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01-26-2023, 07:25 AM #31
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01-26-2023, 07:47 AM #32
I watched the video a couple times.
To me the guy talks like a child repeating words he's heard. Maybe I just want to believe someone with medical degree and a directorial role at a publicly traded multi-national would seem less childish. I'd also like to believe anyone with direct knowledge and responsibility for what he's claiming would be way more careful talking about it with a stranger.
I have been talking about proven historical and ongoing conspiracies for a lot of years, I am the last one to deboonk 'cause snopes said so.
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01-26-2023, 07:49 AM #33
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01-26-2023, 08:02 AM #34
It's totally wild how he calls out lab leak from Wuhan. They are attempting to do exactly what EcoHealth and WIV were doing, so they can preemptively have vaccines ready. That was the whole point with all the EcoHealth research at Wuhan.
Also, he's obviously a bit standoffish with how he words things, like first he says it was brought up and they were discussing it, but then he kinda slips and admits they are already working on it.
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01-26-2023, 08:09 AM #35
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01-26-2023, 08:21 AM #36
Hopefully they mutate it real good, release it into the wild and then you or someone you love catch it and die before they dump the vaccine for it, then maybe you might see how making man-made Frankenviruses and exposing unwilling and unknowing people to it might not be such a cool thing to do.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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01-26-2023, 08:32 AM #37
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01-26-2023, 08:32 AM #38
That worked so well in Wuhan, right? Negs for life. This is bigger than Watergate. This is up there with politicians lying about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, bankers directing mortgage applicants to lie about their income pre-2008 so they could get a loan, "10% for the Big Guy (Biden)." His conversation in totality is in the same ballpark with the possibility that the CIA killed JFK.Light weight! Light weight baby!!!!
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01-26-2023, 08:36 AM #39
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'One of the things we [Pfizer] are exploring is like, why don't we just mutate it [COVID] ourselves so we could create -- preemptively develop new vaccines, right? So, we have to do that. If we're gonna do that though, there's a risk of like, as you could imagine -- no one wants to be having a pharma company mutating f--king viruses,' Walker said.
This is pretty fuking bad.. I mean you've literally got a big pharma executive telling us they wanted to keep the shiit mutating so they can keep making vaccines for it.
It's like when Big Tobacco put Nicotine into cigarettes because it was addictive and then their CEOs all swore under oath to congress that it wasn't.Last edited by Bushmaster; 01-26-2023 at 08:43 AM.
"Do you think SHE actually felt like that was a sexual thing he was doing? She's like 6. Only an actual p3do would think that she thought he was groping her, too."
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01-26-2023, 08:40 AM #40
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01-26-2023, 08:51 AM #41
Well he’s probably repeating it that way because the exact process is way over his head, and in meetings to discuss agendas and progress he only takes in what is presented to him in a way he can understand. If Bezos said “we’re working on a rocket that can get to mars and and land safely upon return” he wouldn’t be able to explain everything involved but he could speak on it as far as what they’re working on. Likely the same case with this guy. He doesn’t know how they’re doing it, but being the director of research he has detailed insight into what their current projects and goals are.+positive crew+
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01-26-2023, 08:53 AM #42
Or sugar companies putting $50k into a scientists pocket to generate a study saying it's fats that are killing us.
It was so convincing the government changed dietary guidelines. We had a fat p3dofile on TV convincing everyone a loaf of bread for lunch was health food.------♥♥-----
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01-26-2023, 08:56 AM #43
The technology and processes exist to research viruses safely. The origins of Covid don't change that. The problem is a lack of oversight and regulatory consequences for failure.
You're effectively saying you don't think virology should exist and is an immoral/unethical concept. tbh maybe that's where the real debate is.
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01-26-2023, 09:02 AM #44
The list of examples we know of is incredibly long and growing every year. Governments and corporations have proven time and time again that they are willing to prioritize profit over the health of citizens. This used to be something most people would agree on, but for some reason the injections and propaganda campaign that went along with them has changed the perspectives of millions.+positive crew+
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01-26-2023, 09:07 AM #45
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"Do you think SHE actually felt like that was a sexual thing he was doing? She's like 6. Only an actual p3do would think that she thought he was groping her, too."
"Not that it's impossible to touch a minor inappropriately, but it is true that a 6 year old girl will not recognize someone putting a hand on their chest as groping, whether it is inappropriate or not."
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01-26-2023, 09:14 AM #46
There's more to Virology than gain of function. I think the 2014 ban on gain of function research in Virology was because the technology and processes available were insufficiently safe.
The damage done over the last 3 years because of the NIH end-running around the ban to get it done in China with Eco Health Alliance validate those fears pretty clearly.
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01-26-2023, 09:18 AM #47
Strong pet peeve of mine since I have a Bachelor's in nutrition. The default advice they wanted us giving type 2 diabetics in the hospital was to replace some of their sugar with more complex carbs. That's it. Someone who follows through with that basic tweak will have insulin levels a little lower but it's marginally helpful and they'll be stuck on pharmaceuticals the rest of their lives. Type II DM can be reversed in basically everyone, but it requires radical change, including a very low carb diet permanently.
We know who the biggest mass murderers of all time have been. They're infamous for all time. But I say the biggest killer of all time is the sugar industry.Light weight! Light weight baby!!!!
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01-26-2023, 09:24 AM #48
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01-26-2023, 09:45 AM #49
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01-26-2023, 09:47 AM #50
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01-26-2023, 09:48 AM #51
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01-26-2023, 09:54 AM #52
Exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures. Even if I take him, by force, to the Pfizer boardroom and show him their meetings, he will refuse to believe it until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When the pharmaceutical industry crashes his health, then he will understand. But not before that. That is the tragedy of this situation of demoralization.
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01-26-2023, 09:59 AM #53
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01-26-2023, 11:12 AM #54
Gain of function is a terrible term. If you want to create a library of as many evolutions as you possibly can then some of them will have some gain of function. Is an experiment that has an outcome with a gain of function automatically gain of function research? There was no "ban" on gain of function research in 2014. They stopped funding it and began funding it again 3 years later. Even recent efforts to limit the funding of gain of function research only focused on China...and there are workarounds as you said. It's an incestuous industry.
Here's a fun quote from the "ban" in 2014:
The White House today stepped into an ongoing debate about controversial virus experiments with a startling announcement: It is halting all federal funding for so-called gain-of-function (GOF) studies that alter a pathogen to make it more transmissible or deadly so that experts can work out a U.S. government-wide policy for weighing the risks. Federal officials are also asking the handful of researchers doing ongoing work in this area to agree to a voluntary moratorium.
The "pause on funding," a White House blog states, applies to "any new studies … that may be reasonably anticipated to confer attributes to influenza, MERS, or SARS viruses such that the virus would have enhanced pathogenicity and/or transmissibility in mammals via the respiratory route." The government also "encourages those currently conducting this type of work—whether federally funded or not—to voluntarily pause their research while risks and benefits are being reassessed." Research and testing of naturally occurring forms of these pathogens will continue.
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01-26-2023, 11:21 AM #55
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01-26-2023, 11:28 AM #56
"Don't tell anyone. Promise you won't tell anyone."
That sounds like something a 13 year old girl would say to her friend.
Think about that. These are the same people creating and procreating these virus's.
THAT is the world we live in. People like that doing things that could kill us all.
And as a side note. I feel so bad for those monkey's and ALL of the animals that scientists experiment on. Makes me sick to see and hear what they go through.Words to live by...."You're at the shopping mall with your girl but a hot chick walks by. Are you going to look at the hot girl? No. You use your peripheral vision."
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