🤪🤪🤪 COVID-19 Misinformation, Speculation, Conspiracy Theories Thread #1 🤪🤪🤪

[5x10]

You gotta figure there are a lot of mild cases of this where people aren't going to hospitals and just self treating as well. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual "infected" number is much higher, albeit not severe though.

The burning bodies things is really strange though. How the eff can you just start incinerating corpses like that. Those are people's family members.

yeah, I believe there are a ton more cases not being reported, including those that have recovered and those that have died

They are locking up whole skyscraper apartment buildings , no way they know the conditions of the people inside

[ANumber1]

You gotta figure there are a lot of mild cases of this where people aren't going to hospitals and just self treating as well. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual "infected" number is much higher, albeit not severe though.

Yep, the more you crack down, the more people lie.

The burning bodies things is really strange though. How the eff can you just start incinerating corpses like that. Those are people's family members.

Yeah, of course, it's not a free country, but cremations have been mandatory in China for years. Apparently, when they started actually enforcing it a few years ago, some elderly Chinese people chose to commit suicide because they wanted to be buried before the deadline.

https://www.latimes.com/world/asia/l...106-story.html

In December 2013, authorities in Xuancheng — a city in Anhui province about 125 miles from Anqing — dug up the recently buried corpse of an 83-year-old man, doused it in gasoline and set it on fire after the man’s family refused to cremate him.

Less than a year later, two Guangdong province officials were caught buying corpses from grave robbers to meet cremation quotas. Both were arrested.

Anqing officials have denied that the policy caused any deaths. “The whole reform went very, very smoothly,” insisted Qian Shouzhuang, Xianrong’s party secretary. “Zero people resisted. Nobody in this village put up any resistance to the reform.”

The state-run Beijing News tallied six elderly suicides across the municipality. Some elderly villagers drank pesticide, it said in a report; one jumped down a well; another killed herself after officials destroyed her coffin in front of her.

Wang Minghu, a 53-year-old fisherman in Xiangjin, a village of 1,500 people near Xianrong, said that his 81-year-old mother Zhang Wenyi hanged herself from a tree after hearing about the policy in May 2014.

“Not one person here actually wants to be cremated,” said Wang. “Maybe one exception is the party secretary, the village cadres. But no one else.”

[CremePie18]

Base Reproduction Rate is high, around 3. Which means for every person who has this, they will on average infect another 3 people. Anything above 1 is bad and means that it can be spread and not easy to contain. Seasonal flu is 1.2 as a comparison.

There is evidence of asymptomatic shedding, meaning you can pass the virus without any symptoms. This wasn't the case with SARS. This is how SARS could be controlled, but evidence points towards Corona not being controllable.

Healthy people can catch Corona. Yes, they don't die. But half the people who catch it are healthy. They can then easily spread the virus to others.

Mortality rate of ebola and SARS were much higher than Corona, but they could easily be contained, whereas Corona can't. Bottom line is that this thing could quite easily infect huge parts of the world population, which is going to cause all kinds of problems. Wuhan right now is like something out of a zombie apocalypse. This city was once just like any city, like the one I and you are currently living in. Don't be foolish enough to think that this virus can't do the same to you. The virus won't care what country you are from, or how your healthcare system works. It will attack you in the exact same way it is attacking Wuhan right now.

Confirmed asthma sufferer^


Pathetic.

[Procta]

i still don’t trust the Chinese numbers two weeks from now

some pretty wild videos out there from China on the internet ... they are taking it pretty seriously it seems

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

but cremations have been mandatory in China for years.

Didn't know this, not so weird now. Repped for a lot of good info ITT

[TreyTrey]

Every year it's a new 'thing' that's going to wipe us out.

You guys are just being fearmongered by mainstream media to stay scared and docile.

[Fairplay]

Guess I'll be checking out then...... RIP me.

The good news is your immune system may not be as amazing as you think. The vitamins and such may support your immune system but basically nothing will really improve it, you're basically born with a set base.

[Fairplay]

Every year it's a new 'thing' that's going to wipe us out.

You guys are just being fearmongered by mainstream media to stay scared and docile.

Mainstream media have been pretty quiet about this actually.

[Johnez]

Mainstream media have been pretty quiet about this actually.

This. MSM is surprisingly calm. Fox and CNBC have begun to ramp up fears though...

[Underwrought]

Mainstream media have been pretty quiet about this actually.

This. MSM is surprisingly calm. Fox and CNBC have begun to ramp up fears though...

