOS2, with the intro areas(spread out over two areas in DOS2), a light story area with lots of combat(the island in DOS2 and cursed lands in BG3), then a city in both where all the characters stories happen to culminate along with the main plot. Not a problem just a funny rehash.

I have two playthroughs going right now one co-op one solo Dark urge play through. Fist of Fury monk I recommend to beginners or as an off tank that outputs surprising damage with some control- However if you aren't controlling at least one other character I could see it getting boring for you(I'm controlling them and a bard in the co-op play through). Bard is unexpectedly awesome and very flexible. Mine is a bit of an off tank that can put out excellent CC and heals, take hits, and hand out buffs(theres a hat in act 1 that is stellar, making your inspiration heal 1 d6 of damage which is insane since that will be happening each turn as a bonus action). Warlock is almost too simple with you essentially just spamming blast with the occasional fireball. Strong but exceedingly simple.

Paladin seems the most generically good class-in my evil play through I have two paladins(one oathbreaker) and one sorcadin that is just in pally for the armor. Wild magic seems extremely fun both on barb and sorcerer, definetley looking forward to playing around with that more.

[bongowongo]

Lmfao I love the little touches in this game so much.



Had to escort this person through a hugely aggro area for that specific person. Was thinking what was the best course of action to get past .... Decided to cast invisibility on them and just waltzed out of the location without any alerts or getting into a fight. Excellent!

[Trudope]

Uh oh


Cohh goes in a bit hard on Act 3 ... Says that Act 1 and Act 3 felt like it was made by two different studios and that Act 3 doesn't seem to hit the highs as it was in the previous acts.

Says some of his favorite aspects are in act 3, but that it needed more time to cook..... But that he's still extremely confident that Act 3 will be fixed by Larian considering that they do it for all their games and the patches have been numerous and still dropping in a timely fashion.


Still claims that BG3 is one of the greatest gaming experiences he's ever played ...... He absolutely loves it, and even despite the flaws its still one of the best games he's ever played.



Bit disappointing, but not completely unexpected given the massive scope and ambition. I can understand what he's saying here .... Even despite my own personal flaws with the game, it is still one of the best games I've ever played so far and is easily my game of the generation because I don't think any game can top this.

Over 100 hours in total and 68 hours in my main run ----- about 5 hours in multiplayer with my relative. This game is masterclass.

I mean he is right, Act 3 doesn't hold up vs the previous acts and the endings are pretty lackluster. Apparently the same thing happened with Divinity so it isn't unlike Larian to have this issue which is a bit disappointing given the time they took to develop this game. Regardless, its still the best CRPG made since Dragon Age Origins

[sooby]

Just got done defeating Grym, I was wondering how tf do I defeat him but then I was like oh smash the forge on him. even then it is kind of awkward to get him to move within the vicinity.

Am liking my paladin/bard combo

rogue seems pretty situational, like in some instances he can be amazing but in others he seems like a liability.

[bongowongo]

JFC! Larian are beyond goated


Patch 2 is now Live!!!!


https://store.steampowered.com/news/...14378543586471




The speed at how they're rolling out these patches is insane.

[phaginator]

JFC! Larian are beyond goated


Patch 2 is now Live!!!!


https://store.steampowered.com/news/...14378543586471




The speed at how they're rolling out these patches is insane.

Best dev byyyyyyyyyyy faaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr

[bongowongo]

Best dev byyyyyyyyyyy faaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr

I took a suss on the patch notes .... ngl, bit disappointed that it didn't address an annoying bug I encountered in Act 3. Kinda ruined my 100% playthrough lol, but I'll just chalk it up as another permutation.



But yeah, I've reached Act 3 and definitely starting to see the game crack at the seams a little bit. Things feel just a little bit more disjointed and not nearly as seamless or perfect as Act 1 and 2 were ...... But Cohh was right, Act 3 definitely has some of the best moments in the game by far.

Personally haven't noticed any performance issues ... Just a few drops here and there but for the most part I haven't noticed anything too egregious ... Probably also might be because I started act 3 after patch 1 dropped.



When this game's definitive edition comes out next year, it's gonna be the game of the generation all over again lmao.

[Techriding101]

Im near the end of act 2. Going to restart the game with a friend once the ps5 version launches this weekend.

[BraneyGumble]

I'll have some days off next week, guess it's time to continue my playthrough.

I'm actually impressed that they've managed to pump out patch 2 on such a short notice. Did they fix the Minthara issues? Just browsed through the patch notes but haven't seen anything.

[phaginator]

I took a suss on the patch notes .... ngl, bit disappointed that it didn't address an annoying bug I encountered in Act 3. Kinda ruined my 100% playthrough lol, but I'll just chalk it up as another permutation.



