Why wasn't this incident over at the 2 minute mark when the door was closed? No one was under threat at the point it's just a person in their house holding a knife. This looks like a gang murdering an innocent person to me.
The guy in the original video though is completely different situation.
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04-02-2022, 09:13 AM #91
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04-02-2022, 09:21 AM #93
solid af point
The cops could have justified club use in this case. The tasers are killing more people than they're saving. Is there some sort of taser lobbying going on?
Yes, we can all agree that with the load out the cops had that they acted properly. The scope of error is above the individual police.
Problem is, these cops will never know if they need a weapon or not until they respond. However, if the cops carrying is what means they have to use lethal force, then that's kinda a self licking ice cream cone. There needs to be a tactic where non lethal measures are employed until escalation then lethal measures follow up. We cannot keep introducing the liability of firearms into simple scenarios then pretending its okay to escalate simply because of the element introduced by the police.Last edited by rectifryer; 04-02-2022 at 09:27 AM.
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04-02-2022, 10:32 AM #94
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It doesn’t matter if he deserves it or not, it’s a stupid argument. The question is, did he take the risk of playing stupid games and paid the price? The answer is yes.
If I’m drunk and I went into a lions cage, I don’t deserve to die for one drunken night where I’m not thinking at all, but if I do die, it doesn’t matter that I deserved it, it only matters that I put myself at risk and with any risk, there’s a chance it’ll happen.
Same thing applies to all of these situations where some idiot gets shot.
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04-02-2022, 10:36 AM #95
So what did you think was going to happen to the cop that shot? The giant knocked out his partner, and knocked the cop flat on his back. In the final moment before getting shot, the giant is getting on top of him. What do you think is going to happen to the cop on the ground with mr 6'5" of drunken roid rage towering over his prostrated body? They going to engage in a steamy make out session? Maybe the giant will suddenly realize "oh hey, sorry about knocking you on your arse bud just 'avin a laff, let me help you up. cheers"
Legitimately curious as to what you think would've happened had the cop not shot at that point.Last edited by volleys; 04-02-2022 at 10:44 AM.
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04-02-2022, 10:42 AM #96
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04-02-2022, 10:45 AM #97
Yet you don't explain how, real easy to complain without sharing your plan of action.
My only critique was the initial approach, grabbing the sister and pulling her was clearly gonna create problems now that we have hindsight. I woulda tried to isolate him in a calmer fashion, not get as close, start trying to talk the women into moving away.
that said: likely wouldn't have worked and still would likely end up in the same situation. glad i'm not a copaka. Tomthetrainwreck
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04-02-2022, 11:20 AM #99
Lol @ people thinking we should treat violent angry drunks like they're toddlers
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04-02-2022, 11:40 AM #100
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
All I said was that this situation could have ended without deaths.
In answer to your question, i don't know but i'd say the chances of him killing or seriously injuring the cop were slim. Do you really think that guy, at a wedding, had intent to kill?
Thanks for your pathetic little neg, at least you responded i guess, unlike the other little bish.
I didn't explain how because there isn't an easy answer. What you said above is actually pretty accurate as to what the individual cops could have done differently. The issue is, your cops bring guns to any situation, which of course turns any situation that wasn't deadly, in to a potentially deadly situation.
I'm not going to sit here and start explaining everything i think is wrong with the U.S policing system and i don't even have the answers, it is a complex issue and our countries are very different and require different policing.
I stand by what i said, this situation did not NEED to end in a death.
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04-02-2022, 12:13 PM #102
The government or anyone shouldn't tell us we can't have guns to defend ourselves and it's in our constitution. So cops should have guns to protect us and themselves too.
So in this situation they didn't shoot the guy until he not only could have seriously injured or killed the police or took their guns and used them. They don't know his intent, but they see he is trying to hurt them and doesn't stop once they are down. So I'm pretty sure they can guess his intent at that point after already getting the call about what this guy was doing which doesn't matter at this point.
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04-02-2022, 12:20 PM #103
You want to remove firearms from police to reduce that element? What should they carry then to stop violence and protect themselves and the community? Should we hire more cops so we can send more to every call at the cost of our tax dollars? Then hire more when they keep getting killed because someone has a knife, gun, bat etc and we lose officers because they can't stop that person without putting themselves in harms way no matter how many officers there are?
They never know what they're coming to, can't say wait let me go back to the station to grab my gun.
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04-02-2022, 12:44 PM #104
Yeah pretty sure that guy’s girlfriend or whatever made that situation 10x worse than it would have been if she would have just shut the fukc up
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04-03-2022, 01:41 AM #109
What about this example of racism? They arrest the cop (transit officer) because he shot a white dude
https://www-nbcchicago-com.cdn.amppr...tation/2793601
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04-03-2022, 01:42 AM #110
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04-03-2022, 04:33 AM #111
Bootlickers in here make me sick.
Firing your weapon should be the ABSOLUTE last resort. Period.
Yes punching a cop is wrong but it doesn't warrant death. A man's life has ended and a family is irrevocably ruined all because 'trained' law enforcement don't understand how to de-escalate. Seriously, a nightclub bouncer doesn't go around shooting every drunk bro who takes a swing at him.
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04-03-2022, 04:57 AM #112
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Night club bouncers don't carry tasers, handguns, and access to AR15s.. This guy was an unhinged lunatic who was beating in a LEOs skull while grabbing his taser. They had his ass dead to rights. Fk him and his retarded friends there.. Funny how they were all up in arms with the cops, but not their friend who was assaulting people at the wedding.
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