Good point actually. They have been reporting on it, but barely and pretty basically. USUALLY they would blow this **** the **** up, as it would get good ratings. Usually when things are quiet is when you should panic most.

[doughnutking]

Every year it's a new 'thing' that's going to wipe us out.

You guys are just being fearmongered by mainstream media to stay scared and docile.

Britain told its citizens on Tuesday to leave China if they could, saying the suspension of airline flights and restrictions on movement will make it harder to leave over coming weeks.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ch...-idUKKBN1ZY1MW

but muh fake news..

you need to differentiate between the two.

[ItsJamesthefin]

The fact that this isn't really spreading exponentially outside of China should be reassuring. Maybe too early to draw any conclusions but this doesn't seem as serious outside of China. Only one death outside of China and the person was from China. This still could be an issue for countries like Indonesia, Pakistan, India, etc...

[clangsta]

Too early to be confident about the spread outside of China. Many experts believe it will be a global pandemic. The case involving a person who travelled from South Korea to Thailand and contacted the disease is particularly worrying. This is only going to get worse, not better. All of the travel around Chinese New Year was the big killer as far as the spread of the virus goes. Give it a few more weeks and the reality will start to hit home as more nations are infected beyond control.

[Johnez]

What radio news is worried about:
-"I have to blow my nose in private, I've never experienced racism before."
-BBC reporting on the WHO's latest worry: "info-demic," there's simply too much information out there right now and it's not all accurate-no fukkin chit retards. Go get the real numbers out of China and do your fukkin job.
-Hur dur, Iowa caucus went to chit. Also, Iowa too white to be first in the nation.
-Profile on the Democrat response to SOTU, in Spanish. Just LMFAO.

Yeah, media def not too concerned. Moment there's an outbreak I'm pulling the kids out of school. Live in a county with one of the highest Asian populations in USA, we've got a case. County next to us, also huge Asian population-has a case. Other neighboring county-200 in quarantine. Paranoid? Maybe. Don't fukkin care. Got my preps.

[Vexidi]

What radio news is worried about:
-"I have to blow my nose in private, I've never experienced racism before."
-BBC reporting on the WHO's latest worry: "info-demic," there's simply too much information out there right now and it's not all accurate-no fukkin chit retards. Go get the real numbers out of China and do your fukkin job.
-Hur dur, Iowa caucus went to chit. Also, Iowa too white to be first in the nation.
-Profile on the Democrat response to SOTU, in Spanish. Just LMFAO.

Yeah, media def not too concerned. Moment there's an outbreak I'm pulling the kids out of school. Live in a county with one of the highest Asian populations in USA, we've got a case. County next to us, also huge Asian population-has a case. Other neighboring county-200 in quarantine. Paranoid? Maybe. Don't fukkin care. Got my preps.

good job basedbrah

[jasticus]

Every year it's a new 'thing' that's going to wipe us out.

You guys are just being fearmongered by mainstream media to stay scared and docile.

You’re just to low iq to recognize data and patterns

Especially when I don’t watch msm and get my info from alternative sources.

[redmelly]

yeah, I believe there are a ton more cases not being reported, including those that have recovered and those that have died

They are locking up whole skyscraper apartment buildings , no way they know the conditions of the people inside

This is just crazy if true. People are going to die in there. And then they really have a problem with rotting corpses. Maybe they come in only to remove the dead? What a horror show.

[Johnez]

This is just crazy if true. People are going to die in there. And then they really have a problem with rotting corpses. Maybe they come in only to remove the dead? What a horror show.

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good job basedbrah

Based, you're right. Low key freaking out on too much info. Srs. Just hit the gym, had rational thoughts, feel better. Chits not falling apart. Yet anyway.

Here's a thought a few moves ahead-what do you guys think is going to be the fallout when the dust settles on this? I'm talking about laws and measures passed in response, liberties eroded, etc? After 9/11, we had the Patriot Act, airport scanners, and Homeland Security. I wonder what if anything is going to change. WHO mentioned the danger of certain types of info, maybe we'll see more active internet surveillance, more acceleration of biometric info being used, more facial recognition camera tech in public spaces.

[rocksmith]

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Based, you're right. Low key freaking out on too much info. Srs. Just hit the gym, had rational thoughts, feel better. Chits not falling apart. Yet anyway.

Here's a thought a few moves ahead-what do you guys think is going to be the fallout when the dust settles on this? I'm talking about laws and measures passed in response, liberties eroded, etc? After 9/11, we had the Patriot Act, airport scanners, and Homeland Security. I wonder what if anything is going to change. WHO mentioned the danger of certain types of info, maybe we'll see more active internet surveillance, more acceleration of biometric info being used, more facial recognition camera tech in public spaces.