But yeah, I've reached Act 3 and definitely starting to see the game crack at the seams a little bit. Things feel just a little bit more disjointed and not nearly as seamless or perfect as Act 1 and 2 were ...... But Cohh was right, Act 3 definitely has some of the best moments in the game by far.

Personally haven't noticed any performance issues ... Just a few drops here and there but for the most part I haven't noticed anything too egregious ... Probably also might be because I started act 3 after patch 1 dropped.



When this game's definitive edition comes out next year, it's gonna be the game of the generation all over again lmao.

Atleast Larian is pumping out patches but yeah act 3 will take some time for it to get fixed

[bongowongo]

I'll have some days off next week, guess it's time to continue my playthrough.

I'm actually impressed that they've managed to pump out patch 2 on such a short notice. Did they fix the Minthara issues? Just browsed through the patch notes but haven't seen anything.

Havnt read too deep into the previous issues, but nope ... Minthara stuff is still not addressed in patch notes, however Karlach is. Soon I suppose.

Hopefully soon, since after my current I may straight up jump into a second run and make use of Minthara and Karlach .... Currently running with Gay-le, Lazael and Shadow<3.

[BraneyGumble]

Havnt read too deep into the previous issues, but nope ... Minthara stuff is still not addressed in patch notes, however Karlach is. Soon I suppose.

Hopefully soon, since after my current I may straight up jump into a second run and make use of Minthara and Karlach .... Currently running with Gay-le, Lazael and Shadow<3.

Running the same party, lol.

Hope they did something about optimization, my laptop (RTX 2060, 16 GB RAM) did fairly good before the latest driver got released, but then performance dropped and couldn't really fix it even after tweaking the settings.

[bongowongo]

Running the same party, lol.

Hope they did something about optimization, my laptop (RTX 2060, 16 GB RAM) did fairly good before the latest driver got released, but then performance dropped and couldn't really fix it even after tweaking the settings.

Yeah hope the performance is good.



Jumping in right now to play it ... Really hope its a noticeable improvement.

[baldbrah]

Game is starting to piss me off. I'm a bit of a completionist, but trying to avoid spoilers. So I get to end of the gauntlet of Shar and half my quest log auto fails. So I load up a previous save and go complete a bunch of side missions and get a ton of loot. Like maybe 10 hours of content I didn't even realize I missed.

I do Iike how the game doesn't hold your hand, but man it's rough with the freedom of choice. I auto failed a couple more quests from act 1 back tracking when I ran past some corpses that didn't survive but were supposed to expand into later quests.

This game has way too much going on and doesn't tell you squat until you are locked out of something.

[bongowongo]

gf reviews

[bongowongo]

Game is starting to piss me off. I'm a bit of a completionist, but trying to avoid spoilers. So I get to end of the gauntlet of Shar and half my quest log auto fails. So I load up a previous save and go complete a bunch of side missions and get a ton of loot. Like maybe 10 hours of content I didn't even realize I missed.

I do Iike how the game doesn't hold your hand, but man it's rough with the freedom of choice. I auto failed a couple more quests from act 1 back tracking when I ran past some corpses that didn't survive but were supposed to expand into later quests.

This game has way too much going on and doesn't tell you squat until you are locked out of something.

Eh did you do the gauntlet or venture out into another region after that quest? --- There's a big disclaimer that pops up if you do something that's going to affect the rest of the regions quest.


There's only quite a few timed quests in act 1 and 2 .... But they do let you know or you at least have a decent idea of what's timed or not.

[baldbrah]

Eh did you do the gauntlet or venture out into another region after that quest? --- There's a big disclaimer that pops up if you do something that's going to affect the rest of the regions quest.


There's only quite a few timed quests in act 1 and 2 .... But they do let you know or you at least have a decent idea of what's timed or not.

It's not a timed thing. It's when you get to the nightsong prison I guess you are moving into act 3 so it locks out a lot of the act1-2 quests if you haven't completed them. There isn't any real warning until after you do the big fight with Balthazar and your quest log implodes. I had to go back and do the gith creche, a bunch of the under dark, and apparently I still need to go do moonrise tower.

[BraneyGumble]

Game is starting to piss me off. I'm a bit of a completionist, but trying to avoid spoilers. So I get to end of the gauntlet of Shar and half my quest log auto fails. So I load up a previous save and go complete a bunch of side missions and get a ton of loot. Like maybe 10 hours of content I didn't even realize I missed.

I do Iike how the game doesn't hold your hand, but man it's rough with the freedom of choice. I auto failed a couple more quests from act 1 back tracking when I ran past some corpses that didn't survive but were supposed to expand into later quests.

This game has way too much going on and doesn't tell you squat until you are locked out of something.

It literally does.

