Any new breakthroughs in preworkouts?

[ItsJamesthefin]

I have been using the same 4 preworkouts for years now and it seems like unless you go to the dangerous stim heavy products. They are all basically the same clinically dosed products with the same ingredients. So my question is there a new ingredient that a company has come out with that could change preworkouts?

[Kewbrah]

The big breakthrough of recent years is everyone settling on basically the same formula

[BiomedDood]

Well..not with FDA breathing down their necks and more health lawsuits and investigations and of course, bloody companies waging war against their own competitor.

I miss the days of DMAA based PWOs (I miss u, Jack3d and DS Craze!!) and top notch prods that actually worked and cost average of $25 for 30 servings.

Now it's just a marketed cookie-cutter products with the usual caffine, beta-alanine, creatine and whole bunch of mumbo jumbo horse penis semen to make it stand out more than the other kid on the block.

The usual EC stack still works (and the MOST EFFECTIVE AND CHEAPEST PWO) but ephedra ****s a lot of people up long term (it ****ed my thyroid over time but I did abuse it heavily).

IMO, the PWO world is pretty much stalled now unless u go into the nether realm of 'eat clen and tren hard' ;-).

I gave up all stims/PWO about 3 months back (and gave up on black coffee) and slowly trying to introduce a lighter PWO back into my routine.

But man, I do miss those old days of taking a scoop of DS Craze in the morning on an empty stomach and spending 2 hours in the gym, feeling like I'm Jesus Christ himself.

[mtpaquette]

Some killer flavors. lol



After the FDA letters went out with DMHA is seems everyone stopped looking for novel ingredients and stuck with the tried and true.

[Xpiro]

Well..not with FDA breathing down their necks and more health lawsuits and investigations and of course, bloody companies waging war against their own competitor.

I miss the days of DMAA based PWOs (I miss u, Jack3d and DS Craze!!) and top notch prods that actually worked and cost average of $25 for 30 servings.

Now it's just a marketed cookie-cutter products with the usual caffine, beta-alanine, creatine and whole bunch of mumbo jumbo horse penis semen to make it stand out more than the other kid on the block.

The usual EC stack still works (and the MOST EFFECTIVE AND CHEAPEST PWO) but ephedra ****s a lot of people up long term (it ****ed my thyroid over time but I did abuse it heavily).

IMO, the PWO world is pretty much stalled now unless u go into the nether realm of 'eat clen and tren hard' ;-).

I gave up all stims/PWO about 3 months back (and gave up on black coffee) and slowly trying to introduce a lighter PWO back into my routine.

But man, I do miss those old days of taking a scoop of DS Craze in the morning on an empty stomach and spending 2 hours in the gym, feeling like I'm Jesus Christ himself.

A mom & pop shop shop in my neighborhood started selling Jack3d with DMAA as well as a couple others with the stuff. It’s still around, but I’m hesitant to start taking it again because of my currently relatively well-controlled insomnia. Loved the stuff, felt kind of like ******** before my tolerance shot up.

[p0fell0w]

what's a good recommendation on preworkout?

I haven't took one for a very long time.

[Farley1324]

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What you missed contained off-label, illegal drugs, that got people in real world trouble on drug tests.

It's good that we are currently "missing" that (as far as we seem to know)

You should do a better job hiding your obvious steroid recommendations, BTW

what's a good recommendation on preworkout?

I haven't took one for a very long time.

Controlled Labs White Warped
Dymatize Pre
Scream (it's back I think?)
Pre Kaged
One More Rep Complete
C4-Ultimate
PES Prolific

[powercage]

what's a good recommendation on preworkout?

I haven't took one for a very long time.

White Warped
Outlift
Tier 1

[oldandintheway]

what's a good recommendation on preworkout?

I haven't took one for a very long time.

Strong coffee. 2 cups

[gbullock32]

What you missed contained off-label, illegal drugs, that got people in real world trouble on drug tests.

It's good that we are currently "missing" that (as far as we seem to know)

You should do a better job hiding your obvious steroid recommendations, BTW



Controlled Labs White Warped
Dymatize Pre
Scream (it's back I think?)
Pre Kaged
One More Rep Complete
C4-Ultimate
PES Prolific

The questionable ingredients were the best, because they really worked; lucked out on Craze, took it a few times and didn't like it. Would have boned me on tests when applying for my current job when that was around.