Was talking about exactly this just yesterday; new security measures for your safety-forced "flu" vaccines maybe, more facial recognition to track people if infected by xyz..(?)

[jtaylor2010]

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Based, you're right. Low key freaking out on too much info. Srs. Just hit the gym, had rational thoughts, feel better. Chits not falling apart. Yet anyway.

Here's a thought a few moves ahead-what do you guys think is going to be the fallout when the dust settles on this? I'm talking about laws and measures passed in response, liberties eroded, etc? After 9/11, we had the Patriot Act, airport scanners, and Homeland Security. I wonder what if anything is going to change. WHO mentioned the danger of certain types of info, maybe we'll see more active internet surveillance, more acceleration of biometric info being used, more facial recognition camera tech in public spaces.

Just like the records already existed and they just had to push the Patriot Act to legally access them, they’ll push some legislation to do all kinds of stuff with your DNA. On top of that they’ll probably mandate all kinds of stuff for “public health”, some of which will seem legit and some that’s shady as hell.

[jasticus]

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...-over-21426098

[redmelly]

Guess I need to buy my cabin in the woods.........

All SRS tho, stuff like this makes me inclined to really get a disaster prep going at my home.

You don’t want to be too isolated in case you need medical treatment.

[jasticus]

Guys clearly China is frauding death numbers. How many do you think are dead? How high do you guys think the mortality rate is? I’m guessing minumum 100 die a day.

[Ratfish]

Guys clearly China is frauding death numbers. How many do you think are dead? How high do you guys think the mortality rate is? I’m guessing minumum 100 die a day.

we'll never know, but whatever that number is, it's increasing daily

[Underwrought]

Guys clearly China is frauding death numbers. How many do you think are dead? How high do you guys think the mortality rate is? I’m guessing minumum 100 die a day.

Thats the problem its impossible to know because they are completely cutting off any communication to the outside world best they can. They dont have to (and cant) stop it 100% just make sure no one can piece together a reliable number. Im sure its higher than whats reported, but could be 10 one day, 100 the next, 0 the next, etc. Maybe it only kills Asian Men more (as reported) so cant use whats happening outside china as a reliable source yet till it gets bigger.

If its not full pandemic by next month this time its a dud.

[jasticus]

Thats the problem its impossible to know because they are completely cutting off any communication to the outside world best they can. They dont have to (and cant) stop it 100% just make sure no one can piece together a reliable number. Im sure its higher than whats reported, but could be 10 one day, 100 the next, 0 the next, etc. Maybe it only kills Asian Men more (as reported) so cant use whats happening outside china as a reliable source yet till it gets bigger.

If its not full pandemic by next month this time its a dud.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...-over-21426098

Considering they cremating 24/7 seems to be high af

[Underwrought]

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...-over-21426098

Considering they cremating 24/7 seems to be high af

Ive heard that too as far as 24/7 cremation, which might probably be true. But also realize that article/fog **** is bull****. the implication is, its smoke from all the dead bodies being burnt, but that area of china is HEAVY industrial and known for lots of pollution which is seen as haze/fog like that all the time. Also youre dealing with people who are on high alert, scared, and SUPER superstitious.

[cadetduke]

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...-over-21426098

Considering they cremating 24/7 seems to be high af

Looks like a normal day for Wuhan. It's been called China's smog city for fuks sake

This is a pic of Wuhan from like 2012

[lolhey]

I'm probably an idiot, but why don't they fly planes of sick people to nearby hospitals for treatment? China obviously makes the rules here.
414 of the 427 dead WORLDWIDE is in Hebei, with nowhere to go and probably no medical treatment available. Being sick and not being able to get treated in time, waiting to die.. I can't even imagine how that must feel like. You don't see anywhere near the amount of deaths from the rest of the world, or even rest of China.

Obviously they want to contain the virus, but if you're talking about hundreds of lives(if not more), can't they come up with a safe method to transfer at least some of the sick to somewhere else?

[Vexidi]

Frank Plummer, former head of the Canadian National Microbiology Lab, dead at 67

"He won many awards during his career, for his research into HIV transmission and for providing leadership at the National Microbiology Lab during the SARS outbreak, including the Canada Gairdner Wightman Award in 2016. He was also at the helm of the lab during Ebola scares and during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic."

Cause of death not reported but Canada’s chief public health officer described Plummer’s death as “sudden” in a statement where she referred to him as her mentor.

https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/frank-pl...t-67-1.4797116