You get a pop up when you try to enter the Mountain Pass and also at the point of no return in the Shar thing.

Have a buddy who also auto failed tons of Moonrise Tower crap because he just diked around and somehow ended up doing the whole gauntlet. Then again he also managed to miss half of Grymforge after entering the forge arra. Guess he changed his mind after a bit of walking.

For some reason he thought that the Towers should be done last even though Halsin tells you to pop over there once you’re done getting schitfaced at the party. Then there’s the whole Inn sequence which gives you further incentive.

[baldbrah]

It literally does.

You get a pop up when you try to enter the Mountain Pass and also at the point of no return in the Shar thing.

Have a buddy who also auto failed tons of Moonrise Tower crap because he just diked around and somehow ended up doing the whole gauntlet. Then again he also managed to miss half of Grymforge after entering the forge arra. Guess he changed his mind after a bit of walking.

For some reason he thought that the Towers should be done last even though Halsin tells you to pop over there once you’re done getting schitfaced at the party. Then there’s the whole Inn sequence which gives you further incentive.

But the tower seems like the culmination of that area. I left it for last thinking I should explore the rest of the map first. Now I gotta reload an old save and go back there and finish up before freeing the nightsong again.

[BraneyGumble]

But the tower seems like the culmination of that area. I left it for last thinking I should explore the rest of the map first. Now I gotta reload an old save and go back there and finish up before freeing the nightsong again.

There aren’t any questlines/plot threads that DON’T lead you to to MT and like half a dozen after the Inn assault that do.

Rest of the map doesn’t even have any context without the quests you can pick up.

[BearyManilowe]

JFC! Larian are beyond goated


Patch 2 is now Live!!!!


https://store.steampowered.com/news/...14378543586471




The speed at how they're rolling out these patches is insane.

Best dev byyyyyyyyyyy faaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr

I took a suss on the patch notes .... ngl, bit disappointed that it didn't address an annoying bug I encountered in Act 3. Kinda ruined my 100% playthrough lol, but I'll just chalk it up as another permutation.



But yeah, I've reached Act 3 and definitely starting to see the game crack at the seams a little bit. Things feel just a little bit more disjointed and not nearly as seamless or perfect as Act 1 and 2 were ...... But Cohh was right, Act 3 definitely has some of the best moments in the game by far.

Personally haven't noticed any performance issues ... Just a few drops here and there but for the most part I haven't noticed anything too egregious ... Probably also might be because I started act 3 after patch 1 dropped.



When this game's definitive edition comes out next year, it's gonna be the game of the generation all over again lmao.

Atleast Larian is pumping out patches but yeah act 3 will take some time for it to get fixed

You guys know this game has been in early access for like 3 years pre-launch right? They've likely had a lot of this stuff already queued up. Some of it includes epilogues meaning the ending definitely was not finished.

I'm thoroughly enjoying the game but it does make you scratch your head thinking MAAAYBE some of those 10s should have been 9s and MAAAAYBE some of those review outlets should have maybe made it past Act 1 before writing a review.

There aren’t any questlines/plot threads that DON’T lead you to to MT and like half a dozen after the Inn assault that do.

Rest of the map doesn’t even have any context without the quests you can pick up.

I'm kind of with Bald Brah here in that it's wayyyyyyyy easy to get sucked down a rabbit hole that you're in no way ready for and progress the game in major ways that seemingly have no real rhyme or reason. It doesn't even feel like I should be at Grymforge yet (haven't finished Emerald Grove) but I've gotten sucked down here and now the evil Drow is trapped and I've got to get him out and fight all these retarded fuking dwarves who aggro just because you call the Drow a dick. It makes no sense sometimes and it's very easy to miss things.

I agree that I know the game definitely does give you warnings before you leave Acts so I know that, but pretending it's not easy to miss stuff is disingenuous at best.

[bongowongo]

Cotdamn.


I didn't expect to get quite a bit of feels during Shadowhearts personal quest ... I just completed her entire thing and this is some pretty good writing here, but more so elevated by the performances involved. Shadowhearts VA is a gem and she does such a good job of going through the different ranges and emotions. Even the overall story of her arch is pretty simple and straightforward, the genuine performance from the VA is outstanding.


Also some of these act 3 battles are retarded lol .... Sooo many mobs coming at you at once, I'd find it literally impossible to do if you don't have a wizard or have a ton of CC spells for your chars. At least the game is forcing me to make use of my entire spell repertoire.

[phaginator]

You guys know this game has been in early access for like 3 years pre-launch right? They've likely had a lot of this stuff already queued up. Some of it includes epilogues meaning the ending definitely was not finished.

