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11-30-2020, 08:50 AM #6151
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11-30-2020, 08:51 AM #6152
Hospitalizations this time of year go way up. Every year. Yes, thousands of hospitalizations are Covid cases adding to that. There is a lot of overlap. People who'd be in the hospital right now if Covid didn't exist. A higher ratio of flu cases cause hospitalization (about 1 in 70-80) than SARS-Cov2 has (about 1 in 200) but of course Covid has a higher death ratio and spreads easier.
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11-30-2020, 09:14 AM #6153
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11-30-2020, 09:17 AM #6154
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Not quite, but it's not good news that covid deaths are 1 every minute in the US.
I trust that medical professionals generally know how to assess cause of death and that there's neither a huge global conspiracy to fraudulently inflate the numbers nor a mass wave of international incompetence on how doctors assess cause of death.
Agreed with the bolded.
Medical professionals internationally know how to assess cause of death when multiple comorbidities are present.It's hard to win an argument with a smart person. It's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person. - Bill Murray
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11-30-2020, 09:34 AM #6155
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11-30-2020, 09:37 AM #6156
south and midwest are ****ing up the covid statistics.
30k + 30k = 60k, from a total of 90k hosp. 65% of total hosp are redneck cucks~~^^Misc Twitter Crew^^~~
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11-30-2020, 09:57 AM #6157
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11-30-2020, 10:03 AM #6158
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11-30-2020, 10:21 AM #6159
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11-30-2020, 10:51 AM #6160Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."
z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"
Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."
z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?
Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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11-30-2020, 10:58 AM #6161
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11-30-2020, 11:03 AM #6162Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."
z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"
Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."
z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?
Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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11-30-2020, 11:32 AM #6163
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11-30-2020, 11:33 AM #6164
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11-30-2020, 11:37 AM #6165Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."
z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"
Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."
z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?
Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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11-30-2020, 11:50 AM #6166
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11-30-2020, 12:19 PM #6167
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11-30-2020, 12:27 PM #6168
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11-30-2020, 12:29 PM #6169
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11-30-2020, 12:31 PM #6170
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11-30-2020, 12:33 PM #6171
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Kind of a pointless rebuttal as the implication you're making is that the mere existence of death makes any efforts to save lives meaningless.
Nah. 30 minutes to listen to some nobody attempt to defend a right wing talking point that has no basis in fact is about 29 minutes too many.
Occams razor applies here. Millions of medical professionals worldwide did not all suddenly forget how to correctly identify cause of death. This isn't hard logic to arrive at.It's hard to win an argument with a smart person. It's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person. - Bill Murray
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11-30-2020, 01:07 PM #6172
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Its about risk vs reward. That's why driving a car and deaths related to cars is a great analogy. We are willing to accept a certain amount of death for cars. So clearly there is an acceptable number, and not the "if even 1 person dies its too many" garbage people try to spew.
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11-30-2020, 01:10 PM #6173
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11-30-2020, 01:53 PM #6174
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Kind of a bad analogy as in the whole of 2019 only 36,000 people died in the US from auto accidents, yet it's still a priority for national and local officials to reduce the number of deaths. There are quite a few laws designed to reduce highway deaths from seatbelt mandates, prohibitions against driving drunk or under the influence of drugs, mandatory auto manufacturer safety standards, traffic speed limit enforcement, etc.
One would say that quite a bit of personal liberties are curtailed in the effort to reduce highway deaths.
And that's for a cause of death that kills less people in one entire year than covid kills in one month. So if anything, your analogy would indicate that more laws and mandates should be enacted to slow the death rate of covid. Interesting hot take.It's hard to win an argument with a smart person. It's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person. - Bill Murray
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11-30-2020, 01:56 PM #6175
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11-30-2020, 01:58 PM #6176
He was VP and Chief Scientific Officer (Allergy & Respiratory Research) with Pfizer but go on and tell me about how it's "right wing talking points" because clearly you know more than him and others who have said the same exact thing as him....you are a special kind of stupid aren't you?
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11-30-2020, 02:06 PM #6177
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11-30-2020, 02:07 PM #6178
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What a senseless analogy. Odds are you’ll be in 3 or 4 car crashes in your life despite the tens of thousands of times you’re in a car. Of those crashes the odds are 1 in 100 it will be fatal. Plus car crashes aren’t contagious. And yet billons are spent to make cars safer.
If your odds of getting in a plane crash were the same as dying of Covid, the airfare industry would be bankrupt in a year.
If you’re going to argue at least be intellectually honest.Early AM workout crew.
Holy crap dude, Satan's huge crew.
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11-30-2020, 02:15 PM #6179
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Give me the cliffs. What is he alleging? Either a) a massive international conspiracy to fraudulently lie about true cause of death or b) a massive international embarrassment as we find out medical professionals the world over never actually knew how to accurately assess cause of death.
So which is it?It's hard to win an argument with a smart person. It's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person. - Bill Murray
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11-30-2020, 03:11 PM #6180
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