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    Knee pain recommendations

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    2: Same except front squats replace back and extensions replace leg press.

    I have been having some knee pain all of the sudden. I’m about 6 weeks into the cycle and just got it this week. I have recently switched GHR out for RDL because I was feeling some knee pain but that didn’t seem to help. I don’t usually deload until 8 weeks. What are some recommendations?
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    Originally Posted by BoBSMVW View Post
    What are some recommendations?
    Go see an Ortho
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    Originally Posted by BS57 View Post
    Go see an Ortho
    For knee pain? I am sure it isn’t an injury but just pain.
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    Originally Posted by BoBSMVW View Post
    For knee pain? I am sure it isn’t an injury but just pain.
    "Just pain" is not normal. Id switch front and back squats for parallel box squats.
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    A forum is not the place for a medical diagnosis. Nobody here can tell you what the pain is from, and we certainly aren't going to give you training advice when you are dealing with a possible unknown injury and risk causing more harm.
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    Originally Posted by health4life24 View Post
    A forum is not the place for a medical diagnosis. Nobody here can tell you what the pain is from, and we certainly aren't going to give you training advice when you are dealing with a possible unknown injury and risk causing more harm.
    I reread my original post to make sure I didn’t ask for a diagnosis. Seems I didn’t. No one ever has joint pain after lifting for a while?
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    If you do want advice you need to be much more specific in your description. "Pain" is far too generic. Consider letting us know.

    1. When did it start?
    2. Where exactly is it? Is it localized to one spot or more generalized? Does it move around anywhere or radiate?
    3. Is it constant or intermittent? If intermittent, does anything trigger it? How long does it last when you have it? Does it wake you up at night? Do you have it when you wake up in the morning before you get out of bed?
    4. What does it feel like? Sharp, achy, burning, electric, other?
    5. Any associated symptoms? Redness/warmth/swelling of the knee? Weakness/numbness/tingling?
    6. Has anything helped it? Have you tried any meds, wraps, or anything else?

    Those are the standard questions I ask patients with a pain complaint. Then I ask more detailed questions based on the answers to those, do my physical exam, and then figure out if I need imaging or need to refer to a specialist. If you answer them hopefully I can at least tell you who to go to to obtain a diagnosis.
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    Originally Posted by BoBSMVW View Post
    I reread my original post to make sure I didn’t ask for a diagnosis. Seems I didn’t. No one ever has joint pain after lifting for a while?
    It can be tight muscles, tendonitis or terminal knee cancer/HIV. The recommendation would change for each. I would stop doing whatever makes it hurt for X# of days and then ease back into your full routine. If the pain is still there then look at seeing someone, if the pain is less then maybe continue your reduced work out for X# more days until pain is gone.
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    Originally Posted by Heisman2 View Post
    If you do want advice you need to be much more specific in your description. "Pain" is far too generic. Consider letting us know.

    1. When did it start?
    2. Where exactly is it? Is it localized to one spot or more generalized? Does it move around anywhere or radiate?
    3. Is it constant or intermittent? If intermittent, does anything trigger it? How long does it last when you have it? Does it wake you up at night? Do you have it when you wake up in the morning before you get out of bed?
    4. What does it feel like? Sharp, achy, burning, electric, other?
    5. Any associated symptoms? Redness/warmth/swelling of the knee? Weakness/numbness/tingling?
    6. Has anything helped it? Have you tried any meds, wraps, or anything else?

    Those are the standard questions I ask patients with a pain complaint. Then I ask more detailed questions based on the answers to those, do my physical exam, and then figure out if I need imaging or need to refer to a specialist. If you answer them hopefully I can at least tell you who to go to to obtain a diagnosis.
    Felt it coming on but just started to actually bug me for the last couple days. I think it might have something either to do with RDLs but I don’t think that is it. The only other thing I have changed is doing front squats. Only hurts when squatting and getting up from a squat. If I didn’t squat prob wouldn’t even recognize it. I don’t think it is serious was just wondering if there were tips with joint pain such as backing off on the load or switching exercises. Mostly just the front of both knees when squatting
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    Originally Posted by BoBSMVW View Post
    Felt it coming on but just started to actually bug me for the last couple days. I think it might have something either to do with RDLs but I don’t think that is it. The only other thing I have changed is doing front squats. Only hurts when squatting and getting up from a squat. If I didn’t squat prob wouldn’t even recognize it. I don’t think it is serious was just wondering if there were tips with joint pain such as backing off on the load or switching exercises. Mostly just the front of both knees when squatting
    You somehow managed to not answer all the questions. How long does the pain last? What does it feel like? Is it above the patella, at the patella, or below the patella? Is it both legs equally?

    Could you post a video of yourself squatting?
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    Originally Posted by BS57 View Post
    Go see an Ortho
    Or at least get it checked out by your doctor

    Originally Posted by BoBSMVW View Post
    For knee pain? I am sure it isn’t an injury but just pain.
    Yes, just knee pain...could be anything..why keep going if it persists?
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    Originally Posted by Heisman2 View Post
    You somehow managed to not answer all the questions. How long does the pain last? What does it feel like? Is it above the patella, at the patella, or below the patella? Is it both legs equally?

    I would say right in middle. It isn’t like a super painful feeling, more of something I want to fix before it gets bad, but it seems might have to take some time off of squatting for long term health. Right leg more than left (right leg dominant). It feels like an ouchie... not sure kind of hard to answer. Some people recommend a deload when you start to feel joint pain which is kind of what I was leaning toward but wanted other recommendations

    Could you post a video of yourself squatting?
    Would take a few days to post video
    would say right in middle. It isn’t like a super painful feeling, more of something I want to fix before it gets bad, but it seems might have to take some time off of squatting for long term health. Right leg more than left (right leg dominant). It feels like an ouchie... not sure kind of hard to answer. Some people recommend a deload when you start to feel joint pain which is kind of what I was leaning toward but wanted other recommendations
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    Originally Posted by BoBSMVW View Post
    Some people recommend a deload when you start to feel joint pain which is kind of what I was leaning toward but wanted other recommendations

    Would take a few days to post video?

    Haha that’s my reply is within your quote. Sorry
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    Hummmm....I have never heard of anyone tell someone to take a de-load if they have joint pain...when my knees started to feel pain, I set up an appointment with my VA doc and then we did X-rays and MRI's....Mine joint pain is due to Arthritis. Ya might want to see a doctor about your JOINT pain...might be serious, yet may not be...but why take that chance?
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    Hummmm....I have never heard of anyone tell someone to take a de-load if they have joint pain...when my knees started to feel pain, I set up an appointment with my VA doc and then we did X-rays and MRI's....Mine joint pain is due to Arthritis. Ya might want to see a doctor about your JOINT pain...might be serious, yet may not be...but why take that chance?
    If I have arthritis at 20 that would suck
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    Originally Posted by BoBSMVW View Post
    If I have arthritis at 20 that would suck
    It can happen...

    My step-daughter has Arthritis in her hip...she's had it since she was 5...she's 26 now...
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    Originally Posted by Squid24 View Post
    It can happen...

    My step-daughter has Arthritis in her hip...she's had it since she was 5...she's 26 now...
    Did you do anything different with your lifting when you found out you had it?
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    Originally Posted by BoBSMVW View Post
    Did you do anything different with your lifting when you found out you had it?
    Less sets, reps, and weight for me...no more 325 squats for me
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