I'm thoroughly enjoying the game but it does make you scratch your head thinking MAAAYBE some of those 10s should have been 9s and MAAAAYBE some of those review outlets should have maybe made it past Act 1 before writing a review.

ACT 1 and 2 are 10/10 and that's already 80+ hours alone, more than any game.

ACT 3 is still good but yes endings should be better.

Knowing Larian that will be fixed

[chrsschb]

Game is starting to piss me off. I'm a bit of a completionist, but trying to avoid spoilers. So I get to end of the gauntlet of Shar and half my quest log auto fails. So I load up a previous save and go complete a bunch of side missions and get a ton of loot. Like maybe 10 hours of content I didn't even realize I missed.

I do Iike how the game doesn't hold your hand, but man it's rough with the freedom of choice. I auto failed a couple more quests from act 1 back tracking when I ran past some corpses that didn't survive but were supposed to expand into later quests.

This game has way too much going on and doesn't tell you squat until you are locked out of something.

Typical Larian. They want to give you options and reward you for thinking outside the box. At the same time they "completionism" isn't really a thing in D&D. You are allowed to do just about anything you want given the talent of your DM, but the main story is still the main story. Larian is just trying to account for players doing things most wouldn't consider. And I'll admit I'm guilty. Really think I'm doing a lot of side quests and have probably missed 2/3 of them in reality.

But the tower seems like the culmination of that area. I left it for last thinking I should explore the rest of the map first. Now I gotta reload an old save and go back there and finish up before freeing the nightsong again.

Yeah you can go there and finish those quests no problem. I thought the same as you and had to reload an older save. Just leave the Nightsong for last and you're good.

ACT 1 and 2 are 10/10 and that's already 80+ hours alone, more than any game.

ACT 3 is still good but yes endings should be better.

Knowing Larian that will be fixed

There's a lot about Act 3 I don't like and a good bit I do. Definitely some performance issues in town that I wish would get figured out. I also missed out on some stuff because I did some quests in the wrong order but hey, that's the nature of the game.

[bongowongo]

You guys know this game has been in early access for like 3 years pre-launch right? They've likely had a lot of this stuff already queued up. Some of it includes epilogues meaning the ending definitely was not finished.

I'm thoroughly enjoying the game but it does make you scratch your head thinking MAAAYBE some of those 10s should have been 9s and MAAAAYBE some of those review outlets should have maybe made it past Act 1 before writing a review.



I agree that I know the game definitely does give you warnings before you leave Acts so I know that, but pretending it's not easy to miss stuff is disingenuous at best.



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3 years of early access and a lot of that was spent on polishing up act 1 and getting feedback on systems, mechanics etc. They released the game a month earlier and immediately started putting out all sort of patches and hotfixes.


Sure the early access helped a ton and I wish more games did this so that devs and consumers can work together to iron out of bugs and other stuff .... Regardless, the fact that Larian is still listening and still releasing patches and hotfixes in record time is still an incredible feat and something that we haven't seen from any dev for a game of this calibre.

I can guarantee that Starfield wont even receive 50% of what Larian has done in the next month and it'll be years before Bethesda even addresses the majority of stuff, if they even do that is. I have a feeling the majority of the problems in Starfield will instead be addressed by users via mods.



I can agree that somethings are easy to miss out ... But that feels more like the case for act 3 than for Act 1 or Act 2 .... You'd honestly have to be super carefree and not paying attention at all to miss out on stuff for Act 1 and 2 .... Maybe it's just me because I've played the early access .... .But it's literally impossible to miss out stuff in these two acts.


Act 1 -

Grove
Underdark
Grymforge
Geth Creviche

Any normal player would do Grove / Underdark as much as possible, before heading out to the gymforge. I've never played Grymforge or Underdark in the early access but the moment I got to the gyrmforge I knew that this is something that should be done a bit more later, even though I dabbled in it and still got the timed warning to do the gymforge stuff first so I was kinda forced to do some of it.... But for the creviche the only timed aspect is to save the dude, nothing else.

Geth creviche was my final stop before I moved to Act 2 and if you haven't completed the underdark / gymforge and everything else before moving to the shadowlands, then that's a player problem, not a Larian problem.



Act 2 is also impossible to miss because I actually did the shar gauntlet before I ventured further and I did as much as I could in the act 2 overworld before I hit the blocking point and then continued in the shar temple and ventured further ...... Had no issues of completing any stuff and didn't miss out on any quest as far as I know.

Can it be tutorialized a bit better? sure. I know a lot of newcomers may have difficulty understanding what's timed and what's not and how to proceed stuff ..... But honestly if you're paying attention to everything and kind of figuring out in your head what should be done its pretty much impossible to miss out on anything in the first two acts.


Act 3 is definitely more of a wildcard so for that I can definitely agree since I'm having a bit of trouble myself.